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David Gallop says second NRL team in south-east Queensland on cards

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http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25286758-10389,00.html

David Gallop says second NRL team in south-east Queensland on cards
Article from: The Courier-Mail

By Paul Malone

April 04, 2009 12:00am

RUGBY league boss David Gallop has made his strongest tip yet on the NRL's expansion plans, saying a team in the growing Ipswich-Logan corridor is "on the cards".

The success of Queensland's NRL teams as the competition's crowd-drawing heartland leaves a team to Brisbane city's southwest and south well placed to win a prized licence also being chased by contenders including NSW's Central Coast, New Zealand and Perth.

Gallop, the NRL chief executive, this week calculatedly fanned the fires of speculation of expansion when the AFL was able to finally commit to sustained multimillion-dollar investment in a Gold Coast team.

Elsewhere, the AFL is all but married to the idea of going next to Sydney's west with an 18th team, possibly in 2012, while determined Tasmanians have built an alternative case for that licence limited by population numbers.

Australian rugby union is expected to take its 15th Super team to Melbourne, content in being the biggest player among Australia's football competitions not to have a team on the Gold Coast.

And all the machinations in the past 12 months, including the AFL's conditional invitation to a Gold Coast team to join in 2011, are aimed at providing extra product to increase, or at least consolidate, television revenue in challenging financial times.

An 18-team AFL competition would critically provide one more game a round, nine, for its television rights deal.

In July 2007, The Courier-Mail revealed that Gallop was eyeing a team to Brisbane's west as ideal expansion territory, giving Queensland a fourth NRL team.

Gallop then favoured an expansion window to open within 10 years, but not within five years - that is, by 2012.

Asked yesterday if an NRL team from the Ipswich-Logan corridor was more important to league now the AFL had charged into the Gold Coast, Gallop said: "We have said for some time that the corridor west of Brisbane is an area we are very interested in.

"We got a team up at the Gold Coast (in 2007) before the other codes and the same sort of strategic move in the area you suggested has got to be on the cards."

A team there would stake out another growth area for league while admittedly preaching to the converted, rather than Perth or Wellington.

The NRL would most likely expand from 16 to 18 clubs, to avoid a weekly bye, in time for the NRL's new television deal, which is up for grabs for the 2013 season.

"Our current project is looking at the optimal competition structure to maximise our rights deal. I would be surprised if the strength of the game in southeast Queensland doesn't come out as a major plus for the game," Gallop said.

Gallop's words feed ambitions which have been there for years. A Logan City bid to enter Australia's main league competition was first tabled to the ARL in 1993, even before the Crushers' short-lived life.

A third team in southeast Queensland could give Suncorp Stadium an NRL game every weekend of the NRL season, unless the management of a new Ipswich-Logan team could exert the pressure to persuade Queensland's stadium-loving politicians to stump up millions for yet another venue on their own patch.

Asked this week by Big League about a 17th team, the first area Gallop named was Gosford, on NSW's Central Coast.

The Central Coast's cause has been championed for years by a Sydney media which could not find Ipswich or Logan with a cut lunch and a compass, nor care. It has kept on a low flame the issue of a relocation by a Sydney team in now more trying economic conditions.

"Any relocation would have to be one where the club made a full blown commitment to the area, with players living and training there, with a plan to engage the local community. Our offer is still on the table for Gosford, in particular," Gallop told The Courier-Mail.

The Sunshine Coast, which fields a Queensland Cup team helped by the placements of reserve players from NRL premiers Manly, is an area with similar attractions and limitations to the NSW Central Coast, but does not have a suitable stadium already.

"The Sunshine Coast can only get bigger with families who love our game so a team located there is also a possibility down the track," Gallop said.

Of Australia's four football codes, rugby union is next to sign a new television rights deal. The Super 14 competition's deal expires at the end of next year, with the AFL's $780 million, five-year television agreement ending in 2011. Football Australia's contract with Fox Sports is until 2013.

Two extra NRL teams would give Gallop and his board more product with which to improve on the current television deal, worth a reported $500 million over six years.

AFL chief operating officer Gillon McLachlan said this week he would like to think the AFL's next set of broadcast rights would net a billion dollars.

"We certainly think they are worth significantly more than we are currently receiving," McLachlan told Melbourne's Herald Sun newspaper.
 

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yipppeee, another NSW and Q'land team. RL's ambitions know no boundaries (well only geographical ones!)
 

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The next teams in have to be the Reds and Bears. The stadiums are there and the structure is mostly set up.

2012 isn't that far away and for a team to be actually playing in the NRL by then you'd think that they'd need to have at least started a bid team by now. The only bids who have been making the right noises are the Reds and the Bears.

"We certainly think they are worth significantly more than we are currently receiving," McLachlan told Melbourne's Herald Sun newspaper.
This is exactly what Gallop should be saying ffs.
 

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yipppeee, another NSW and Q'land team. RL's ambitions know no boundaries (well only geographical ones!)

To be fair Gallop didn't say anything we haven't known for the last couple of years. They're keeping an eye on the massive growth area in Brisbane's west. The rest is speculation by a QLD RL journo.
 

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Everyone knows the NRL has consistently sold itself short in TV negotiations. But will there be any great increase in funding without extra teams, or relocated teams? That has to be doubtful, given the evidence of past negotiations. That means the only hope of gaining an increase in TV income is by having teams in different markets.

Does a Central Coast team bring in new tv viewers? If the answer is no then the TV companies aren't going to make any extra money from advertising, so they aren't going to pay any more money to the NRL for the right to show matches. Same question applies to the other potential new teams - SE Queensland? Perth? Wellington?

Which, if any, of these teams would bring in new, additional, TV rvenue? That's the only question that needs to be considered.
 

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Which, if any, of these teams would bring in new, additional, TV rvenue? That's the only question that needs to be considered.

TV viewing figures in WA for RL at the moment are about 10-20,000 per game. This is with zero profile for RL in WA and games on at 1am. I see no reason why, with a well run NRL Reds team and games on at a decent time, we wouldn't get 125-175,000 audiences for games. That is a total audience increase over a season of some 7million viewers! I would think that would be quite an attractive proposition for a TV station.

Also that is a total new audience that sponsors at both a club and game level are exposed to. Must be worth a few $'s extra for every club i would have thought.
 
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An extra game per round means extra content. This of course raises the value of the rights.

The people watching these extra hours of content don't need to come from a new market for the rights to be worth more, they just need to be watching and the TV companies and potential advertisers need to be confident that they will.

You can bet that they're more confident viewers will want to watch extra Queensland derbies and a team from the Central Coast than they are of the NRL building audiences in untapped markets.

There's also the small matter of the NRL being more confident of new teams being successful where there's an existing demand.

I want the game to expand to new markets and I'm disappointed that they're pretty obviously not thinking that way - but I can understand the low-risk strategy to raise the rights and bring in self-sustaining teams that they're running with. It's not altogether ridiculous.
 

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Heres a sketch of what the upgraded MES in Perth will look like:

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Main improvement is the building of a new main stand. This will increase corporate boxes and increase capacity to around 25,000

Fingers crossed it is in this years budget!
 

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looking at how the broncos and titans crowds dwarf the pathetic sydney crowds, the answer is no.
Broncos , yes.

Titans? Their biggest crowd this year was 19k. The roosters,Souths and Saints have had a bigger home attendace than that.
 

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SO in fact he mentioned more than just SEQ...
 

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Article should say 3rd team. Last time I checked, there were already two teams in SE QLD
 

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I don't like the idea of another SE QLD team so soon after the Titans, they should be given a few years to get truly set in. I don't like the idea of splintering the Broncos fanbase. Not to mention the fact that the Bears and Reds both have a couple of years or more of solid preparation behind them, so are miles ahead in this regard. CC and Perth need to be the next in
 

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Central Coast needs to have a team, it would bring in alot of support form people who are not Newcastle fans in the area. Soccer is starting to take over in the CC. It would also create an extra local derby between them and Newy. Qld probably deserve another team, Whether that sould be in SE QLD is another question.

The NRL do need to start looking west, but tbh I think a WA is still probably a few years away, it also needs to be marketed properly, which means big investers are required (like western force). A PNG, Fiji or Pasific Island team also should be on the cards, but probably about 10 years away. For the NRL to become the truley national sport needs to have probably 20+ teams.
 

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The NRL do need to start looking west, but tbh I think a WA is still probably a few years away, it also needs to be marketed properly, which means big investers are required (like western force). .

2013 is a few years away!

What we need is the game on FTA, some supportive funding to get more NRL games to Perth and continued support from the ARL to get into the NSW cup and continue the boom in jnr players.

Back to Brisbane, another team is inevitable but as said lets give the Titans more foundation time before we set up another competitor to them.
 

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