Chris Grevsmuhl Released!

[DiegoNT]

Sammy didn't go to another NRL club, he asked for a release and played through the 2014 GF with a busted cheekbone, he's on a par with John Sattler, no points to be earned here by bagging Sammy.

Sam signed elsewhere a year out. Like grevsmuhl
Sam started that year in shocking form, it seemed like his head was elsewhere. Like grevsmuhl
Fans were calling for sam to leave early on as he wasn't putting in. Just like Grev.
It's an incredibly similar situation.

 

[southsport]

Sam signed elsewhere a year out. Like grevsmuhl
Sam started that year in shocking form, it seemed like his head was elsewhere. Like grevsmuhl
Fans were calling for sam to leave early on as he wasn't putting in. Just like Grev.
It's an incredibly similar situation.

Diego, if you are comparing Grevsmuhl to Sammy then you have seriously lost the plot.

There's two options with Grevsmuhl 1. He is completely f**cking useless or 2. Gus Gould told him to play badly so that he could get an early release and join the panthers. ;-)

 

[DiegoNT]

Diego, if you are comparing Grevsmuhl to Sammy then you have seriously lost the plot.

There's two options with Grevsmuhl 1. He is completely f**cking useless or 2. Gus Gould told him to play badly so that he could get an early release and join the panthers. ;-)

Not comparing the players. Comparing the situation.
Sam was shocking in the early rounds pf 2014.

 

[souths_pride]

News just in - we've apparently got Robert Jennings from the Panthers in return for letting Grevsmuhl join the immediately!

 

[souths_pride]

What if these percived poor attitudes and sooking is a result from Madge not wanting to retain them. Effectively forcing the hand of the player to sign elsewhere, which would lead to a drop off in performance and clearly a rise in sookery

That is probably why I think it would be best if the NRL stepped in and made a rule that you can't sign a contract with another club until you are into the last 6 months of your current deal. There is just too much at stake and I think it would be better for all parties concerned if we did things that way. If Michael Maguire didn't want to retain Grevsmuhl then he probably should have moved him on before the season started. As far as I am aware, we did make an effort to resign Grevsmuhl, its just we didn't offer him the sort of money that he was after.

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Reynolds and Goodwin have both been rumoured to have asked for immediate releases. But A guy like keary tries to negotiate a good contract for himself and he is unloyal. Publicly criticize a guy a like clark and he deserves it, try publicly criticize a burgess and you're the devil.

I don't think that anyone perceives Luke Keary as being disloyal. I think it is more a case of him holding the club to ransom by asking for exorbitant amounts of money when his performances clearly haven't warranted a pay rise; if he was playing well then I don't think anybody would have a problem with him getting a pay rise. I personally don't have a problem with players trying to earn as much as they can from the game. If clubs don't want to pay that amount for a player then they can always say no; the ball is in their court. I think anyone who think they would stay at a club when they can earn double elsewhere is kidding themselves.

I've had it with workers on my farm. Got a crew of fruit pickers from Vanuatu. The owner of the last farm they worked on warned me. These guys are lazy, they have attitude problems, can't handle the heat and work. Keep on them, keep pushing them or they'll do nothing.
On the first day i talked to their leader. He explained that they had problems getting paid, all their guys sent their money home and they were surviving of just rice. So i gave them a pig to slaughter. The next day they all arrived happy and chipper and put in the best days work I've seen from any group. They were polite and friendly and would do anything for them. The other farmer didn't respect them and they didn't respect him hence the difficulties. My relationship was so much better. They were such good workers that i had to force them to slow down. We continued that relationship, i gave them more pigs, always made sure they had cold drinks, looked after them. After the season finished they invited me over to Vanuatu and have told me they'll be back with more workers for me next season.
Just imagine if i believed the other farmer when he said they had attitude problems. Imagine if i kept pushing them and went down the asshole route. Imagine if i called them whinging sooks and why should they complain, I'm paying them.
You may think it's different to nrl footballers but it's not. They are human as well

I think it has to work both ways. What would you do if your workers were not performing well despite you showing the kindness and generosity? You would be asking serious questions about their performances and you may even decide to move them on, particularly if they begin to whinge.

With Maguire, I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people think he is some sort of loose cannon who suffers from Tourettes and screams at people for no reason. If he has yelled or had a go at Grevsmuhl it is probably because he hasn't been performing up to the standards required. I don't think Maguire is a sadistic lunatic who picks on players for no reason.

 

[Pommy]

Like how people turn on players who leave but they still love Sammy who did the same thing. Funny

What sat down and discussed with the club how he had been offered the chance to represent his country in a home World Cup a year in advance then play his heart out and drag the club to their first title in 40 odd years? Yeah totally the same thing.

 

[Pommy]

I've had it with workers on my farm. Got a crew of fruit pickers from Vanuatu. The owner of the last farm they worked on warned me. These guys are lazy, they have attitude problems, can't handle the heat and work. Keep on them, keep pushing them or they'll do nothing.
On the first day i talked to their leader. He explained that they had problems getting paid, all their guys sent their money home and they were surviving of just rice. So i gave them a pig to slaughter. The next day they all arrived happy and chipper and put in the best days work I've seen from any group. They were polite and friendly and would do anything for them. The other farmer didn't respect them and they didn't respect him hence the difficulties. My relationship was so much better. They were such good workers that i had to force them to slow down. We continued that relationship, i gave them more pigs, always made sure they had cold drinks, looked after them. After the season finished they invited me over to Vanuatu and have told me they'll be back with more workers for me next season.
Just imagine if i believed the other farmer when he said they had attitude problems. Imagine if i kept pushing them and went down the asshole route. Imagine if i called them whinging sooks and why should they complain, I'm paying them.
You may think it's different to nrl footballers but it's not. They are human as well

I don't know how people can't grasp this concept. In my own experiences in the military I've had officers who act like dictators power drunk from their commission and I've had officers who tried to encourage the lads to help them accomplish a goal. Guess which got the results required.

But yeah they get paid loads of money therefore not human.

 

[DiegoNT]

That is probably why I think it would be best if the NRL stepped in and made a rule that you can't sign a contract with another club until you are into the last 6 months of your current deal. There is just too much at stake and I think it would be better for all parties concerned if we did things that way. If Michael Maguire didn't want to retain Grevsmuhl then he probably should have moved him on before the season started. As far as I am aware, we did make an effort to resign Grevsmuhl, its just we didn't offer him the sort of money that he was after.

I don't think that anyone perceives Luke Keary as being disloyal. I think it is more a case of him holding the club to ransom by asking for exorbitant amounts of money when his performances clearly haven't warranted a pay rise; if he was playing well then I don't think anybody would have a problem with him getting a pay rise. I personally don't have a problem with players trying to earn as much as they can from the game. If clubs don't want to pay that amount for a player then they can always say no; the ball is in their court. I think anyone who think they would stay at a club when they can earn double elsewhere is kidding themselves.

With Maguire, I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people think he is some sort of loose cannon who suffers from Tourettes and screams at people for no reason. If he has yelled or had a go at Grevsmuhl it is probably because he hasn't been performing up to the standards required. I don't think Maguire is a sadistic lunatic who picks on players for no reason.

Why shouldn't keary try get as much as he can, wouldn't we all?

As for maguire, i don't think he is a sadastic lunatic, I'm sure some of his criticism would definitely be warranted. He is probably in a tough position where he can't criticize the burgii because of their close relationship to crowe, yet he when he criticizes others they get their noses out of joint. It would be a hard dressing room to control at the moment. I've mentioned before that maybe the players have lost respect for maguire and that might not entirely be the fault of maguire or even the players, but a combination of a lot of things going on within the whole organization

 

[alien]

What if these percived poor attitudes and sooking is a result from Madge not wanting to retain them. Effectively forcing the hand of the player to sign elsewhere, which would lead to a drop off in performance and clearly a rise in sookery

that's not always the case

 

[souths_pride]

Why shouldn't keary try get as much as he can, wouldn't we all?

As for maguire, i don't think he is a sadastic lunatic, I'm sure some of his criticism would definitely be warranted. He is probably in a tough position where he can't criticize the burgii because of their close relationship to crowe, yet he when he criticizes others they get their noses out of joint. It would be a hard dressing room to control at the moment. I've mentioned before that maybe the players have lost respect for maguire and that might not entirely be the fault of maguire or even the players, but a combination of a lot of things going on within the whole organization

I don't have a problem with Keary trying to make as much as he can. As I said before, if the club doesn't want to give him that much money then it doesn't have to; its nothing personal, its just business. However, I think if he wants the sort of money that he is asking then his performances have to warrant it and unfortunately they haven't been up to standard.

 

[DiegoNT]

I don't have a problem with Keary trying to make as much as he can. As I said before, if the club doesn't want to give him that much money then it doesn't have to; its nothing personal, its just business. However, I think if he wants the sort of money that he is asking then his performances have to warrant it and unfortunately they haven't been up to standard.

Yea i agree with you. Just some nutcases on here scream and shout about Kearys unloyalty because he dares to negotiate a deal

 

[Pommy]

Why shouldn't keary try get as much as he can, wouldn't we all?

As for maguire, i don't think he is a sadastic lunatic, I'm sure some of his criticism would definitely be warranted. He is probably in a tough position where he can't criticize the burgii because of their close relationship to crowe, yet he when he criticizes others they get their noses out of joint. It would be a hard dressing room to control at the moment. I've mentioned before that maybe the players have lost respect for maguire and that might not entirely be the fault of maguire or even the players, but a combination of a lot of things going on within the whole organization

I don't believe Madge can't criticise the Burgess brothers because of Crowe. To me that really is tabloid nonsense.
I'm not sure either Crowe or the brothers would be happy with that situation. There was talk of Keary being pissed off with Sam not speaking up for him reference last years performances but it had nothing to do with Sam he wasn't even in the code.

 

[Rabbits20]

News just in - we've apparently got Robert Jennings from the Panthers in return for letting Grevsmuhl join the immediately!

Thanks.

 

[foreverinourshadow]

oi r20 here is a cup that only the winners drink mate

 

[southsport]

Thanks.

News just in, Robert Jennings has a dislocated shoulder and is out for four weeks.

 

[alien]

News just in, Robert Jennings has a dislocated shoulder and is out for four weeks.

ohhh crap. the injury curse continues

 

[Pommy]

Is this all finalised yet?

 

[drago brelli]

See you Grevsmuhl. I am disgusted in his attitude. It is abhorrent.

Madge would have been having one on ones with them all not just Grevs.

They have to take criticism and toughen up.

Grevs can't catch a ball. Any work place there is discipline.

What a disgusting attitude from Grevs.

He didn't turn up to training the bloody sook. Wake up guys. These guys can't handle it. What massive sooks.

As for Keary he ain't worth 850k. No doubt Keary is sooking. I say show him the exit door the sook. He can't kick a ball Keary.


Anyone who doesn't want do our Jersey justice with their all can piss off.

Let's get real guys. I want you to fire up to Souths Pride. Thrown them out the window. Our Jersey means so much and they ain't even honoured to wear it.

Show Tyrrell the exit door too.

Let's get real guys.



Shadow is correct, we need a clean out and players with the will and heart to give their all. Put all the young ones in if they'll do their best.

I don't mind losing as long as their is effort and doing the best for our Jersey. That's a start.

Goodbye Grevsmuhl. Toughen up. Grevs has shown his true colours.

We all know Keary's true colours too. It'll all erupt too.

I'm on Madge's side. Onya Madge.

This is 'green tea' territory here from the wild man of Souths, r20.

 

[southsport]

Is this all finalised yet?

Nope, it's all just speculation atm.

 

[Rabbits20]

oi r20 here is a cup that only the winners drink mate

I'll take it.

I'm firing up. I can't stand the Merge.