Changes to the NRL Video Bunker in 2017

[Tommy Smith]

Tony Archer is fake news.

 

[Diesel]

Hawkeye. What would they use that for? To determine if the ball landed on the line or not?

 

[LineBall]

It's a step in the right direction. Ultimately I would love to see it limited to only checking the grounding, or a player going into touch in the act of scoring a try. Having it used to penalise players for something that can go on report opens a can of worms with regards to consistency, and only encourages diving.

 

[Valheru]

Five errors would be in relation to actual decisions that defied the laws of the game to be made.

That's a lot different from ones where it comes down to decisions made on the current interpretation of the rules. Doesn't mean they were good decisions, but they weren't wrong according to the rules of the time.

I hope that makes sense.

That is just completely wrong.

There were many a decision made last year that were just completely wrong. Every man and his dog knew they were wrong but Archer comes out the next day and says it was right so they just put a tick next to the decision.

It is easy to claim you meet a high SLA when you are the one that determines success.

 

[forby]

Valheru - just because you or I think they were wrong doesn't mean by the letter of the law they were wrong. Also the video ref needs conclusive evidence to change decisions, so while we may all think that the decision was wrong, if you dont have definite proof you cant change it.

 

[Timmah]

That's the point I'm making - the rules are arguably shit but they were interpreted and the decision delivered based on them.

 

[simmo05]

No video ref intervention on 40/20s and lost ball in general play is good news - however I have no faith that this stance will last past round 5 or 6.

All it will take is a tight game and an aggressive captain like James Graham to get in a refs face and they'll ask the video ref to get involved.



Also lol at '5 errors'. 5 errors per game perhaps, but definitely not 5 all season

All it will take is gould, rabs and the usual 9 f@#kheads to complain about it all game every game

 

[Iafeta]

I genuinely lol'ed Tony, well played! Great humour.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I'd just like to take this opportunity to announce I've only masterbated 5 times in my life according to the tony archer system.

 

[myrrh ken]

FYI if you never take your hand off it, only counts as one...

 

[Valheru]

Valheru - just because you or I think they were wrong doesn't mean by the letter of the law they were wrong. Also the video ref needs conclusive evidence to change decisions, so while we may all think that the decision was wrong, if you dont have definite proof you cant change it.

My point is that Tony Archer is the sole arbitrator of whether a bunker decision is correct or incorrect and he is patting himself and his staff on the back for only having 5 decisions wrong all year.

On a number of occasions last year he refused to speak out against decisions that were clearly wrong and/or inconsistent with other decisions made in the same week or even the same game on some occasions. He pads his own stats.

 

[BestHookerRein]

Bunker starting the season strongly

 

[ek999]

I agreed with the call. No camera angle could show conclusively that it was short so you have to go with the on field call

 

[Knight76]

Hawkeye in league? Hell no, we have enough technology slowing the game down. Last night's try decision was enough.

If the referee calls a try on field and refers it to the bunker to check one part of the play, that should be the only thing they check. From memory the ref last night called a try on field but asked the vid ref to check whether there was a strip further down field. The bunker then proceeded to check that, and then all other aspects of the try including the grounding to finally give their decision.

Should have been a quick check of the strip, and award the try.

 

[thorson1987]

Hawkeye in league? Hell no, we have enough technology slowing the game down. Last night's try decision was enough.

If the referee calls a try on field and refers it to the bunker to check one part of the play, that should be the only thing they check. From memory the ref last night called a try on field but asked the vid ref to check whether there was a strip further down field. The bunker then proceeded to check that, and then all other aspects of the try including the grounding to finally give their decision.

Should have been a quick check of the strip, and award the try.

This.

So much this.

 

[Uncle Kraka]

Hawkeye in league? Hell no, we have enough technology slowing the game down. Last night's try decision was enough.

If the referee calls a try on field and refers it to the bunker to check one part of the play, that should be the only thing they check. From memory the ref last night called a try on field but asked the vid ref to check whether there was a strip further down field. The bunker then proceeded to check that, and then all other aspects of the try including the grounding to finally give their decision.

Should have been a quick check of the strip, and award the try.

The refs only say to check something for the sake of it. They know everything will be checked. If it's changed so the video refs can only check for what is asked, the on field refs will just ask them to check the entire play to cover their arse.

 

[Knight76]

Sure, but as I said above, the video ref should only be allowed to check the one aspect asked to check.

Wasn't there supposed to be captains challenges this year where the ref makes the decision on field, and the captain gets 1 challenge per half to use? Did that not apply in the all star game, or was this rule abandoned already?

 

[simmo05]

The refs only say to check something for the sake of it. They know everything will be checked. If it's changed so the video refs can only check for what is asked, the on field refs will just ask them to check the entire play to cover their arse.

Good make them ask then

 

[TheVelourFog]

This.

So much this.

Hawkeye in league? Hell no, we have enough technology slowing the game down. Last night's try decision was enough.

If the referee calls a try on field and refers it to the bunker to check one part of the play, that should be the only thing they check. From memory the ref last night called a try on field but asked the vid ref to check whether there was a strip further down field. The bunker then proceeded to check that, and then all other aspects of the try including the grounding to finally give their decision.

Should have been a quick check of the strip, and award the try.

completely disagree

if there is something blatant that the ref missed I'd rather it get pulled up

 

[Knight76]

completely disagree

if there is something blatant that the ref missed I'd rather it get pulled up

There is always going to be something the refs miss at some point, and decisions the vid ref gets wrong. Technology won't change that. Mistakes are going to happen whether you like it or not, even with all the technology supporting them.

We need to accept this, and move on.