Cough! Cough! FFS Someone Sack the Coach!!!

[Cagey Mac]

I think that our backline attack has been ordinary all year
We are the easiest team to read in the NRL (again IMO)
Our defence is okay and doesn't give up a lot of territory unless the opposing side has an outstanding backline or a very big pack.
I believe that part of the reason that it's okay as that teams don't have to score many to beat us and less desperation = fewer points scored
Steve Price is yet to show that he's a capable first grade coach. I'm not saying outstanding, I'm saying capable. If he was a player in his own side, he'd be dropped well and truly by now for underperforming.
IMO the Price experiment has failed and I believe that his contract should be terminated immediately. Let him go to England and learn his trade like others have. I wish him well but IMO enough is enough. My call based on what I've seen that there is no way that the club can move forward with Price at the helm. I think Peter Doust should cut his losses and do what is best for club.

 

[STG 002]

Hornby to fullback, back on the Winger. Give Vidot a go in the 2rd row, he had the same physique as Creagh, it's sooner rather than later.

 

[Cagey Mac]

Hornby to fullback, back on the Winger. Give Vidot a go in the 2rd row, he had the same physique as Creagh, it's sooner rather than later.

Vidot is defintely worth a try in the back row. Could be a monster there but will need to learn the ropes and a good pre-season will help
I assume that you mean Nighty to the wing agreed
Beale will be fullback and I guess Cummins to deputise there
I'd also consider Cummins as a potential 1/2 or 5/8
If Beale doesn't work at FB then he could fit in at centre too
Don't really know where Benny Hornby fits in. I certainly don't hold him responsible for our problems. He's lost pace but apart from early season defence problems brought about by positional change, has been ok but not good enough to lift the team and that's what we need from a halfback and captain.

 

[Elias1983]

Next year,
Can Beale be our answer at fullback,can Chase step up in the centres,will our halves step up ,can Prior improve,can Hunt pack on a couple more kilos and learn to offload,can our hookers improve even more.Sorry i know i sound like a bank commercial ,but i hope these answers don't turn out to be CAN'T.

I think all of the above can definately happen Jenninga, the question is can it happen under the current coach?

Is he good enough to drive his players?

I'm still of the opinion that we need to give him his 2 years but if we are in the same situation this time next year with no sign of improvement i.e active recruitment in key areas, and improvement on the above where players are developing (or not for that metter) then sack him.

 

[Drain the Dragon]

Hornby to fullback

Now there's a backwards step if ever I've heard one.

Hornby hasn't been considered as a fullback since 2005. That's 7 years ago. The team has moved on, and Ben has a premiership ring as a halfback.

And from all reports Beale has been promised the fullback role for next year.

Putting Ben back at fullback would be our 4th experiment in the position this season. Unheard of. Crazy stuff. :crazy:

 

[Simon Templar]

The key position in the modern game is fullback. With 7 one side of the ruck and 6 the other the fullback becomes the additional player that makes it hard for the a team to number up against because the fullback can choose either side to attack. Additionally the full back must be a ball player. Hence the stars of the last five years - Bowen, Stewart, Boyd and now Barba. Significantly this was what made Hornby such an effective fullback. Since the departure of Boyd the position has been mismanaged and misunderstood by the coach. Hence really effective defence and stuttering attack. This is down to inexperience. Having said all of that Cleary who achieved great heights with the Warriors has had a worse year with admittedly a worse squad. Brian Smith has also had a shocker as well as Kearney who also paid the price for an ineffective fullback.

 

[Minh]

I think that our backline attack has been ordinary all year
We are the easiest team to read in the NRL (again IMO)
Our defence is okay and doesn't give up a lot of territory unless the opposing side has an outstanding backline or a very big pack.
I believe that part of the reason that it's okay as that teams don't have to score many to beat us and less desperation = fewer points scored
Steve Price is yet to show that he's a capable first grade coach. I'm not saying outstanding, I'm saying capable. If he was a player in his own side, he'd be dropped well and truly by now for underperforming.
IMO the Price experiment has failed and I believe that his contract should be terminated immediately. Let him go to England and learn his trade like others have. I wish him well but IMO enough is enough. My call based on what I've seen that there is no way that the club can move forward with Price at the helm. I think Peter Doust should cut his losses and do what is best for club.

Agreed Steve Price has all but nearly lost all my vote of confidence in him.

 

[West coast dragon]

hornby to fullback? how 'bout retirement instead?and take cooper and fien fishing or something i know hes a club legend but ffs he's hanging on too long cooper has been walking around all year and fien is well just being himself let it go boys let it go!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gomarchin]

Steve Price comments after the Roosters game:

"I thought there were a lot of good performances amongst our team with blokes competing hard and I was happy with all their contributions."

We made 46 missed tackles (season high) and 14 errors.

I'm not sure what Price was trying to achieve by making this statement however it is clear he has very low standards. The experiment with a rookie didn't work 10 years ago and it will not work with Price.

 

[64 Dragon]

I have been a supporter of Price seeing out his contract, but after those comments, I am rethinking my support. WE WERE WAY BEHIND THE THIRD BOTTOM TEAM IN EVERYTHING!!!! What game did Price see? The 2010 GF?

 

[gorilla]

I think that our backline attack has been ordinary all year
We are the easiest team to read in the NRL (again IMO)
Our defence is okay and doesn't give up a lot of territory unless the opposing side has an outstanding backline or a very big pack.
I believe that part of the reason that it's okay as that teams don't have to score many to beat us and less desperation = fewer points scored
Steve Price is yet to show that he's a capable first grade coach. I'm not saying outstanding, I'm saying capable. If he was a player in his own side, he'd be dropped well and truly by now for underperforming.
IMO the Price experiment has failed and I believe that his contract should be terminated immediately. Let him go to England and learn his trade like others have. I wish him well but IMO enough is enough. My call based on what I've seen that there is no way that the club can move forward with Price at the helm. I think Peter Doust should cut his losses and do what is best for club.

One of the interesting bits about our defense record is that it's often been after mistakes or bad field position.

Perversely I took pleasure, during 2009/10 that we could make mistakes or have bad position and be able to hold out, and then score.

We haven't been able to score but, except for a few games this season, the defense had been solid.

 

[Minh]

I too was a staunch supporter but not now, he is always happy with performance always putting a positive spin when there is none. He had a great chance to identify weaknesses and make changes when players were costing us games early in the season, and the final straw was dropping our star player when he wasn't the worst performer and there had been far worse before.

 

[Willow]

Steve Price comments after the Roosters game:

"I thought there were a lot of good performances amongst our team with blokes competing hard and I was happy with all their contributions."

We made 46 missed tackles (season high) and 14 errors.

I'm not sure what Price was trying to achieve by making this statement however it is clear he has very low standards. The experiment with a rookie didn't work 10 years ago and it will not work with Price.

He was obviously referring to individual performances, not the the overall team performance.

Link to that quote: http://www.dragons.com.au/news-display/Price-Rues-Costly-Execution-Mistakes/60853

Look at the headline, read the entire article, watch the video. Don't just extract one snippet and then draw a picture for the rest of us.

Of course, he said a lot more than that. He also pointed to the lack of execution. Blind Freddy could tell he was disappointed in the result, and that includes the missed tackles etc.

A coach is applauded when the team is doing well, so it stands to reason that he should shoulder a good portion of the blame when the team isn't doing so well. But let's not deliberately misread his comments.

 

[gorilla]

Significantly this was what made Hornby such an effective fullback.

That's right - about 5-7 years ago.

No fit to the modern game and age.

 

[Gomarchin]

He was obviously referring to individual performances, not the the overall team performance.

Look at the headline, read the entire article, watch the video. Don't just extract one snippet and then draw a picture for the rest of us.

Of course, he said a lot more than that. He also pointed to the lack of execution. Blind Freddy could tell he was disappointed in the result, and that includes the missed tackles etc.

A coach is applauded when the team is doing well, so it stands to reason that he should shoulder a good portion of the blame when the team isn't doing so well. But let's not deliberately misread his comments.

I did read the entire article and watch the video of the press conference. What stood out for me was the quote I highlighted and included in the post. The 'picture' I was trying to draw for you is how incompetent Price is by making such a comment. I havent taken the comment out of context or misquoted him. He said it.

What he should've said is that that performance from the team was unacceptable and not good enough. What was he trying to achieve by saying 'there were a lot of good performances amongst our team'?

 

[Willow]

You can't tell him what to say or tell other people how they should think. But he did say it was frustrating to see the errors, which you have elected to ignore.

 

[Hutty1986]

Settle ya'll. It's just our execution!!

 

[Mr Red]

Steve Price comments after the Roosters game:

"I thought there were a lot of good performances amongst our team with blokes competing hard and I was happy with all their contributions."

We made 46 missed tackles (season high) and 14 errors.

I'm not sure what Price was trying to achieve by making this statement however it is clear he has very low standards. The experiment with a rookie didn't work 10 years ago and it will not work with Price.

Price loves getting his pants pulled down...
i understand as a coach you have to be "politically correct" at times and keep the dirty laundry in house, but that doesnt mean you look like a goose and praise the team for one of their worst performances of the season... the scary thing is he actually believes this shit...delusional..
planet Price : population 1

 

[Joey_dragons]

price and kearney have similar attitudes in the press conference when there teams gets smashed. there always calm and always have alot of positivies.

 

[Drain the Dragon]

You see it on the Dragons website as well. All fuzzy and warm, all positive. I'm sure the well-paid sports psychologists have drummed it in that they need to take a positive out and throw away all the negativity, but honestly it's bordering on being an insult to our intelligence.

I also hate to see all the back-slapping that goes on these days on the field when a team mate makes an error. It's creating an atmosphere where no-one is answerable for their mistakes.

Mediocrity rules - OK.