Civinaceva picking up a concussed Farah off the ground

[LineBall]

I think you'll find it's the other way round. Because I disagreed with you, you claim that it's because I can't appreciate rugby league as a result of me never having played it competitively.

If you read the thread, my original response about playing the game was to stinkler, not you.

Also, you quoted me where I say you don't have to have played the game to love it, understand it or appreciate it - and you then you claim I said the opposite.

Lastly, you still haven't given any lucid argument as to why someone who has played the game wouldn't have a different perspective than someone who hasn't.

 

[Bobby DIGital]

Where is Fiji? That's in Queensland. Queensland's everywheeeeeeere.....

 

[firechild]

Also, you quoted me where I say you don't have to have played the game to love it, understand it or appreciate it - and you then you claim I said the opposite.

yet you think you can appreciate rugby league by watching it, just the same as someone who has played it.

Only in QLD.

 

[firechild]

Lastly, you still haven't given any lucid argument as to why someone who has played the game wouldn't have a different perspective than someone who hasn't.

Anyone who has played any competitive sport will know the difference between someone feigning injury and someone who is in some serious hurt. As I said, Farah dropped like a sack of shit and didn't make any attempt to regather the ball he'd dropped on his way down. That is not something a player does, especially not in an origin game.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Anyone who has played any competitive sport will know the difference between someone feigning injury and someone who is in some serious hurt. As I said, Farah dropped like a sack of shit and didn't make any attempt to regather the ball he'd dropped on his way down. That is not something a player does, especially not in an origin game.

You also said he didn't move at all, which I corrected you on, and you conveniently ignored. He was grabbing at Petero's legs, that's why he moved him.

 

[Patorick]

Eh, benefit of the doubt.

Lucky it didn't turn out worse.

 

[LineBall]

Only in QLD.

You really are thick.

Don't you see the difference in what you have again quoted me on?

Both players and non players of rugby league can appreciate the game. It's just that those that have played will have a different perspective and understanding to those that haven't.

 

[firechild]

No, you're shifting the goalposts to try to save face. Yes, you said someone that has not played rugby league can love and understand the game but you said they do not appreciate it like someone who has played the game. I disagree.

 

[LineBall]

No, you're shifting the goalposts to try to save face. Yes, you said someone that has not played rugby league can love and understand the game but you said they do not appreciate it like someone who has played the game. I disagree.

I know you disagree - hence our discussion.

You are welcome to your opinion, which seems to be that somebody who has only witnessed an event, will still have the same experience, perception and understanding of it as somebody who has been involved in the said event.

I've never played Grid Iron, Surfed, or driven an Formula 1 Car, but I'm sure my perception of what it would be like would be different to those guys who actually do, or have done those things.

 

[firechild]

I know you disagree - hence our discussion.

You are welcome to your opinion, which seems to be that somebody who has only witnessed an event, will still have the same experience, perception and understanding of it as somebody who has been involved in the said event.

I've never played Grid Iron, Surfed, or driven an Formula 1 Car, but I'm sure my perception of what it would be like would be different to those guys who actually do, or have done those things.

The thing is, the incident in question (moving an injured player who is in the way) is not something specific to rugby league. Anyone who has played competitive team sport would have a similar perception with respect to this incident. Would you care to explain how a rugby league player would percieve this any differently to someone who has played a different sport?

 

[Joker's Wild]

Its not his go

 

[LineBall]

The thing is, the incident in question (moving an injured player who is in the way) is not something specific to rugby league. Anyone who has played competitive team sport would have a similar perception with respect to this incident. Would you care to explain how a rugby league player would percieve this any differently to someone who has played a different sport?

Sure.

For example, a volleyball player would have very little understanding of the multiple collisions, the body contact, the toughness, and the single mindedness that a professional rugby league player would have. He would have little knowledges of the nuances of what goes on in the tackle to slow down the play the ball. The volleyball player would have no experience of the type of injuries rugby league players experience, and often continue on the field playing with. The volleyball player watching the game on TV would may think what Petero did was a bit harsh. The guy who has played rugby league would probably not bat an eye lid at him trying to get rid of Farah who was grabbing his leg at the time.

 

[firechild]

A rugby league player would also realise that when a player drops the ball in a tackle they try to regather as quickly as possible on the off chance it is ruled a knockback or it is missed entirely by the refs. If a player goes down and makes no attempt to grab the ball then it is fair to assume something's wrong.

 

[LineBall]

A rugby league player would also realise that when a player drops the ball in a tackle they try to regather as quickly as possible on the off chance it is ruled a knockback or it is missed entirely by the refs. If a player goes down and makes no attempt to grab the ball then it is fair to assume something's wrong.

How would you know what a rugby league player would do?

 

[DRAGONZ_RULE]

I wouldn't be surprised if Civoniceva apologised to Farah straight after he was up and about again .. he is a great man and I could never imagine him ever doing that intentionally to a knowingly-injured player.

The fact that Farah was concussed meant that his unfortunate actions could have led to pretty dire consequences, but luckily it didn't.


If we're talking grubby acts from last night, the only one that should be talked about is Brent Tate punching Gallen in the head during the tackle, and then after the fight started, punching Bird in the head when he was pinned to the ground.

 

[firechild]

It's not rocket science. I'm sure if someone like Dopey Taylor can work out what goes on then someone who watches the game can work it out as well. Would you suggest I am wrong?

 

[firechild]

I wouldn't be surprised if Civoniceva apologised to Farah straight after he was up and about again .. he is a great man and I could never imagine him ever doing that intentionally to a knowingly-injured player.

The fact that Farah was concussed meant that his unfortunate actions could have led to pretty dire consequences, but luckily it didn't.

Pretty much my point from my first post in this thread. Could have been worse but not even close to the Poore/Price incident as suggested by the OP. I have no doubt Petero meant no harm by doing it.

 

[LineBall]

It's not rocket science. I'm sure if someone like Dopey Taylor can work out what goes on then someone who watches the game can work it out as well. Would you suggest I am wrong?

Yes, I would suggest you are wrong.

Again, you equate watching rugby league and never having played, gives you the same perception of what happens on the field - to somebody who has played the game, and has previously experienced what has happened.

Both individuals will see the same thing, but their perception ( what it means to them ) will be different.

 

[firechild]

Yes, I would suggest you are wrong

Care to expand on that? Why would a player not attempt to retrieve a dropped ball?

 

[LineBall]

Care to expand on that? Why would a player not attempt to retrieve a dropped ball?

1. Player doesn't know where the ball has gone.

2. Player lets go of the ball deliberately as defender has hand on the ball and wants to win a sneaky penalty

3. As in Farah's case - he was belted so hard that he probably didn't know where the ball was.