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Coach Flanno

Victoire

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He did the crime…did the time…now getting offered another opportunity.

if Matt Lodge and Russell Packer can get another shot. Why can’t this bloke?
For argument's sake: Lodge and Packer are just dumb front rowers and their crimes were off field. Flanagan is a head coach, meant to lead an organisation and inspire a team, and his crimes were directly related to that job?
 

dannyt

Coach
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For argument's sake: Lodge and Packer are just dumb front rowers and their crimes were off field. Flanagan is a head coach, meant to lead an organisation and inspire a team, and his crimes were directly related to that job?
You could argue that Flanagan's indiscretions were reprehensible and he should never be allowed to coach again.

You could also argue that he served the sentence handed down to him and he has been given the all-clear to coach.

I'm leaning towards the latter argument.
 

steerlerbab

Juniors
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He did the crime…did the time…now getting offered another opportunity.

if Matt Lodge and Russell Packer can get another shot. Why can’t this bloke?
Flanno did not do a crime! He broke some NRL rules. That is why he was deregistered from NRL coaching. Flanno was never charged under NSW or Australian law nor he appeared in court.

Russell Packer on the other hand was sentenced to two years jail and that was crime.

Matt Lodge was charged with felony misdemeanor and appeared in court but managed to avoid jail time.
 

R&WTILLIDIE

First Grade
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For argument's sake: Lodge and Packer are just dumb front rowers and their crimes were off field. Flanagan is a head coach, meant to lead an organisation and inspire a team, and his crimes were directly related to that job?
He inspired Cronulla to their first ever premiership…that’s pretty inspirational. he was stood down for a specific period of time. So after that time is up, does it mean he is not allowed to be hired again by anyone? No it doesn’t

If the NRL thought the crime was bad enough he would’ve been banned for life.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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Flanno did the time and will not want to go there again that is for sure. This is possibly his last chance as if he gets caught doing anything that he shouldn't do by the NRL, then that would definitely be the end of his career which I doubt he would want. No club will want a bar of him or the media.

I am waiting on LeagueInituative to post it....lol

Strange how he has not agreed to terms yet and they are publishing stuff saying it is a done deal. Are they not aware how dealings with Saints end? Nothing is assured until the guy is signed on the dotted line.
 

R&WTILLIDIE

First Grade
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Flanno did not do a crime! He broke some NRL rules. That is why he was deregistered from NRL coaching. Flanno was never charged under NSW or Australian law nor he appeared in court.

Russell Packer on the other hand was sentenced to two years jail and that was crime.

Matt Lodge was charged with felony misdemeanor and appeared in court but managed to avoid jail time.
“Broke the rules…did the time” doesn’t have the same ring as the old saying “did the crime…did the time”…

I know he didn’t commit a crime. It’s just a saying.

And yes, those other 2 thugs did much worse and were allowed to play again.

If the league saw what he did not as serious to strip Cronulla of their premiership then Flanno should be allowed to coach again too.
 

hewi

Bench
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NRL: Buzz Rothfield says while Shane Flanagan could be appointed Dragons coach, he won't compete for the role if Dragons are unsure.
After a five-year exile from the NRL head coaching ranks, Shane Flanagan is finally set to make his return, with the Dragons expected to offer the premiership winning mentor a three-year deal. But it won’t all be smooth sailing for Flanagan, and there are seven burning issues he must address if he wants success at St George Illawarra, writes MICHAEL CARAYANNIS and BRENT READ.
Shane Flanagan has vowed to keep Ben Hunt at halfback. Picture: Getty Images.

Shane Flanagan has vowed to keep Ben Hunt at halfback. Picture: Getty Images.
1. WHAT TO DO IN THE HALVES?
Flanagan is already on the record as saying that Ben Hunt will be his halfback next year. Rival clubs are already circling the Dragons skipper. If Hunt stays in the halves then it might be time to say goodbye to either Jayden Sullivan or Talatau Amone both who are on decent deals.
2. SUPPORT STAFF
Interim coach Ryan Carr and assistant Ben Woolf have 12 months left on their deals and are expected to remain at the club. St George and WIN have promised to invest in the football program which has long been neglected. Flanagan’s appointment means the club won’t rush in an experienced head of football but they may shift their focus into the development pathways.
Flanagan must work hard to address player unrest, and get the best out of Zac Lomax. Picture: Getty Images.

Flanagan must work hard to address player unrest, and get the best out of Zac Lomax. Picture: Getty Images.
3. PLAYERS AGITATING
Aside from Hunt there is massive unrest among a host of players including Zac Lomax, Jack Bird and Jaydn Su’A. Flanagan is close with Bird with the pair part of Cronulla’s 2016 premiership win so he should remain at the club now. Flanagan’s big task is getting the best out of Lomax and trying to get value for money on a contract which does not end until 2026.
4. LEARNING FROM HIS MISTAKES
This is Flanagan’s chance to show he has learnt from his failings off the field which brought about his demise at the Sharks. He has long craved a second chance in the NRL and this will be his final crack at a head coaching position. On the field in the past few years it has been hard to gauge exactly what the Dragons stand for. Former coach Anthony Griffin was supposed to bring a hard edge to a side but that failed. Flanagan’s best Cronulla sides were built on experience and grit.
Flanagan must draw from his premiership success, but also learn from his past mistakes. Picture: Colleen Petch.

Flanagan must draw from his premiership success, but also learn from his past mistakes. Picture: Colleen Petch.
5. THE 2025 HIT LIST
The Dragons have room to move under the salary cap in 2025 and Flanagan needs to quickly work out who he wants to target given players off contract at the end of 2024 will be free to sign with rivals from November 1. They will be on the market for a top-line prop and a quality hooker. Flanagan has the added advantage of having worked at the club and knowing everyone’s salary cap values.
6. DEALING WITH THE BOARD
Much has been made of the friction at board level but the pursuit of Flanagan has shown that the St George and WIN factions can work together for the common good. The boardroom shouldn‘t be Flanagan’s concern but there will be times no doubt when he may need to straddle the politics at play.
7. UNITING FANS
Dragons supporters are among the most passionate in the game. They also have no qualms venting their fury when things aren‘t going well, as Griffin and the players have discovered this season. Flanagan’s signature should unite the fan group and provided he can galvanise the supporters, he will have a powerful ally on his side.


My take is I’m happy with Liddle and they just gave him a two year extension, as for Sullivan and Amone I think Sullivan is far better and Amone might be taking a holiday In striped pyjamas.
 

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