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Crap end of the stick award

Which team gets the raw end most for 2009?

  • Broncos

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Canberra

    Votes: 10 14.7%
  • Canterbury

    Votes: 12 17.6%
  • Manly

    Votes: 4 5.9%
  • Newcastle

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Souths

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • NZ Warriors

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Penrith

    Votes: 7 10.3%
  • Parramatta

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • Cronulla

    Votes: 6 8.8%
  • Wests Tigers

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • St George

    Votes: 7 10.3%
  • Melbourne

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Gold Coast

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • NQ Cowboys

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Sydney Roosters

    Votes: 6 8.8%

  • Total voters
    68

Engine

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Which team has copped the most garbage from the refs in 2009? Think about the teams that never seem to get a break from the refs.

My 2009 nomination is Penrith. They never seem to get the rub of the green this season.
Honorable mentions to Souths, Warriors and Canberra.
 

Engine

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Whenever there is a 50/50 decision...you can bet your ass it will go against Canberra, Penrith, Warriors or Souths.
 
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I think we have won 2 penalty counts all year. Some random bullsh*t decisions;


  • Pearce is penalised for taking out glass shoulders when glass shoulders kicked him - Tigpies score then win the game
  • Two legitimate tries disallowed against Sharks
  • Myles sent to the sin bin against the inbreds - Knights player does the exact same thing after half time and not even a penalty
  • Melbourne are penalised 5 or 6 times inside 13 minutes then don't give away another penalty for the rest of the game. f**king miraculous they have a player sent for 10 and give that many away in 13 minutes but don't give away another one for the next 60 odd
  • Canberra try off a pass 5 metres forward
  • One on one strip against Manly given as a two man tackle
  • Tuigamala (I think?) has the ball knocked out of his hands in a two man tackle when attempting to score and it is awarded a knock on
  • Stacey Jones called offside TWICE within kicking range against the sheep f**kers in golden point and made a tackle but wasn't penalised
  • Williams tackles Anasta after making a break, ref calls held a few times and he continues to hold down and then pushes him down - no penalty
  • Next tackle Matai is atleast 5 metres offside and not penalised
  • atleast 5 games where we have been given penalties in the last 15 minutes to square up the count, last of which happened against Manly
  • Two forward pass tries for Inbreds
  • Forward pass try for Manly
You will be hard pressed to find worse referee performances than those against us when we played NZ, Knights, Brisbane, Manly and Melbourne.
 

Engine

Juniors
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Is somebody trying to be funny by posting St George? I cannot believe the luck they have had in 2009.

Don't get me wrong here. I love watching St George and they deserve to be where they are on the ladder. I love the Dell, Cooper, Jeremy Smith, Wayne Bennett etc.
But, even Saints fans must admit that they have had the rub of the green this season.
 

adamkungl

Immortal
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Roosters easily. in my unbiased opinion of course. TT summed it up nicely. Marshall kicking Pearce in the head and getting a penalty for it in front was my favourite
 

Cockadoodledoo

First Grade
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I think we have won 2 penalty counts all year. Some random bullsh*t decisions;


  • Pearce is penalised for taking out glass shoulders when glass shoulders kicked him - Tigpies score then win the game
  • Two legitimate tries disallowed against Sharks
  • Myles sent to the sin bin against the inbreds - Knights player does the exact same thing after half time and not even a penalty
  • Melbourne are penalised 5 or 6 times inside 13 minutes then don't give away another penalty for the rest of the game. f**king miraculous they have a player sent for 10 and give that many away in 13 minutes but don't give away another one for the next 60 odd
  • Canberra try off a pass 5 metres forward
  • One on one strip against Manly given as a two man tackle
  • Tuigamala (I think?) has the ball knocked out of his hands in a two man tackle when attempting to score and it is awarded a knock on
  • Stacey Jones called offside TWICE within kicking range against the sheep f**kers in golden point and made a tackle but wasn't penalised
  • Williams tackles Anasta after making a break, ref calls held a few times and he continues to hold down and then pushes him down - no penalty
  • Next tackle Matai is atleast 5 metres offside and not penalised
  • atleast 5 games where we have been given penalties in the last 15 minutes to square up the count, last of which happened against Manly
  • Two forward pass tries for Inbreds
  • Forward pass try for Manly
You will be hard pressed to find worse referee performances than those against us when we played NZ, Knights, Brisbane, Manly and Melbourne.

I love how we almost always get a penalty in the 30 seconds of the first half when we are 80 metres out and then a couple penalties in the last few minutes of the second half when the game is all over.. Tell tale signs of square ups or should i say stitch ups...
 

adamkungl

Immortal
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of course theres no denying we're too sh*t to recover from ref incompetence whereas teams like the dogs are far more capable. I'm not blaming refs on our rubbish season, but ffs we've been slaughtered for the last 3 years....since sacking finch.....
 

simmo1

First Grade
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I'm sure every teams has had about 50 bad decisions go against them that could be listed.

Thats footy. Move on.
 

skeepe

Immortal
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48,303
Oh boy, where do I start.

  • Taniela Tuiaki is clearly held TWICE, keeps going and scores. The try is awarded and the Tigers go on to win, and Robert Finch admits that the decision was incorrect.
  • Krisnan Inu gathers a lost ball by the Raiders, runs 15 metres upfield, loses the ball. Referee says no advantage, awards a scrum to Parramatta.
  • Luke Burt makes a break downfield, David Milne tackles and moves when told to, Burt throws himself forward without a hand on him and Milne gets sinbinned for what I can only assume was a phantom hold down. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Same game, Bronson Harrison, about 20 metres out from our own line, gets an offload away about 2-3 seconds after the defense get their hands on him, referee pulls it up, says he called held and orders a scrum. Parramatta score from the resulting set. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Luke Burt attempts to catch a kick, facing forwards, the ball hits his hand and goes forward, referee calls knocked back.
  • Campese kicks downfield and is hit marginally late (shouldn't be a penalty)... Canberra chasers regather with nobody in front of them, referee calls it back for a Canberra penalty and then to compound the error, won't let Campese take the quick tap, insists on waiting for the entire Parramatta defensive line - some 30 metres downfield - getting into position first.
  • Trevor Thurling is penalised for holding down, despite the tackle being far quicker than most others in the game. Parramatta score off the resulting set, and Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect. If any of those decisions had gone Canberra's way, they would have won as the deciding margin was just two points.
  • The Raiders make a break, and Luke O'Donnell commits a professional foul by holding down until his teammates can get back to defend. The exact same referee who deemed David Milne worthy of sin binning for not having a hand on the player decides that O'Donnell did nothing wrong.
  • In the same game, Antonio Kaufusi falls asleep on tackles several times. Naturally the Raiders are the only ones penalised for holding down.
  • On the last tackle, Campese kicks the ball hard into the ground and over the sideline. The touch judge apparently misses the massive rebound off the ground and says it went out on the full.
  • Bronson Harrison and Trevor Thurling are at marker. Both are standing dead square. The Sharks have the ball, and the first receiver drops it in the tackle. The Raiders pick it up, only for a penalty against the markers for something nobody can understand.
  • A Sharks player drops the ball when nobody has hands anywhere near him. The referee comically rules that it was stripped by the Raiders.
  • William Zillman chases through a Scott Prince kick but is 2-3 metres offside. The on-field referee decides to check it with the video referee. Despite every angle clearly showing Zillman offside, the video ref awards the try. That ends up being the difference as the Titans win by 6.
  • The Raiders score a wonderful try against the Bulldogs, which is sent to the video ref. Josh McCrone quite clearly promotes the ball back towards his own goal line (a knock back), yet quite inexplicably Phil Cooley decides that it is a knock on - quite possibly the only person who saw the game who could agree with that.
  • Later in that game, it appears Hazem El Masri has scored the matchwinner off a kick put through by... I think it was Ennis. It goes to the video, where replays clearly show that Jarrod Croker was going to get to the ball... until Jamal Idris pushes him in the back and takes him out of play. But Phil Cooley decides that it's fine to take out opposition players who certainly would have prevented a try being scored, and gives the Dogs the win.
  • To add insult to injury, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs is charged by the judiciary with striking for an incident where he attempted to fend Idris fairly.
  • Penrith are awarded a try despite one of the most blatant knock ons you will ever see in the lead-up.
  • Petero Civoniceva is penalised 3 times in 2 minutes for blatant professional fouls. He does not go to the sin bin, despite the fact that any other player would have.
  • Steve Price charges for the line but clearly loses the ball over it. The video referee ignores this and awards the "touchdown" (you couldn't call it a try).
  • Simon Mannering throws a pass that travels 5 metres forward, the Warriors score as a result. A Raiders pass that travelled backwards was later called forward in the same match.
  • Jarrod Croker is clearly taken out of the play by Beau Champion when contesting for a bomb. The ball lands exactly where Croker would have been had he not been taken out, and Souths score. The video ref again ignores a player being blatantly taken out and awards a try.
  • Trevor Thurling collides with Scott Porter simultaneously with the kick going up. Not only is an unfathomable penalty awarded, it's also put on report! Absolutely ridiculous.
  • Shayne Hayne goes an a penalty rampage, absolutely slaughtering Canberra and apparently seeing things nobody else can see, whilst ignoring countless indiscretions by the Sharks.
All of this ignores the countless times the opposition gets away with holding down for what seems like up to a minute while the Raiders are penalised for staying on longer than 2 seconds, the forward passes and knock ons not called despite how blatant they are, and just general incompetence by the referees.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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Geez, all this thread is going to do is highlight how most people on here are as padantic as the refs about making decisions. Im sure in the 50's and 60's had a few ref calls go against them, didnt stop them much. Que for the reminders of 63.
 
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Big Pete

Referee
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29,108
I'd say the Bulldogs. A number of their games they've been disadvantaged by the referee yet they always seem to accept it and move on.
 

mongoose

Coach
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11,805
Oh boy, where do I start.


  • Bronson Harrison and Trevor Thurling are at marker. Both are standing dead square. The Sharks have the ball, and the first receiver drops it in the tackle. The Raiders pick it up, only for a penalty against the markers for something nobody can understand.

I remember that one. No one, not the commentators or players had a clue what it was for and I still don't know what happened. If it was against the markers it was the most delayed penalty I have ever seen.
 

rickywalford1

First Grade
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Raiders and Penrith are a given. That's part of the games fabric.

Out of the ordinary crap end of the stick award goes to the Roosters. They have been hammered. It's good. ;-)
 

Jason Maher

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Oh boy, where do I start.

  • Taniela Tuiaki is clearly held TWICE, keeps going and scores. The try is awarded and the Tigers go on to win, and Robert Finch admits that the decision was incorrect.
  • Krisnan Inu gathers a lost ball by the Raiders, runs 15 metres upfield, loses the ball. Referee says no advantage, awards a scrum to Parramatta.
  • Luke Burt makes a break downfield, David Milne tackles and moves when told to, Burt throws himself forward without a hand on him and Milne gets sinbinned for what I can only assume was a phantom hold down. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Same game, Bronson Harrison, about 20 metres out from our own line, gets an offload away about 2-3 seconds after the defense get their hands on him, referee pulls it up, says he called held and orders a scrum. Parramatta score from the resulting set. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Luke Burt attempts to catch a kick, facing forwards, the ball hits his hand and goes forward, referee calls knocked back.
  • Campese kicks downfield and is hit marginally late (shouldn't be a penalty)... Canberra chasers regather with nobody in front of them, referee calls it back for a Canberra penalty and then to compound the error, won't let Campese take the quick tap, insists on waiting for the entire Parramatta defensive line - some 30 metres downfield - getting into position first.
  • Trevor Thurling is penalised for holding down, despite the tackle being far quicker than most others in the game. Parramatta score off the resulting set, and Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect. If any of those decisions had gone Canberra's way, they would have won as the deciding margin was just two points.
  • The Raiders make a break, and Luke O'Donnell commits a professional foul by holding down until his teammates can get back to defend. The exact same referee who deemed David Milne worthy of sin binning for not having a hand on the player decides that O'Donnell did nothing wrong.
  • In the same game, Antonio Kaufusi falls asleep on tackles several times. Naturally the Raiders are the only ones penalised for holding down.
  • On the last tackle, Campese kicks the ball hard into the ground and over the sideline. The touch judge apparently misses the massive rebound off the ground and says it went out on the full.
  • Bronson Harrison and Trevor Thurling are at marker. Both are standing dead square. The Sharks have the ball, and the first receiver drops it in the tackle. The Raiders pick it up, only for a penalty against the markers for something nobody can understand.
  • A Sharks player drops the ball when nobody has hands anywhere near him. The referee comically rules that it was stripped by the Raiders.
  • William Zillman chases through a Scott Prince kick but is 2-3 metres offside. The on-field referee decides to check it with the video referee. Despite every angle clearly showing Zillman offside, the video ref awards the try. That ends up being the difference as the Titans win by 6.
  • The Raiders score a wonderful try against the Bulldogs, which is sent to the video ref. Josh McCrone quite clearly promotes the ball back towards his own goal line (a knock back), yet quite inexplicably Phil Cooley decides that it is a knock on - quite possibly the only person who saw the game who could agree with that.
  • Later in that game, it appears Hazem El Masri has scored the matchwinner off a kick put through by... I think it was Ennis. It goes to the video, where replays clearly show that Jarrod Croker was going to get to the ball... until Jamal Idris pushes him in the back and takes him out of play. But Phil Cooley decides that it's fine to take out opposition players who certainly would have prevented a try being scored, and gives the Dogs the win.
  • To add insult to injury, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs is charged by the judiciary with striking for an incident where he attempted to fend Idris fairly.
  • Penrith are awarded a try despite one of the most blatant knock ons you will ever see in the lead-up.
  • Petero Civoniceva is penalised 3 times in 2 minutes for blatant professional fouls. He does not go to the sin bin, despite the fact that any other player would have.
  • Steve Price charges for the line but clearly loses the ball over it. The video referee ignores this and awards the "touchdown" (you couldn't call it a try).
  • Simon Mannering throws a pass that travels 5 metres forward, the Warriors score as a result. A Raiders pass that travelled backwards was later called forward in the same match.
  • Jarrod Croker is clearly taken out of the play by Beau Champion when contesting for a bomb. The ball lands exactly where Croker would have been had he not been taken out, and Souths score. The video ref again ignores a player being blatantly taken out and awards a try.
  • Trevor Thurling collides with Scott Porter simultaneously with the kick going up. Not only is an unfathomable penalty awarded, it's also put on report! Absolutely ridiculous.
  • Shayne Hayne goes an a penalty rampage, absolutely slaughtering Canberra and apparently seeing things nobody else can see, whilst ignoring countless indiscretions by the Sharks.
All of this ignores the countless times the opposition gets away with holding down for what seems like up to a minute while the Raiders are penalised for staying on longer than 2 seconds, the forward passes and knock ons not called despite how blatant they are, and just general incompetence by the referees.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Mate, you are seriously going to end up in a mental health ward if you keep this up. There's no need to willingly put yourself under so much stress. If the Raiders were actually a half decent team, you wouldn't need to worry about this sh*t because they might actually be winning some games.

I guarantee you any fan can come with a list such as yours and TT's for their team - but most of us prefer to get on with life. It's especially easy and completely unverifiable to make a claim such as in your last sentence. Having sat down and re-watched the Dragons-Penrith game after your (and a couple of others who were actually Penrith fans and thus might have legitimately given a sh*t) constant whingeing in the game thread that the refs handed the Dragons a 28-point win (why you'd give a f**k about a game between two teams you don't support is beyond me), I discovered that 90% of the so-called dodgy decisions you complained about were complete bullsh*t on your part. The most comical was you blowing up about the soft penalty for a high shot on Soward (which was soft), when a few minutes later Penrith received an identical penalty yet you remained mute. You have exactly zero credibility in this matter as far as I'm concerned.
 

coolumsharkie

Referee
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Oh boy, where do I start.

  • Taniela Tuiaki is clearly held TWICE, keeps going and scores. The try is awarded and the Tigers go on to win, and Robert Finch admits that the decision was incorrect.
  • Krisnan Inu gathers a lost ball by the Raiders, runs 15 metres upfield, loses the ball. Referee says no advantage, awards a scrum to Parramatta.
  • Luke Burt makes a break downfield, David Milne tackles and moves when told to, Burt throws himself forward without a hand on him and Milne gets sinbinned for what I can only assume was a phantom hold down. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Same game, Bronson Harrison, about 20 metres out from our own line, gets an offload away about 2-3 seconds after the defense get their hands on him, referee pulls it up, says he called held and orders a scrum. Parramatta score from the resulting set. Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect.
  • Luke Burt attempts to catch a kick, facing forwards, the ball hits his hand and goes forward, referee calls knocked back.
  • Campese kicks downfield and is hit marginally late (shouldn't be a penalty)... Canberra chasers regather with nobody in front of them, referee calls it back for a Canberra penalty and then to compound the error, won't let Campese take the quick tap, insists on waiting for the entire Parramatta defensive line - some 30 metres downfield - getting into position first.
  • Trevor Thurling is penalised for holding down, despite the tackle being far quicker than most others in the game. Parramatta score off the resulting set, and Robert Finch admits the decision was incorrect. If any of those decisions had gone Canberra's way, they would have won as the deciding margin was just two points.
  • The Raiders make a break, and Luke O'Donnell commits a professional foul by holding down until his teammates can get back to defend. The exact same referee who deemed David Milne worthy of sin binning for not having a hand on the player decides that O'Donnell did nothing wrong.
  • In the same game, Antonio Kaufusi falls asleep on tackles several times. Naturally the Raiders are the only ones penalised for holding down.
  • On the last tackle, Campese kicks the ball hard into the ground and over the sideline. The touch judge apparently misses the massive rebound off the ground and says it went out on the full.
  • Bronson Harrison and Trevor Thurling are at marker. Both are standing dead square. The Sharks have the ball, and the first receiver drops it in the tackle. The Raiders pick it up, only for a penalty against the markers for something nobody can understand.
  • A Sharks player drops the ball when nobody has hands anywhere near him. The referee comically rules that it was stripped by the Raiders.
  • William Zillman chases through a Scott Prince kick but is 2-3 metres offside. The on-field referee decides to check it with the video referee. Despite every angle clearly showing Zillman offside, the video ref awards the try. That ends up being the difference as the Titans win by 6.
  • The Raiders score a wonderful try against the Bulldogs, which is sent to the video ref. Josh McCrone quite clearly promotes the ball back towards his own goal line (a knock back), yet quite inexplicably Phil Cooley decides that it is a knock on - quite possibly the only person who saw the game who could agree with that.
  • Later in that game, it appears Hazem El Masri has scored the matchwinner off a kick put through by... I think it was Ennis. It goes to the video, where replays clearly show that Jarrod Croker was going to get to the ball... until Jamal Idris pushes him in the back and takes him out of play. But Phil Cooley decides that it's fine to take out opposition players who certainly would have prevented a try being scored, and gives the Dogs the win.
  • To add insult to injury, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs is charged by the judiciary with striking for an incident where he attempted to fend Idris fairly.
  • Penrith are awarded a try despite one of the most blatant knock ons you will ever see in the lead-up.
  • Petero Civoniceva is penalised 3 times in 2 minutes for blatant professional fouls. He does not go to the sin bin, despite the fact that any other player would have.
  • Steve Price charges for the line but clearly loses the ball over it. The video referee ignores this and awards the "touchdown" (you couldn't call it a try).
  • Simon Mannering throws a pass that travels 5 metres forward, the Warriors score as a result. A Raiders pass that travelled backwards was later called forward in the same match.
  • Jarrod Croker is clearly taken out of the play by Beau Champion when contesting for a bomb. The ball lands exactly where Croker would have been had he not been taken out, and Souths score. The video ref again ignores a player being blatantly taken out and awards a try.
  • Trevor Thurling collides with Scott Porter simultaneously with the kick going up. Not only is an unfathomable penalty awarded, it's also put on report! Absolutely ridiculous.
  • Shayne Hayne goes an a penalty rampage, absolutely slaughtering Canberra and apparently seeing things nobody else can see, whilst ignoring countless indiscretions by the Sharks.
All of this ignores the countless times the opposition gets away with holding down for what seems like up to a minute while the Raiders are penalised for staying on longer than 2 seconds, the forward passes and knock ons not called despite how blatant they are, and just general incompetence by the referees.

:lol: :lol:
 

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