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Clive Palmer is a merkin

NK Arsenal

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Clive has sent this letter out to all the GC United members.

Due to ongoing low attendances at Gold Coast United home games, the club has decided to open only the Western Stand at Skilled Park for our next home game against North Queensland Fury (8pm Saturday, October 31). This will have the effect of limiting the attendance to 5 000, and also requires the club to relocate members from other grandstands into the Western Stand.

All members (except for those already located in the Western Stand) have been assigned new seats to accommodate this arrangement. All members affected by this change have today been sent a letter in the mail with their new seating allocation, while members who already have Western Stand seats will remain unchanged.



To gain entry to Skilled Park for this game, you will need to collect a temporary ticket from the Gate B Box Office from 6pm on Saturday night. Please make sure you bring your membership card to the stadium as you will need to produce it in order to receive your temporary ticket/s. We will have an envelope with tickets for each primary account holder waiting for collection, and while we will process everyone as quickly as possible it would be advisable to arrive a little early to avoid the queues. Alternatively, you may also collect your temporary tickets from the Gold Coast United office (Ground Floor, 9 Ouyan St, Bundall) on Friday October 30 from 9am – 4pm.



Please note that as part of this new stadium arrangement, match tickets and memberships do not include free public transport to and from the game. There will be no special event bus or train services in operation however there is parking available near the stadium.



Make sure you retain your current membership card/s, as should this situation change your membership will automatically revert to your existing seats.



You will be sent further details to keep you updated with this situation for future home games.



Clive Palmer

Chairman & Owner

Gold Coast United

Surely the FFA are going to do something about this. How the hell can he get away with capping the crowd at 5k?

Tickets will be costing $42 for adults now and because of this merkin I honestly cant see a crowd of more than 2,000 turning up for the rest of the season, especially with transport costs now not included in ticket prices.

It seems to me that he is trying to make a profit out of running the club, something he will never achieve, and even Con has never tried to do this.

I seriously doubt that they willl be around next season and we will have a 10-team league with Melbourne Hearts coming in.
 

Ridders

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Sounds pretty messed up to me.

Jeez things have real gone downhill for them after their hot start to the season.
 

NK Arsenal

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Sounds pretty messed up to me.

Jeez things have real gone downhill for them after their hot start to the season.

I dare say the players would be pretty pissed off by this and will put in another sh*t performance. Who knows, maybe the Fury can reverse that 5-0 drubbing they received in round 2.

I wonder how long it will be till Culina heads of back to Europe..

how did you come across this letter ?

Somebody got sent it in the mail (All members of GCU got sent it), then he posted it on the 442 Australia forums which I read frequently.

It's been confirmed by both The World Game and 442 now.

I believe that Archie Fraser was on Fox Sports FC tonight talking about it. I haven't watched it yet but the replay is on at 11:30 and I'll be watching with interest.

Cheers
 
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skeepe

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Good to see the FFA did all the due diligence with this one.

Honestly, letting teams like this into the competition while they deny Canberra, it's a f**king joke.
 

Misanthrope

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Brilliant idea, Clive. Capping crowds at 5000 is the best possible way to boost crowds toward an average of 10,000. It's reminiscent of Cartman's 'You can't come' strategy where he bought a theme park and advertised that nobody was welcome. Then, he allowed a few people in at a time and created massive interest.

A stroke of brilliance from the fat man.

Here's hoping he has a stroke of another kind in the near future.
 

Twizzle

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Somebody got sent it in the mail (All members of GCU got sent it), then he posted it on the 442 Australia forums which I read frequently.

It's been confirmed by both The World Game and 442 now.

I believe that Archie Fraser was on Fox Sports FC tonight talking about it. I haven't watched it yet but the replay is on at 11:30 and I'll be watching with interest.

Cheers

thank you for sourcing, please make sure you source posts like this in future

for all we know it could have been a junk email

cheers
 

fish eel

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the ironic thing is, Palmer wants to save money on ground rental, yet they use his private jet.......
 
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good. the quicker we can get back to an 8 team league (which was working ffs) the better. Ive been saying it all along, probably a million times, we werent ready for expansion, we still arent ready for expansion.
 

Misanthrope

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good. the quicker we can get back to an 8 team league (which was working ffs) the better. Ive been saying it all along, probably a million times, we werent ready for expansion, we still arent ready for expansion.

The eight team league was losing attendance and ratings...
 

fish eel

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8 teams had run it's course.

It was becoming boring and bland, playing the same sides each week.

The league needed new blood and more games, which is what the new sides have given.

The playing standard has also improved with the new sides, as reflected by the quality of imports, marquee players and Australians who have returned from Europe.

Also, Nth Qld Fury IMO look like they are steadily building a good base.
 

Misanthrope

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I'd probably have introduced new Sydney and Melbourne teams before expanding into new frontiers, but I can understand the logic in moving to Gold Coast (a growth area with only one other professional team). North Queensland was a move I didn't understand, but they've done a good job and they're probably performing better than the more fancied GC United outfit in terms of winning over the locals despite poor on field showings.
 

Twizzle

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Maybe he shouldn't have spent so much on importing players, or like Fishy said, maybe commercial airlines could be a more viable option.

I dont think he has his priorities right.
 

fish eel

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Maybe he shouldn't have spent so much on importing players, or like Fishy said, maybe commercial airlines could be a more viable option.

I dont think he has his priorities right.

or maybe he shouldn't have signed the stadium deal if he didnt like it

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/ffa-considering-action/2009/10/27/1256405389241.html

When Palmer bought the license last year his focus was on assembling a star-studded side, believing that would be enough to drive crowds to a break-even average of 10,000 for Gold Coast's debut season. He signed off on an expensive rental agreement at Robina which costs him $140,000 every time the attendance nudges over 5000. Keeping crowds at 5000 or below saves the club $100,000 per game

I'll try and find it....Mick Cockerill wrote a piece in the herald before the first game basically saying GCU would get small crowds because their ticket prices were high and that they'd done nothing to develop any links with the grassroots
 

fish eel

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here it is. This is from august 12.


INSTANT hype, instant success. Week one delivered the goods for Gold Coast United, but now comes the hard part. Big names, big ambitions, and big personalities make a compelling case. But does anyone care?

On Saturday evening, Gold Coast host North Queensland Fury in their first A-League match at Robina. There are many reasons to hope for a decent crowd. In a nomadic pre-season, they played just twice at their own stadium, so there's the novelty factor. There's also the feelgood factor after their opening win in the derby against Brisbane Roar. And, of course, there is the Robbie Fowler factor.

The league's poster boy justified the hype last weekend and arrives on the Glitter Strip with a supporting cast that showed against Sydney FC that it might yet dish out a few slices of humble pie. Fowler versus Culina is a marketing dream and shouldn't be too hard to sell even at $29 a ticket. Should it?

Strangely, it seems it is. Gold Coast chairman Clive Palmer isn't exactly renowned for his modesty, but this time he's doing his best to hose down expectations. Big Clive reckons his team will do well to average gates of around 6000 to 7000 in their inaugural season. Say what?

Palmer claims that, on a per-capita basis, crowds of 7000 at Skilled Park would be as good as Melbourne Victory getting 120,000 to their games. It's hard to question a billionaire's mathematics, but those sums don't add up. If the Titans can average around 15,000 per game in the NRL, why can't GCU attract the same in the A-League? Instead, Palmer is aiming low - and he doesn't expect things to change much for the next few seasons.

Talk about an anticlimax. With a star-spangled squad, realistic title ambitions and the local media hanging off every word from Palmer and his quotable coach, Miron Bleiberg, there is a perfect storm gathering to get the turnstiles clicking. All that's needed is the value add. The membership drives, the coaching clinics, the community work. The club is on to it, right?

Maybe not. Perhaps Palmer's estimate is an admission of sorts. The word from HQ is that Gold Coast haven't been anywhere near as proactive as they should have been in building links with the grassroots.

Six thousand registered players in their immediate backyard and the same number again in northern NSW, which has the potential to become their catchment. Most of these people would have heard of the club by now, but not enough of them have heard from the club.

Just ask Sydney FC, who have only just realised that bling doesn't sell - at least in the long term. Only now are the Sky Blues seriously addressing the oversight, and hopefully they'll get a dividend when they also play their first home game of the season this weekend. As the Central Coast Mariners have demonstrated so admirably, proper clubs are built from the ground up.

Palmer is lucky. He can have it both ways - the fanfare, and the fans. He's got a perfect stadium, a brilliant team and a clever coach. My tip, for what it's worth, is that Gold Coast will win the title in their debut season. And they'll generate a torrent of publicity along the way. It would be a pity, then, if their fans were to be outnumbered by the empty seats, and the players were robbed of a crucial ingredient - atmosphere. The early signs are sobering - membership sales hovering around 2000, and no sign yet of an organised supporters group, though there is talk of the ''White Shoe Brigade'' coming out of the closet this weekend.

Gate takings won't register a blip on Palmer's bank balance, but crowds will help define his club. In a white-hot market soon to be joined by the AFL and perhaps Super 15 rugby, the mining magnate needs to put a stake in the ground.

That's where the real gold is. It's just a matter of digging deep enough

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/fo...1249756306764.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

so basically the guy signs a stadium deal that slugs him if the crowd goes over 5k, but only expects crowds of 7k. Then decides the stadium deal is a dud so caps crowds at 5k.

Go figure.
 

Glenn

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Not only is Clive shooting the GCU supporters and any hope of attracting new supporters, but his actions are also damaging to the public perception of the A-League as whole.
 

Iafeta

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Not only is Clive shooting the GCU supporters and any hope of attracting new supporters, but his actions are also damaging to the public perception of the A-League as whole.

Big time. The game doesn't need expansion, it needs consolidation of what it has. All club's should have to abide by a hierarchical chain of ... well... sanity. The club's should all have to abide by a common statement that they will not bring the game or it's image into disrepute, which is what this has done. He has made the A-League look like amateur hour. For a code that is trying to set itself up in Australia, and trying to really get on the back of what the Socceroos are achieving, its clown like this that can cause serious damage.
 

fish eel

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Big time. The game doesn't need expansion, it needs consolidation of what it has. All club's should have to abide by a hierarchical chain of ... well... sanity. The club's should all have to abide by a common statement that they will not bring the game or it's image into disrepute, which is what this has done. He has made the A-League look like amateur hour. For a code that is trying to set itself up in Australia, and trying to really get on the back of what the Socceroos are achieving, its clown like this that can cause serious damage.

I'd take Wellington ahead of GCU at the moment ;-)
 
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