Capello quits

[pennywisealfie]

ffs, this takes the cake. Capello is a shit coach. riiiiiight.

How many coaches do you know that have won league titles with 4 different clubs?
How many coaches do you know have won a title in Italy (when it was the best league in the world) and Spain?
How many coaches do you know that have won the Champions League?
How many coaches do you know that have gone to a team outside of the big teams (Juventus, Inter, Milan) and take that team (Roma) to a championship?

The guy has won 9 League titles.

The guy coached the early 90s milan side, widely considered to be in the top 3 all time best club sides, some would even say the greatest.

ffs, England should have bowed down to the man, but they f**ked with him, now hes off to go dominate elsewhere.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

What has he done recently.

The man managed Juventus during their cheating era then managed to win a title with the richest team on the planet at the time (Real). Big deal.

Then he's gone and done absolutely nothing in 5 years with an England team that while it may not have been world beaters had enough talent to do far better than it did while he was in charge.

I'm quietly confident England will do loads better than expected this year now that he's f**ked off.

:lol:

Where do I start with you, a typical deluded English fan who's ignorance knows no bounds.

Capello has won seven Serie A titles at three separate clubs, two Spanish titles in two seasons a decade apart, four Italian cups, a UEFA Super Cup, and a Champions League. And not just any CL: the most dominant single performance most have seen in European competition against the highest quality opponents. (I wouldn't expect you to even know what I am talking about as you were probably still in your nappies).

People have often accused him of playing negative, defensive football, but I believe he often played a three man attack (Raul, Suker, Mijatovic) in his first stint at Real Madrid. At Roma he played three man attack (Montella/Delvecchio, Totti, Batigol) AND a three man defense. His teams may not have always played fantastic football but they often did, which of course gets overlooked because he's Italian and automatically noted as a defensive coach. Yes he's had good players at his disposal but so have many great coaches.

Anyway, I think Capello did poorly with England. They did well to get results in qualifying, but when it came to the WC2010 they were terrible. Part of this was due to Capello's selections, which of course he must take the blame for, but part of it was also due to an incompetent FA (as shown in recent days) and the fact that many simply fail to grasp: England just aren't that good and most of their "quality" players have done absolutely nothing for their country. They don't have the mentality it takes to succeed in International football and have never performed for their country regardless of the manager. The likes of Lampard, Ferdinand and Terry are great examples.

Ultimately, maybe Capello's management style is just not suited to a national side. But the rubbish coming out of the UK press at the moment (and ignorant fans like you) is just so predictable. He went on holiday at Christmas time, he speaks Italian, he can't speak English properly, England need a English manager etc. etc. They accuse him of not caring, yet this is the same man who missed his own son's wedding for a f**king friendly game.

The LOL's from England are summed up perfectly in this Tweet by Henry Winter (Daily Telegraph Football Correspondent):

"No manager, no captain but strange feeling of renewed belief in #eng. Still can't take pens. Still not in Spain/Ger class. Whiff of hope tho". https://twitter.com/#!/henrywinter/s...40272911527936

So your national team has no manager and no captain just four months out from a major European tournament, you've lost one of the world's most successful coaches and there is "renewed belief". FMD.

Again, the problem with England has always been the same. They are just not that good.

 

[Big Sam]

The LOL's from England are summed up perfectly in this Tweet by Henry Winter (Daily Telegraph Football Correspondent):

"No manager, no captain but strange feeling of renewed belief in #eng. Still can't take pens. Still not in Spain/Ger class. Whiff of hope tho". https://twitter.com/#!/henrywinter/s...40272911527936

So your national team has no manager and no captain just four months out from a major European tournament, you've lost one of the world's most successful coaches and there is "renewed belief". FMD.

Ever heard of sarcasm? Winter uses it a fair bit in his columns.

I agree completely though with your assessment of Capello and the English football public's attitude towards him. That people like BunniesMan think England will do better at Euro without him than with him is laughable.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

What's Capello done or What's Jose Mourinho done he hasn't even win the CL.

Not sure which was worse from BunniesDerp :lol:

What Capello did with Roma which iirc may have been his first season in charge when they won the league was also the season after Lazio won which would make it a bit more special.

To be fair though the England team are average at best and are also primma donna spoiled brats. They're basically a less talented version of the French.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

What Capello did with Roma which iirc may have been his first season in charge when they won the league was also the season after Lazio won which would make it a bit more special.

He won the title with Roma in his second season. First season in charge we finished 6th and he was widely criticised. Second season we signed Batistuta, Emerson and Walter Samuel and he won the league.

To be fair though the England team are average at best and are also primma donna spoiled brats. They're basically a less talented version of the French.

Spot on.

Big Sam, there was nothing sarcastic about that Winter tweet. Nothing at all. Simply another in the long line of completely deluded UK media types.

 

[Red Bear]

England were looking good 6 months out from WC2010, but then a combo of John Terry being a merkin and injuries killed them off a bit.

 

[BunniesMan]

I agree with Winter. To quote those famous words: "Our long national nightmare is over".

One of the many reasons Capello was awful in the job: he never even bothered to learn English. I read he knew 30 words. Merkin.

 

[skeepe]

I agree with Winter. To quote those famous words: "Our long national nightmare is over".

One of the many reasons Capello was awful in the job: he never even bothered to learn English. I read he knew 30 words. Merkin.

Your honestly don't know anything about anything do you?

You're an intellectual black hole. People actually get dumber just from being in your general vicinity.

I've got absolutely no idea why people think it will be suddenly better under an English manager. How many English managers currently active have achieved as much as Capello has?

As mentioned in this thread, the biggest problem is the English public and press as a whole seem to think English players are far better than they are. Take the recent friendly with world champions Spain, a game in which England played quite well and ended in a well deserved draw. The English press reacted to that like England had lost 5-0, and continued attacking Capello mercilessly for it despite the reality being that a draw was a good result for a team realistically outmatched in every position.

All people like BM have proven is that they believe whatever the red tops tell them to. And that's a scary thought indeed.

 

[anjado]

Your honestly don't know anything about anything do you?

You're an intellectual black hole. People actually get dumber just from being in your general vicinity.

I've got absolutely no idea why people think it will be suddenly better under an English manager. How many English managers currently active have achieved as much as Capello has?

As mentioned in this thread, the biggest problem is the English public and press as a whole seem to think English players are far better than they are. Take the recent friendly with world champions Spain, a game in which England played quite well and ended in a well deserved draw. The English press reacted to that like England had lost 5-0, and continued attacking Capello mercilessly for it despite the reality being that a draw was a good result for a team realistically outmatched in every position.

All people like BM have proven is that they believe whatever the red tops tell them to. And that's a scary thought indeed.

England actually won that game 1-0 and yes the biggest thing holding back the English side is the press. They are delusional and basically pick holes in anyone the only good thing about Redknapp's appointment is that the press love him. So when he fails everyone will see what morons they are.

It will end in a similar way to how Newcastle fans always wanted Alan Shearer to take over as manager they did and they didn't win a game and ended up relegated.

Also Capello isn't blameless at the world cup England played the worst football i have ever seen them play in international competition he picked completely the wrong squad tried to bring players out of retirement who didn't want to play for England. He played 4-4-2 when no one else in modern football plays this formation.

He fell for the same cramming the 11 best players into the starting XI that Sven fell for i am sure again we will be trying to fit Lampard and Gerrard into some formation again rather than having the balls to pick one over the other.

He failed to pick a defensive midfielder instead using Gareth Barry in that position he really failed in many ways.

I actually think they should pick an Englishman but i have always been a believer that the national team coach should be from the same country as the players. Even if they candidates are poor it still should be your countries best versus another countries.

Hopefully the next manager will get rid of the old guard barring Ashley Cole since he is the only decent left back in England.

England need to find a manager who will pick a team with a modern formation and not just cram the 11 best players into the starting line up and they need someone with balls to completely stand up to the press Capello did but with completely the wrong issue.

 

[whall15]

'Arry will be found out at international level.

Lets look at the trophies he has won as a manager.

The equivalent to the League One. Wow
The equivalent to the Johnstones Paint Trophy. Wow
The Intertoto Cup. Amazing.
The equivalent to the Championship. Incredible.
One, FA Cup. Actually deserving of credit.

 

[WireMan]

England actually won that game 1-0 and yes the biggest thing holding back the English side is the press. They are delusional and basically pick holes in anyone the only good thing about Redknapp's appointment is that the press love him. So when he fails everyone will see what morons they are.

It will end in a similar way to how Newcastle fans always wanted Alan Shearer to take over as manager they did and they didn't win a game and ended up relegated.

Also Capello isn't blameless at the world cup England played the worst football i have ever seen them play in international competition he picked completely the wrong squad tried to bring players out of retirement who didn't want to play for England. He played 4-4-2 when no one else in modern football plays this formation.

He fell for the same cramming the 11 best players into the starting XI that Sven fell for i am sure again we will be trying to fit Lampard and Gerrard into some formation again rather than having the balls to pick one over the other.

He failed to pick a defensive midfielder instead using Gareth Barry in that position he really failed in many ways.

I actually think they should pick an Englishman but i have always been a believer that the national team coach should be from the same country as the players. Even if they candidates are poor it still should be your countries best versus another countries.

Hopefully the next manager will get rid of the old guard barring Ashley Cole since he is the only decent left back in England.

England need to find a manager who will pick a team with a modern formation and not just cram the 11 best players into the starting line up and they need someone with balls to completely stand up to the press Capello did but with completely the wrong issue.

I agree with all of that.

He did play rubbish football in the WC but was very unlucky vs Germany. It the game went to 2-2, which it should of, we would not of had our centre backs upfront and Barry chasing back vs Ozil. It would of been solid and England could of easily gone onto win as they were right on top at that point in the game.

We need a manger who can't read, who the media love and will pick a team besed on who is best for the team, not who the papers think we should be playing.

:lol:

Where do I start with you, a typical deluded English fan who's ignorance knows no bounds.

Is Bunniesman English? The Englsih fans on here are saying he is a good manager but some of his decisions were poor. He didn't do as bad as the media make out (like what the media says is gospel or something and everyone agrees with them).

I thought BM is an Aussie? So is in fact a typical deluded Australian fan. ;-)

People have often accused him of playing negative, defensive football, but I believe he often played a three man attack (Raul, Suker, Mijatovic) in his first stint at Real Madrid. At Roma he played three man attack (Montella/Delvecchio, Totti, Batigol) AND a three man defense. His teams may not have always played fantastic football but they often did, which of course gets overlooked because he's Italian and automatically noted as a defensive coach. Yes he's had good players at his disposal but so have many great coaches.

Anyway, I think Capello did poorly with England. They did well to get results in qualifying, but when it came to the WC2010 they were terrible. Part of this was due to Capello's selections, which of course he must take the blame for, but part of it was also due to an incompetent FA (as shown in recent days) and the fact that many simply fail to grasp: England just aren't that good and most of their "quality" players have done absolutely nothing for their country. They don't have the mentality it takes to succeed in International football and have never performed for their country regardless of the manager. The likes of Lampard, Ferdinand and Terry are great examples.

Ultimately, maybe Capello's management style is just not suited to a national side. But the rubbish coming out of the UK press at the moment (and ignorant fans like you) is just so predictable. He went on holiday at Christmas time, he speaks Italian, he can't speak English properly, England need a English manager etc. etc. They accuse him of not caring, yet this is the same man who missed his own son's wedding for a f**king friendly game.

So he was good for Euro club sides but not good for the national team of England?

Do you not think that might explain why people are not unhappy to see him go? Its all well and good winning the league with Roma, but who do you think in England really gives a flying one about that?

'Arry will be found out at international level.

Lets look at the trophies he has won as a manager.

The equivalent to the League One. Wow
The equivalent to the Johnstones Paint Trophy. Wow
The Intertoto Cup. Amazing.
The equivalent to the Championship. Incredible.
One, FA Cup. Actually deserving of credit.

I think he is having a purple patch now, but is failry limited as a top coach. Not sure what else you were expecting though? He was hardly going to win the league with Pompey was he?
However that is not the most important thing about an international manager. Keeping the presure of the players is a good start.

It would be funny if he got the job and picked Bent, Defoe or Crouch though, after selling two for not been good enough and not picking the other for the same reason.

 

[boxhead]

'Arry will be found out at international level.

Lets look at the trophies he has won as a manager.

The equivalent to the League One. Wow
The equivalent to the Johnstones Paint Trophy. Wow
The Intertoto Cup. Amazing.
The equivalent to the Championship. Incredible.
One, FA Cup. Actually deserving of credit.

I think someone is a bit irritated that the manager they labelled the best in the competition before the season started is below a team that has spent about a tenth of what Chelsea have to be competitive. ;-)

 

[anjado]

I agree with all of that.

He did play rubbish football in the WC but was very unlucky vs Germany. It the game went to 2-2, which it should of, we would not of had our centre backs upfront and Barry chasing back vs Ozil. It would of been solid and England could of easily gone onto win as they were right on top at that point in the game.

We need a manger who can't read, who the media love and will pick a team besed on who is best for the team, not who the papers think we should be playing.


I disagree completely, Germany completely outplayed us and they could of easily been 2-3 goals up before the Lampard goal. Even if it was brought back to 2-2 i don't think it would of made a difference Gareth Barry isn't a defensive midfielder he doesn't tackle. Scott Parker should of been in the team he was playing as well back then as he is now, but was overlooked completely despite being England's most impressive player in training camp before the world cup.

I think if England go with a starting line up like this.

----------------Hart----------------

Richards----Ferdinand-----Lescott----Cole

--------Parker----------Wilshere--------

Walcott------Cleverley----------------Johnson

--------------Rooney---------------

i think this is a decent side with youth and experience and could have a decent tournament with Sturridge in for Rooney with his suspension and maybe Oxlade-Chamberlain or Young in for Cleverley depending how fit he is. Unfortunately Lampard and Gerrard will be in there somewhere Walcott will be dropped for James Milner or something and England will be back to square one.

 

[boxhead]

The infamous Bunniesman back-step. I'm surprised he hasn't gone off the edge of the map yet.

 

[nöyd]

...and I'm glad my 2nd favourite national team now doesn't have the worst national coach in the world.

'kin hell you have a second favourite national team?

that's like saying you support the NSW origin team and your second favourite team is Queensland

ffs

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

So Capello who has trophies out of the arse is worse than whoever manages Tahiti?

Hybrid bodied that genius and he still yaps

 

[BunniesMan]

I'm Australian and my ancestors are English. Obviously Australia is my #1 team but I have to go for someone in Euros and that's obviously England.

BTW a part time jail dodging-unable to write/read/spell English 'Arry is better than a fulltime unable to speak English Fabio.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

id be the same as you bunniesman. see, for years australia didnt do anything bu break everyones hearts every 4 years so you had to go for the place your parents were born.
now its a bit different.

id rather arry stayed where he is tbh..

as for england manager. what about Guus? has he got a gig at the moment?