Confirmed Signings

[yakstorm]

Honestly the whole Volkman scenario sounds more like a player making bad decisions or taking bad advice than necessarily any club doing anything dodgy.

Clearly Volkman got injured whilst at the Warriors, he never trained with the Dragons, so that's not in question, so the question is more why wasn't the injury sent for scans? Now if it's was a scenario where Volkman reported that he was injured, and the Warriors refused to let him get a proper medical assessment, than honestly then everyone involved in that call should be immediately banned from the game.

Now there doesn't appear to be any indication that anything like that took place, and considering the Warriors still had Volkman contracted for 2 seasons and didn't appear to be shipping him around beforehand, it seems less likely the club would block him from getting a proper assessment.

So it was most likely either a case that the injury seemed pretty inconsequential at the time and all parties dismissed it (and clearly it had minimal impact on Volkman's ability to train with the club afterwards) or he was aware of the injury and chose to try and hide it. Now if it was the latter, that could have been because he knew of the Dragons offer, it could have been that he was trying to secure his spot in the Warriors first squad or it could have been bad advice from his manager, or he may have known it was a recurrent injury and feared what it would do to his ability of playing NRL.

Regardless of whether he dismissed it at the time and didn't push for a medical examination or if it was one of the later options, it was a less than ideal judgement call on his behalf, although honestly I'm sure most of us can agree that we all made a few bad calls at 21.

In this scenario the NRL needs to step in and help protect the player and ensure he gets paid for 2024 and get his surgery. Whether that's the NRL covering him as an unregistered player or by the NRL giving the Warriors salary cap dispensation for Volkman for '24 (as he has a season ending injury), shouldn't matter.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

Honestly the whole Volkman scenario sounds more like a player making bad decisions or taking bad advice than necessarily any club doing anything dodgy.

Clearly Volkman got injured whilst at the Warriors, he never trained with the Dragons, so that's not in question, so the question is more why wasn't the injury sent for scans? Now if it's was a scenario where Volkman reported that he was injured, and the Warriors refused to let him get a proper medical assessment, than honestly then everyone involved in that call should be immediately banned from the game.

Now there doesn't appear to be any indication that anything like that took place, and considering the Warriors still had Volkman contracted for 2 seasons and didn't appear to be shipping him around beforehand, it seems less likely the club would block him from getting a proper assessment.

So it was most likely either a case that the injury seemed pretty inconsequential at the time and all parties dismissed it (and clearly it had minimal impact on Volkman's ability to train with the club afterwards) or he was aware of the injury and chose to try and hide it. Now if it was the latter, that could have been because he knew of the Dragons offer, it could have been that he was trying to secure his spot in the Warriors first squad or it could have been bad advice from his manager, or he may have known it was a recurrent injury and feared what it would do to his ability of playing NRL.

Regardless of whether he dismissed it at the time and didn't push for a medical examination or if it was one of the later options, it was a less than ideal judgement call on his behalf, although honestly I'm sure most of us can agree that we all made a few bad calls at 21.

In this scenario the NRL needs to step in and help protect the player and ensure he gets paid for 2024 and get his surgery. Whether that's the NRL covering him as an unregistered player or by the NRL giving the Warriors salary cap dispensation for Volkman for '24 (as he has a season ending injury), shouldn't matter.

Is it as simple as he was technically injured at work so the warriors should cover all costs and wages lost? But I guess the decision to request a release may override that.

 

[Vee]

Haven't seen it mentioned here yet but I read somewhere that the Warriors had paid a substantial portion of Volkman's remaining two years in the release deal.

 

[JamesRustle]

Honestly the whole Volkman scenario sounds more like a player making bad decisions or taking bad advice than necessarily any club doing anything dodgy.

Clearly Volkman got injured whilst at the Warriors, he never trained with the Dragons, so that's not in question, so the question is more why wasn't the injury sent for scans? Now if it's was a scenario where Volkman reported that he was injured, and the Warriors refused to let him get a proper medical assessment, than honestly then everyone involved in that call should be immediately banned from the game.

Now there doesn't appear to be any indication that anything like that took place, and considering the Warriors still had Volkman contracted for 2 seasons and didn't appear to be shipping him around beforehand, it seems less likely the club would block him from getting a proper assessment.

So it was most likely either a case that the injury seemed pretty inconsequential at the time and all parties dismissed it (and clearly it had minimal impact on Volkman's ability to train with the club afterwards) or he was aware of the injury and chose to try and hide it. Now if it was the latter, that could have been because he knew of the Dragons offer, it could have been that he was trying to secure his spot in the Warriors first squad or it could have been bad advice from his manager, or he may have known it was a recurrent injury and feared what it would do to his ability of playing NRL.

Regardless of whether he dismissed it at the time and didn't push for a medical examination or if it was one of the later options, it was a less than ideal judgement call on his behalf, although honestly I'm sure most of us can agree that we all made a few bad calls at 21.

In this scenario the NRL needs to step in and help protect the player and ensure he gets paid for 2024 and get his surgery. Whether that's the NRL covering him as an unregistered player or by the NRL giving the Warriors salary cap dispensation for Volkman for '24 (as he has a season ending injury), shouldn't matter.

His manager should cover medical costs and the balance of the warriors contract committments.. What sort of player manager seeks a full release before securing an unconditional contract. Take away his accreditation.

 

[Saxon]

Cooper Johns quits League

Didn't have a contract after not being re-signed by Manly. Played 19 games across 3 seasons at Storm and Sea Eagles.
Personally I don't think it's a great loss to the game. Adequate player who could have been quite good if he'd spent half as much time doing extra practice as he spent being a "practical joker" (i.e. pain in the arse).

 

[mozza91]

Adequate is a big stretch. He’s one of the most mediocre halves the game has seen.

 

[One Warrior]

Haven't seen it mentioned here yet but I read somewhere that the Warriors had paid a substantial portion of Volkman's remaining two years in the release deal.

Yes they did.

Warriors CEO defends club amid Volkman fiasco

The fallout from this saga raises questions about due diligence undertaken by clubs.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Honestly the whole Volkman scenario sounds more like a player making bad decisions or taking bad advice than necessarily any club doing anything dodgy.

Clearly Volkman got injured whilst at the Warriors, he never trained with the Dragons, so that's not in question, so the question is more why wasn't the injury sent for scans? Now if it's was a scenario where Volkman reported that he was injured, and the Warriors refused to let him get a proper medical assessment, than honestly then everyone involved in that call should be immediately banned from the game.

Now there doesn't appear to be any indication that anything like that took place, and considering the Warriors still had Volkman contracted for 2 seasons and didn't appear to be shipping him around beforehand, it seems less likely the club would block him from getting a proper assessment.

So it was most likely either a case that the injury seemed pretty inconsequential at the time and all parties dismissed it (and clearly it had minimal impact on Volkman's ability to train with the club afterwards) or he was aware of the injury and chose to try and hide it. Now if it was the latter, that could have been because he knew of the Dragons offer, it could have been that he was trying to secure his spot in the Warriors first squad or it could have been bad advice from his manager, or he may have known it was a recurrent injury and feared what it would do to his ability of playing NRL.

Regardless of whether he dismissed it at the time and didn't push for a medical examination or if it was one of the later options, it was a less than ideal judgement call on his behalf, although honestly I'm sure most of us can agree that we all made a few bad calls at 21.

In this scenario the NRL needs to step in and help protect the player and ensure he gets paid for 2024 and get his surgery. Whether that's the NRL covering him as an unregistered player or by the NRL giving the Warriors salary cap dispensation for Volkman for '24 (as he has a season ending injury), shouldn't matter.

Volkman did train with the Dragons, there were pictures of him training.

 

[Bob]

The fault is with the dragons on this one, their due dilligence wasn’t good enough

 

[Chimp]

My guess is that he got injured on 12th December, was already in talks with Dragons (which Warriors will have known about), player will have played down the injury, with Xmas break coming up in a matter of days, and the player seemingly on his way out the door, the Warriors have ZERO urgency to get him checked-out. He then requests a release, they agree….. dragons announce him, without the signed contract registered.
For me, based on the facts we have, the blame here, in order of responsibility is;

RV’s management - shouldn’t have signed the release without a cast iron contract elsewhere in place

Dragons - Not completing due diligence before announcing signing and subsequently dumping the young bloke

RV - I guess he hid the seriousness of his injury to both warriors and Drags, and also ultimately allowed his management to make these decisions without being close enough to the potential consequences. Players need to take more responsibility for themselves.

 

[Lucas]

Cooper Johns quits League

Didn't have a contract after not being re-signed by Manly. Played 19 games across 3 seasons at Storm and Sea Eagles.
Personally I don't think it's a great loss to the game. Adequate player who could have been quite good if he'd spent half as much time doing extra practice as he spent being a "practical joker" (i.e. pain in the arse).

No don't agree with this at all. He did well to get as many games as he did. He certainly isn't some wasted talent.

 

[SBD82]

The fault is with the dragons on this one, their due dilligence wasn’t good enough

We shouldn’t have announced it early, but how could we have been more diligent?

We received info minimising his injury, ran him through a medical and didn’t register his contract. What else should we have done?

 

[One Warrior]

We shouldn’t have announced it early, but how could we have been more diligent?

We received info minimising his injury, ran him through a medical and didn’t register his contract. What else should we have done?

He did training with you guys before a medical, pictures of him in Dragons gear were on Dragons instagram before they were pulled when he was cut.

 

[beave]

Released Warrior confirms new club with contract details revealed

He has a new home for 2024.

www.zerotackle.com

Volkman to the Dragons. Think he will end up a better player then Dearden

 

[SBD82]

He did training with you guys before a medical, pictures of him in Dragons gear were on Dragons instagram before they were pulled when he was cut.

I saw those, and looks like that’s against the policy. But for what it’s worth he was in a no contact training bib.

Regardless, he was put through a medical before registering his contract. That’s due diligence.

I reckon the person who comes out of this looking the worst is Volkman’s manager. How dumb would you have to be to sign a release without having another contract fully sorted, especially for a player who has a history of significant injury?

 

[One Warrior]

I saw those, and looks like that’s against the policy. But for what it’s worth he was in a no contact training bib.

Regardless, he was put through a medical before registering his contract. That’s due diligence.

I reckon the person who comes out of this looking the worst is Volkman’s manager. How dumb would you have to be to sign a release without having another contract fully sorted, especially for a player who has a history of significant injury?

Yes I agree, Volkman's manager is at fault here, he insisted on a release from the Warriors, where Volkman had a 2 year contract, Volkman should definitely ditch him.

 

[JamesRustle]

Cooper Johns quits League

Didn't have a contract after not being re-signed by Manly. Played 19 games across 3 seasons at Storm and Sea Eagles.
Personally I don't think it's a great loss to the game. Adequate player who could have been quite good if he'd spent half as much time doing extra practice as he spent being a "practical joker" (i.e. pain in the arse).

It is a great loss... if he kept playing it means one less Johns in the media dribbling shit.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Nofoaluma released from contract

Wests Tigers winger David Nofoaluma has been released from the remaining two years of his playing contract.

www.weststigers.com.au

 

[Someone2]

Hope he comes to Parra

we are only missing one decent back

 

[nick87]

Hope he comes to Parra

we are only missing one decent back

Who's Nofo bringing with him to fill the decent back you're missing?
Dont worry, come round 6 the Raiders will probably happily give you Nick Cotric to get Ethan Sanders early

 

[MrBlack]

I doubt anyone in the NRL takes him.

Looks like an attitude problem has driven him out of the Tigers.

A stint in Super League looks most likely.