Coaches have no impact during game day

[Shark62]

To increase their influence on a game, a coach should be able to inject himself into the game as a player for a 10 minute period like a power play. It would be the first time since the 90’s that Canberra had a decent half.

Wish I’d thought of that. Brilliant stuff!

 

[mave]

To increase their influence on a game, a coach should be able to inject himself into the game as a player for a 10 minute period like a power play. It would be the first time since the 90’s that Canberra had a decent half.

Ricky could then become the first coach to ruin his own playing career.
Brilliant.

 

[One Warrior]

Kearney has plenty of impact on game day, by buggering up how he uses his bench every single week.

 

[Knight76]

Coaches on the sidelines could work!

Make the coach run a lap of the field every time their team conceded a penalty or drops the ball.

Adds game day value, motivates the coach to get better at coaching, motivates the players to not be that guy the coach takes it out on the next weeks training.

 

[Travitoh]

If players went on strike for a year - game would be screwed.
If refs went on strike for a year - game would be screwed.
If coaches went on strike for a year - game would be great again.

See this is a good post. What you are saying is true, some coaches are much better than others.

So do coaches have an effect or not?

 

[T-Boon]

So do coaches have an effect or not?

They have an overall negative effect on the value of the game, I don't think many would argue that the things they have brought into the game past 15 years has devalued it.
But obviously some coaches have good winning records other crap records, it is mainly about the quality of players but a good coach can help a club win. They all seem to leave their clubs weak when they leave though like Bennett so even then the lasting value to the club is questionable.
You would get the same under a captain coach system or part time coaches or big regulations on coaching.

Main point is they are passengers on game day, so do something useful.

 

[Travitoh]

The have an overall negative effect on the value of the game, I don't think many would argue that the things they have brought into the game past 15 years has devalued it.
But obviously some coaches have good winning records other crap records, it is mainly about the quality of players but a good coach can help a club win. They all seem to leave their clubs weak when they leave though like Bennett so even then the lasting value to the club is questionable.
You would get the same under a captain coach system or part time coaches or big regulations on coaching.

Main point is they are passengers on game day, so do something useful.

The thing is, it isn't what the coaches have brought into the game that has 'devalued' it as you suggest. It is the way the game's lack of progression to overcome the negatives that may occur.
The game is potentially in the best shape it has ever been in. It just needs the governing bodies to make a small handful of changes that will fulfill it's potential.

 

[T-Boon]

The thing is, it isn't what the coaches have brought into the game that has 'devalued' it as you suggest. It is the way the game's lack of progression to overcome the negatives that may occur.

What negatives do you mean here?
Do you mean all the negatives the coaches have come up with in the last 15 years like wrestling?
Thats what I am talking about.
You can also blame the games lack of progression to try to get on top of this stuff on coaches as well. I mean, look at last year when the NRL tried to get on top of the latest nonsense the coaches have brought into the game while defending the red zone. The coaches just ran a media campaign to get the crack down stopped.

 

[Pommy]

How do you achieve such a percentage of shit threads to good ones?
I’m not sure I could do it this well if I tried.

I propose in top ball we have the coaches in hot air balloons above the pitch trying to shoot each other with air rifles.

 

[Travitoh]

What negatives do you mean here?
Do you mean all the negatives the coaches have come up with in the last 15 years like wrestling?
Thats what I am talking about.
You can also blame the games lack of progression to try to get on top of this stuff on coaches as well. I mean, look at last year when the NRL tried to get on top of the latest nonsense the coaches have brought into the game while defending the red zone. The coaches just ran a media campaign to get the crack down stopped.

If offside and holding down inside the 20 were treated as professional fouls (which they should've been) instead of every 1 in 5, i believe we would've seen a different result.
The problem with the current setup is that giving away penalties inside the 20 are generally looked at as a good thing by the players. It's better to concede 6 more tackles than concede 6 points.

 

[T-Boon]

Coaches should be allowed on the field between a try and restart of play. Get them out there earning their money. During this time trainers should only be allowed out there if the coach is out there. No relaying messages through trainers.

Trainers should not be allowed out there when the game is in play, only when play has been stopped by the ref for an injury.

 

[adamkungl]

Coaches should be allowed on the field between a try and restart of play. Get them out there earning their money.

 

[T-Boon]

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See that puts bums on seats. Legendary even 15 years later.

 

[T-Boon]

I think we would see a lot more of that sought of emotion and drama if the coaches were not allowed to send messages through their trainers.

Allowing trainers to get between coaches and the players during the heat of the battle is robbing the game and the fans of some of the best entertainment in the game. If the coach was out there after a try is scored then the TV coverage would be all over that interaction and the commentators would not have as much time to spend on over analysing whether a bad ref decision contributed to the try.

 

[kdalymc]

If coaches went on strike for a year - game would be great again.