Cutting out the cat.

[Canard]

If you believe thatthe vast majority of crushers are accidents, I can't see any point in continuing the discussion.

 

[Knight76]

If you believe thatthe vast majority of crushers are accidents, I can't see any point in continuing the discussion.

You're saying players are intentionally bringing their weight down on the back of an opposing players neck, potentially causing serious lifelong injury?

You are right, I don't see any point continuing the discussion.

 

[6 more kfc buckets]

They could put their faces on a wall.of shame and have a lions cake awarded to the biggest cat on dally m night.

 

[Nuke]

I'll admit I don't watch as many games as I used to, but I'd suggest the majority of 'crusher' tackles I see are being caused by the attacking player turning their body around and trying to back through the defensive line.

But yeah, I don't have any solutions to the topic at hand, but I, for one, hate seeing players take dives. It looks stupid and petty when you see soccer players do it, and it's something I hate even more seeing in our game. I just don't know how to stop it!

 

[Perth Red]

Well the officials could do their job and call it when it happens thus negating the need for the player laying down for the vr to call it?

 

[Chimp]

Get rid of the bunker intervention - if the ref and 2 touchies didn’t see it as being penalty worthy on first watch, at normal speed, then it can’t be that obvious of a penalty - the MRC can pick up any bans that are needed etc Maybe bunker can only make referee aware of serious foul play ‘off the ball’ as the ref wouldn’t have been watching off the ball.

We have to get away from the game being refereed in super slow mo….

For me, the game is played at and therefore should be refereed at normal pace. If there’s no change of the bunker intervening, there’s no point ‘laying down’.

I also think we should move to a captains challenge model on tries - it’s the infield refs call, unless there is a challenge. And even then, the bunker should only be allowed a maximum of 3 views, and only at full pace - if they can’t see an obvious error at normal speed, then it’s whatever the ref called.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Well the officials could do their job and call it when it happens thus negating the need for the player laying down for the vr to call it?

I 100% agree with this.

The other way of stopping it is getting players to stop hitting their fellow professionals in the head?

We always seem to blame the player who lays down; you know, the guys that have just been fouled…

 

[Canard]

It's bizarre how much fans blame the victim.

But then you realise, people just want there team to be exempt from this and the other team punished.

 

[myrrh ken]

Its getting ridiculous though. Someone was rubbing their neck after their head got caught under somebodys arm. Penalty. Then up and running again.

Its usually the older, smarter players that are milking it for all its worth.

 

[coolumsharkie]

It's bizarre how much fans blame the victim.

But then you realise, people just want there team to be exempt from this and the other team punished.

Oh ok so you're serious

99% of supposed crusher tackles that occur happen because the physical mechanics of the sport makes it unavoidable. Which a few posts here have tried to point out to you. You can not penalise accidental collisions including high shots, crushers out of the game and most of these occur unintentionally. The need to penalise such tackles are valid and intended to not exploit these types of situations. What the NRL has done especially since Magic Round last year was to throw a blanket over the lot and call every suspected *pick your indiscretion* a penalty. This has opened a sad loophole where players can now feign injury to recieve a penalty.

I thought this was obvious buy hey, some people see this sport in strange ways, especially ignorant povs perhaps due to being a couch dweller and never really lacing on a boot.

 

[LineBall]

Get rid of the bunker and you get rid of feigning injury from crusher tackles as well as defenders diving to try and get a penalty for obstruction.

 

[Perth Red]

Get rid of the bunker and you get rid of feigning injury from crusher tackles as well as defenders diving to try and get a penalty for obstruction.

Yould need a gentleman's agreement with TV partners as well not to show every decision in super slo mo and to not have commentators harping on about every missed call or wrong decision all game long, and in the press afterwards. Good luck with that!

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Its getting ridiculous though. Someone was rubbing their neck after their head got caught under somebodys arm. Penalty. Then up and running again.

Its usually the older, smarter players that are milking it for all its worth.

I agree with you, but the bunker doesn’t need to give a penalty. The bunker giving a penalty just because someone showed they were injured is pure rugby league refs; reffing the outcome over the rules.

I liked the way it seemed to be working for (sigh) 1 week this year; if you stay down you need to leave the field for an assessment.

But that doesn’t change the fact that I believe if you get fouled you have the right to try to claim a penalty.

 

[Canard]

You would hope LU would a bit more individual thought then to just adopt a Phil Gould dinosaur approach to foul play.

 

[Saxon]

Get rid of the bunker intervention - if the ref and 2 touchies didn’t see it as being penalty worthy on first watch, at normal speed, then it can’t be that obvious of a penalty

What have you been watching the last few years?
If the refs said "sky is blue, grass is green", you'd stick your head outside to check.

 

[bileduct]

Do we make a player who grabs at his head or face or other part of the high region on his body, go off for a 5 minute Medico check? This may not work though because it will creep into other parts of the game eventually, as the game itself disappears up its own arsehole.

Depends. Is it a free interchange for five minutes or do they play a man down?

 

[The Rosco]

We need an expert.
One who is the quickest to rub his neck, then spring to life upon hearing the whistle.
Nathan Brown from Parra . . . . come on down !!

 

[_Johnsy]

It's bizarre how much fans blame the victim.

But then you realise, people just want there team to be exempt from this and the other team punished.

Just like Cam Smith apportioned blame on McKinnon.

 

[Perth Red]

We need an expert.
One who is the quickest to rub his neck, then spring to life upon hearing the whistle.
Nathan Brown from Parra . . . . come on down !!

Reckon Munster is in the running!

 

[Apey]

If you believe thatthe vast majority of crushers are accidents, I can't see any point in continuing the discussion.

They are. Its the biggest joke of a penalty in the game. Most of the time players are turning their bodies into the defence as they go to the ground to try to get an offload off.

There are, of course, the rare legitimate crusher. Those should be penalised harshly.

As for the thread, I dont mind them having a look if someone stays down. Maybe they need to go for HIA. The biggest problem as alluded to earlier in the thread is that refs will look for a pinky finger level contact on the head and penalise it.