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Coach Mick Potter set to punt on rookie Jacob Miller as Wests Tigers halfback

Joe's Magpies

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NEW Wests Tigers coach Mick Potter is prepared to pin his faith on a 20-year-old with just five NRL appearances to cure the team's halves conundrum.
Virtually overlooked for first grade despite leading the Tigers NYC feeder team to premiership glory last year, Jacob Miller now has the inside running to partner Benji Marshall in round one.
Having recovered from off-season groin surgery, Miller completed his first full training session yesterday as the Tigers' top-choice scrum base combination was revealed.
One of eight different halves who lined up alongside Marshall last year, Tim Moltzen is set to return to his favoured position of fullback.
After spending most of his career at No.6, experienced recruit Braith Anasta will start at lock.
That leaves Miller with a golden opportunity to prove his wares after the let-down of playing just 40 minutes at NRL level in 2012.

"He's a level-headed kid and he knows he needs to perform," Potter said yesterday.

"He also needs to be allowed to make a few mistakes, because young players will make mistakes. The main thing is that they learn from them and you can cope with that. He'll get a good run."
The coach also indicated Anasta - recently voted into the club's six-man leadership group - would provide direction for Miller, a former Roosters clubmate.
"Braith can provide some guidance for Jacob, his experience around the middle will be great for us," Potter said.
Unable to join ball work at yesterday's first hit-out of 2013 because of a bruised bone in his foot, Anasta agreed the time was ripe for him to shift from the halves.
"I can worry about my own job now and not having to lead the team around," the 30-year-old said.
"I had some success running off Todd Carney in the back row in 2010, and we've got similar players in Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah. They both play off the cuff and that's how I like to play as well.
"In the early and mid part of my career I definitely preferred five-eighth, but all that changed when I moved in 2010. I would have still been playing back row if Todd (Carney) had stayed at the Roosters. I only went back to five-eighth last year because there was no other option."
Anasta said he was "humbled" to join Aaron Woods, Sean Meaney, Chris Lawrence, Farah and Marshall in the leadership group just three months after his arrival.
The former Roosters skipper conceded his career was in a "comfort zone" at Bondi, where he enjoyed greater control over his training program and workload.
"It's been a bit of a wake-up call for me," Anasta said.
"Without even noticing you take things for granted.
"This is the hardest I've trained in a long, long time.
"Coming here I've had to earn my stripes and the respect of the other players.
"You do what you are told, there's no luxury of picking and choosing."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-tigers-halfback/story-e6freuy9-1226549168186

Sounds Promising. Hopefully Tedesco gets the fullback job and not Moltzen.
 

gronkathon

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I have been tipping Meaney to get a real crack at the number 1 jersey for a fe months now.

I honestly believe Moltzen will be our backup 7 in State Cup.
 
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Interesting article.

Hardly taking a punt on Miller. The only real choice and it sounds like he will get the chance to make some mistakes and establish himself - ie. 6-10 rounds or half a season or more.

Moltzen set to return to fullback. FFS. I can only imagine that's because of slow recovery for Tedesco. Cannot possibly be first choice fullback over Tedesco under a rational and sane coach.

Meaney, Lawrence and Woods in leadership group? Not three that spring to mind for me as CLUB leaders at this stage even though Woods is our pack leader to some extent.
 

Perth Tiger

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I haven't been one to bag Blair to much after last year but geez if the NZ vice captain can't even make the 6 man leadership group then there must be some issues.
 

Ron's_Mate

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I'm liking the sound of the Tigers under Potter. Particularly his being prepared to give Miller a good go at half, but also putting everyone on notice that they have to perform to earn their spot. It'll be interesting to see how Blair goes under this system.
 

madunit

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Potter is known for running a fairly tight system, which is what Blair worked well under with Bellamy. We can only hope he replicates that now that we've got the epic boots to fill of Ellis.

If Meaney is in the leadership group, then I'd prefer to see him as the first choice fullback over Moltzen, until Tedesco returns. Tedesco has to be first option, Meaney second.

Miller at makes sense, he has an awesome combination with Koroibete, and I think Potter stating Miller will be 7 means he's pencilled in Koroibete as one of the starting wingers.

Based on that article we look to be going with
1 - Moltzen (Tedesco when fit)
2 - Koroibete
3 - Lawrence
4 - Ayshford
5 - Utai/Tuqiri
6 - Marshall
7 - Miller
8 - Woods
9 - Farah
10 - Galloway
11 - Blair
12 - Fulton
13 - Anasta

Which isn't so bad, especially if Anasta is allowed to play without any playmaking responsibilities, I actually think that could see him becoming a surprisingly good buy.

It would also leave Fulton to play straight and not become a ball player. He's at his best running straight and hard, especially on angles.
 

Fordy20

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Interesting article.

Hardly taking a punt on Miller. The only real choice and it sounds like he will get the chance to make some mistakes and establish himself - ie. 6-10 rounds or half a season or more.

Moltzen set to return to fullback. FFS. I can only imagine that's because of slow recovery for Tedesco. Cannot possibly be first choice fullback over Tedesco under a rational and sane coach.

Meaney, Lawrence and Woods in leadership group? Not three that spring to mind for me as CLUB leaders at this stage even though Woods is our pack leader to some extent.

There is no quote in the article from Potter about who is going to be fullback, it's only speculation from Massoud that Moltzen will be going back fullback. With Meaney being part of the leadership group, you'd expect him to slot into the #1 jersey if Tedesco's recovery was taking longer than expected.

With Humble and Chisholm gone, Moltzen needs to be playing in the halves on a regular basis simply for depth.
 

Vic Mackey

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The only part about moltzen being is from massoud, no quotes at all.

On the nrl summertime it showed the team training. A backline move went from the half (couldn't tell who) down thw left to anasta, cutting out Lawrence, hitting the sweeper aka fullback (Meaney) who hit korobiete. The opposing defence included reddy and moltzen.

I know it's early and they'd be trying all sorts of things but to me it looked like the first choice left side v either the right side or a second choice combo.

With Meaney in the leadership group, good choice. Having the 6 most 'popular' players doesn't always work. I imagine it would be pretty intimidating for a bloke like luke brooks or Ava semaufagai to walk up to benji and discuss something they are having trouble with. Meaney would know all the fringe players a lot better and they'd feel more comfortable talking to him
 

Breathingfire

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Can someone explain to me how a guy (Meaney) with 9 first grade games to his name at the age of 26 who debuted two years ago and is yet to establish himself in the team can be in the leadership group?

Imagine being Lote or Blair etc and taking orders from some fringe utility who has played only a handful of games?!

Dumb!!!!
 
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Can someone explain to me how a guy (Meaney) with 9 first grade games to his name at the age of 26 who debuted two years ago and is yet to establish himself in the team can be in the leadership group?

Imagine being Lote or Blair etc and taking orders from some fringe utility who has played only a handful of games?!

Dumb!!!!

I reckon Meaney's role in the leadership group will be the link man. A link between reserve grade and first grade, also an example to others that you can make it and play a part. He will be the go to guy for the reserve graders. so really, it is not dumb.
 
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Potter is known for running a fairly tight system, which is what Blair worked well under with Bellamy. We can only hope he replicates that now that we've got the epic boots to fill of Ellis.

If Meaney is in the leadership group, then I'd prefer to see him as the first choice fullback over Moltzen, until Tedesco returns. Tedesco has to be first option, Meaney second.

Miller at makes sense, he has an awesome combination with Koroibete, and I think Potter stating Miller will be 7 means he's pencilled in Koroibete as one of the starting wingers.

Based on that article we look to be going with
1 - Moltzen (Tedesco when fit)
2 - Koroibete
3 - Lawrence
4 - Ayshford
5 - Utai/Tuqiri
6 - Marshall
7 - Miller
8 - Woods
9 - Farah
10 - Galloway
11 - Blair
12 - Fulton
13 - Anasta

Which isn't so bad, especially if Anasta is allowed to play without any playmaking responsibilities, I actually think that could see him becoming a surprisingly good buy.

It would also leave Fulton to play straight and not become a ball player. He's at his best running straight and hard, especially on angles.

Expect a bumper/break out season from Ben Murdoch Masila, it will be his time to shine.
 

innsaneink

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Can someone explain to me how a guy (Meaney) with 9 first grade games to his name at the age of 26 who debuted two years ago and is yet to establish himself in the team can be in the leadership group?

Imagine being Lote or Blair etc and taking orders from some fringe utility who has played only a handful of games?!

Dumb!!!!

I dont think they ''hand out orders''.

Pecking orders and cred in certain groups can look very very different from the outside compared to from within
 

Breathingfire

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I am not trolling...I was actually stumped and figured you guys support this mob and might have some idea as to why such a decision was made...I tend to agree with Bubbles and think it must be a "link man" type role...otherwise why the f**k would he be anywhere near the leadership group?! It must suck for him though...its like "you are the best of the never was" "all the never was' respect you a lot"
 
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Expect a bumper/break out season from Ben Murdoch Masila, it will be his time to shine.
I think a lot of guys are going to improve massively with Sheens gone - BMM, Lawrence, Miller, Blair, Ayshford chiefly. Benji should develop too. BMM needs to. Has made f**k all progress in three seasons with us.
 

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