Clubs should be compensated for "Gaz" like occurances

[Roosterphin1]

I dont usually feel sorry for the Dragons (ok I never do) but they have made future player decisions based on the premise that Gasnier was in the team. eg let Josh Morris go. Now they have been significantly impacted and should be compensated.

Heres a thought. Whilst it wont bring Josh Morris back to the club why cant the NRL introduce a "transfer fee" arrangement whereby if an overseas club or Yawnion wants to buy a League player they must pay a fee to the club, especially where a contract is broken. If it is at the end of a players contract then they can go on a free transfer.

Thoughts?

 

[Coaster]

Dragons agreed to the clause in the contract, it was a stupid decision and now they have to deal with it

 

[perverse]

agreed. dragons signed a sh*t contract, it's their own fault.

 

[Special K]

dragons should of written in a transfer fee with the clause he had

 

[joondalup_giant]

i think thats a good idea, but like Coaster said they agreed to it so really they have to suffer the consiquences

 

[ucantseeme]

If a player wants to defect then he probably wont care if his club is compensated. If there was a compo/transfer rule and the French RU club refused to pay, I doubt it would stop Gaz from signing.

 

[Ziggy the God]

As all contracts need to be lodged with the NRL, why don't they make a stipulation that they must contain transfer fees that are payable to the club, if the contract is broken?

If the overseas clubs want to buy them out, then pay for the privelege.

 

[smeghead]

Never should have come to this.

It happened because the NRL and in this case Dragons pandered to a guy trying to hold them over a barrell. Should have f**ked the ballchinnian off than and there.

 

[Eels Dude]

Agree with everyone so far. The clause shouldnt have been there in the first place. It's a bit of a dodgy act by Gasnier however the Dragons have to live with it.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

The clause was activated because 3rd party deals were not paid. Good luck trying to get a player to sign a contract where they are offered x amount, but the club or sponsor can elect not to pay the amount and there will be no breach of contract.

There was nothing wrong with the contract. Someone just failed to hold their end up of the bargain.

 

[Pierced Soul]

just failed to hold their end up of the bargain.

apparently it was gasnier who didnt do the work to get paid for the 3rd party deals

i'm not sure why league doenst ahve transfer fees, at elast between the NRL and SL

 

[Eels Dude]

apparently it was gasnier who didnt do the work to get paid for the 3rd party deals

i'm not sure why league doenst ahve transfer fees, at elast between the NRL and SL

I don't see why NRL clubs can't demand a transfer fee from the ESL. It's probably because when players head to the ESL they're either

a) off contract and therefore a transfer fee isn't necessary, or

b) the clubs have released the players on their own free will, to free up salary cap space. The Dragons didn't have to release Ryles, nor did Parramatta have to release Riddell. Therefore to demand a transfer when it was their choice is a bit stupid.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

apparently it was gasnier who didnt do the work to get paid for the 3rd party deals

i'm not sure why league doenst ahve transfer fees, at elast between the NRL and SL

He needed to make so many appearances on the footy show to earn his keep. That quota was not met. Who is to say it was Gasnier or channel 9's fault however?

He'd need to be asked to go on the show to meet that quota. Likewise he could decline appearances.

It's a deal that was heavily stacked in the broadcasters favour, obviously they had control over whether or not they should pay out the sum.

 

[perverse]

He needed to make so many appearances on the footy show to earn his keep. That quota was not met. Who is to say it was Gasnier or channel 9's fault however?

He'd need to be asked to go on the show to meet that quota. Likewise he could decline appearances.

It's a deal that was heavily stacked in the broadcasters favour, obviously they had control over whether or not they should pay out the sum.

sounds like a kirk reynoldson situation.

if that is the case then gaz is an idiot for expecting the money.

 

[ucantseeme]

I think the 3rd party deals were him bringing in new advertising revenue to Channel 9 and that revenue being paid to him as the businesses paying for it would be Dragons sponsors.

No way he'd get $1 million in bonuses for doing the occassional appearence on the Footy Show

 

[Eels Dude]

It also makes the Dragons idiots for including an escape clause in regards to payments not maid by them.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

It also makes the Dragons idiots for including an escape clause in regards to payments not maid by them.

Please tell me how any club could negotiate one without them if the sponsorship is conditional (which all sponsorship is). I think you'll find every player in the NRL with a 3rd party contract would have similar clauses.

Thats the problem with 3rd party sponsorship deals being built into playing contracts. The NRL should say you have a contract with your club. Now go and find sponsorship deals with anyone you want.

It would boost players salaries, give clubs more bargaining power and help players stay in our game. I don't see why external payments should count under the cap, it's a restriction of trade.

 

[Danish]

All those geniuses suggesting a transfer fee system, how do you propose the Dragons would enforce such a thing on a club that has no legal obligation to do so??

Transfer fees only work when kept in the same code, and for the most part only exist when that competition is the only of its kind (NFL, NBA, NHL etc). The obvious exception being soccer however this is still maintained inside the one sport and is also only successful as FIFA and the regional governing bodies agree to enforce it.

Why would the french rugby union bosses want to threaten their own clubs with being ousted from the comp when such a move would hurt their competition?

 

[_Johnsy]

Yeah it sucks, but only because we let Josh MORRIS go. If our dumb fugg of a CEO could negotiate a contract they way it should be, we would not be in this position. So as a club we have to cop it sweet.

 

[Danish]

Dragons fans should boo gasnier onto the field for the rest of the year TBH...


Stupid clause or no, you still have to be a right royal merkin to leave like that. And a coward considering he is going to be playing park rugby.