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Centre options 2006

BeenThere

Juniors
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978
Ok kids, sit back, clear your minds and think for a little bit. Where and how has Nigel made his mark in this game. That is right as a centre who can run angles like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can hit a hole like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can get over the line from 20 out 90% of the time (provided the work is done on the inside of him). Is he creative? -- no, can he pass the sublime pass? -- no, can he kick -- yes (cast your mind back to earlier in the year when he became kick happy -- woeful, can he kick in general play as either an attacking or defensive option? -- no. Is he a great centre -- yes (provided the work is done on the inside of him), is he a 5/8 -- no. Here endeth lesson number one.

Lesson number two -- are you guilty of raper think? It goes something like this -- our backline has done sh*t all, all year. Manly, let's throw Nige in to 5/8 cause dykes is injured -- hey sh*t we won by a bucketload, must be my master stroke (doesn't matter that it was an alignment of the moon and stars that meant that even my daughter would have looked good playing 5/8 against Manly). Fast forward one week -- Dykes is back, nige to the centres, we lose. Can't be crappy coaching, must be dykes fault. Fast forward one week -- drop dykes, nige to 5/8 -- lost again but it couldn't be the result of crappy coaching -- the masterplan will work one day. Lesson two endeth.

Who would I have as 5/8 -- doesn't matter -- read my earlier posts throughout the year. Until something else changes you could have Superman, Spiderman, Flash Gordon, The Incredible Hulk, Inspector Gadget and Luke Covell as your backline and they will all look like sh*t.

Lesson Three -- we will now have a barrage of 'sour grapes' posters who do not like the truth and therefore try and bolster their arguments by saying I am biased, negative, pushing a barrow, whatever. But you know what, I have more PROVEN football knowledge in my arse than they have in their entire collective infantile excuses they call brains.
 

Snoop Shark

First Grade
Messages
9,025
Oh and on the topics of centres id have(assuming nige is 5/8)

3. Scott
4. Moke

Both young guns ready to explode on the scene!!!!!!
 

BeenThere

Juniors
Messages
978
Interesting the wraps on Moke. From what I know -- had a gun year at Endeavour. Has found it hard to crack a spot at the roosters. Across to the Sharks where . . . . well read my post above.
 

imasharkie

Coach
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10,021
BeenThere said:
Ok kids, sit back, clear your minds and think for a little bit. Where and how has Nigel made his mark in this game. That is right as a centre who can run angles like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can hit a hole like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can get over the line from 20 out 90% of the time (provided the work is done on the inside of him). Is he creative? -- no, can he pass the sublime pass? -- no, can he kick -- yes (cast your mind back to earlier in the year when he became kick happy -- woeful, can he kick in general play as either an attacking or defensive option? -- no. Is he a great centre -- yes (provided the work is done on the inside of him), is he a 5/8 -- no. Here endeth lesson number one.

Lesson number two -- are you guilty of raper think? It goes something like this -- our backline has done sh*t all, all year. Manly, let's throw Nige in to 5/8 cause dykes is injured -- hey sh*t we won by a bucketload, must be my master stroke (doesn't matter that it was an alignment of the moon and stars that meant that even my daughter would have looked good playing 5/8 against Manly). Fast forward one week -- Dykes is back, nige to the centres, we lose. Can't be crappy coaching, must be dykes fault. Fast forward one week -- drop dykes, nige to 5/8 -- lost again but it couldn't be the result of crappy coaching -- the masterplan will work one day. Lesson two endeth.

Who would I have as 5/8 -- doesn't matter -- read my earlier posts throughout the year. Until something else changes you could have Superman, Spiderman, Flash Gordon, The Incredible Hulk, Inspector Gadget and Luke Covell as your backline and they will all look like sh*t.

Lesson Three -- we will now have a barrage of 'sour grapes' posters who do not like the truth and therefore try and bolster their arguments by saying I am biased, negative, pushing a barrow, whatever. But you know what, I have more PROVEN football knowledge in my arse than they have in their entire collective infantile excuses they call brains.

I believe you have bias towards a certain player BUT you are spot on about Vagana being a 5'8 BT....he ain't. The best 5/8 in the club has been shafted just like the best fullback.
 

Munky

Coach
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12,226
Pommeroy is wasted as a centre.

He doesn't have the speed or defence to be a top line three-quarter.

However as a mobile backrower he will be great for you, he has a favourite defensive play in which he wraps up the ball carrier and throws them to the ground visciously. He did this against guys like Adam McDougall and Watmough.

However he could defend at 5/8th if you wanted while Vagana went to centre.
 

Surely

Post Whore
Messages
101,888
Thanks for all the lessons BT, I've learnt a lot, we didn't need dykes all along because we have a f**ked coach.
 

The Shire

Juniors
Messages
474
must keep scott in the centres

pomeroy is a forward

moke unsure dont know much about him, except he has a cool name

imagen the havoc vagana and albert would reek if they were on the same side of the field
 

Thomo.

First Grade
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5,328
thanks munky.

vags at 5/8, pommeroy as a second rower. but the coach might want greg bird as 5/8???? he seems to rate bird
 

morri (cWo)

First Grade
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6,030
1. Simmons
2. Albert
3. Scott
4. Moke
5. Covell
6. Vagana
7. Kimmorley

or...

1. Simmons
2. Albert
3. Vagana
4. Moke
5. Scott
6. Covell
7. Kimmorley
 

Alan Shore

First Grade
Messages
9,390
With no Peachey anymore, we need a second playmaker - hence a genuine 5/8th, not a stop gap like Vagana. BT has expressed some good reasons and one should note that Nigel isn't up to that sort of hard defensive work - he really didn't do a great deal in attack in the semi - but that could be fixed by changing the defensive pattern. Nevertheless Vagana has no kicking game and I for one wouldn't want to leave everything to Noddy there....even Hilder kicks better than him.
 

Thomo.

First Grade
Messages
5,328
BT does make a point there, but who would go at 5/8 maybe. what about tevita latu...has he got 5/8 experience. i heard he can kick..is that true! its a possibility...
 

Macca

Coach
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18,399
That's funny, I didn't know there were varying levels of making a point.

So who will be at 5/8th Reefy?
 

imasharkie

Coach
Messages
10,021
Munky said:
Pommeroy is wasted as a centre.

He doesn't have the speed or defence to be a top line three-quarter.

However as a mobile backrower he will be great for you, he has a favourite defensive play in which he wraps up the ball carrier and throws them to the ground visciously. He did this against guys like Adam McDougall and Watmough.

However he could defend at 5/8th if you wanted while Vagana went to centre.

IMO Bailey if he has to be inthe team should play the first 20 mins and then bring on Pommeroy. Bailey could return for the last 10 mins which is normally a time that the sharks defence dies. I'll give Bailey one thing he is a good defender and would do plenty of defence for the time periods he will be on the field. As long as he had strict instructions to stay out of the back line and he need only run the ball in attack close to the ruck and would only need to have 10 hit ups in his 30 miutes on the field.
 

nogigtoobig

Juniors
Messages
178
imasharkie said:
IMO Bailey if he has to be inthe team should play the first 20 mins and then bring on Pommeroy. Bailey could return for the last 10 mins which is normally a time that the sharks defence dies. I'll give Bailey one thing he is a good defender and would do plenty of defence for the time periods he will be on the field. As long as he had strict instructions to stay out of the back line and he need only run the ball in attack close to the ruck and would only need to have 10 hit ups in his 30 miutes on the field.

Could work ims Bailey / Pomery might put the spark back in him , playing 80min has created a menotenis style of pl in him.
 

sharkadelic

Juniors
Messages
1,777
BeenThere said:
Ok kids, sit back, clear your minds and think for a little bit. Where and how has Nigel made his mark in this game. That is right as a centre who can run angles like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can hit a hole like no one else (provided the work is done on the inside of him), as a centre who can get over the line from 20 out 90% of the time (provided the work is done on the inside of him). Is he creative? -- no, can he pass the sublime pass? -- no, can he kick -- yes (cast your mind back to earlier in the year when he became kick happy -- woeful, can he kick in general play as either an attacking or defensive option? -- no. Is he a great centre -- yes (provided the work is done on the inside of him), is he a 5/8 -- no. Here endeth lesson number one.

Lesson number two -- are you guilty of raper think? It goes something like this -- our backline has done sh*t all, all year. Manly, let's throw Nige in to 5/8 cause dykes is injured -- hey sh*t we won by a bucketload, must be my master stroke (doesn't matter that it was an alignment of the moon and stars that meant that even my daughter would have looked good playing 5/8 against Manly). Fast forward one week -- Dykes is back, nige to the centres, we lose. Can't be crappy coaching, must be dykes fault. Fast forward one week -- drop dykes, nige to 5/8 -- lost again but it couldn't be the result of crappy coaching -- the masterplan will work one day. Lesson two endeth.

Who would I have as 5/8 -- doesn't matter -- read my earlier posts throughout the year. Until something else changes you could have Superman, Spiderman, Flash Gordon, The Incredible Hulk, Inspector Gadget and Luke Covell as your backline and they will all look like sh*t.

Lesson Three -- we will now have a barrage of 'sour grapes' posters who do not like the truth and therefore try and bolster their arguments by saying I am biased, negative, pushing a barrow, whatever. But you know what, I have more PROVEN football knowledge in my arse than they have in their entire collective infantile excuses they call brains.

I actually like the look of that backline.... Can we set that up? And Maybe get Batman on the bench instead of Greg Bird too....:)
 

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