DeBellin

[Evil Emperor Zurg]

Vaughan is a repeat offender.
JDB is not. No way he’s going anywhere.

 

[Dorothy the Winowhore]

He lied to the club when questioned and hid from the police

He broke the COVID rules as mandated by the NRL after other players from other clubs had previously broken the COVID rules.

Arrogant, stupid, self centred Moron.

Unfortunately he is not the only Moron in our playing ranks.

And how many of them other players were sacked by their clubs?

 

[Blood Shot Eyes]

He lied to the club when questioned and hid from the police

He broke the COVID rules as mandated by the NRL after other players from other clubs had previously broken the COVID rules.

Arrogant, stupid, self centred Moron.

Unfortunately he is not the only Moron in our playing ranks.

Doesn't the above apply to others that were there as well....Im sure others lied hid or took off, broke Covid rules are arrogant stupid self centred morons .....so then we should sack them all ????

 

[Saints Forever]

Doesn't the above apply to others that were there as well....Im sure others lied hid or took off, broke Covid rules are arrogant stupid self centred morons .....so then we should sack them all ????

Absolutely

Unfortunately PV Had two previous conduct breaches

3 strikes and u are out

 

[Saints Forever]

And how many of them other players were sacked by their clubs?

Understand your frustration

I am upset we have lost PV too.

But he has breached his contract 3 times.

Every player that lied to the police and or the NRL deserve the same medicine for bringing our club into disrepute.

 

[Dorothy the Winowhore]

Understand your frustration

I am upset we have lost PV too.

But he has breached his contract 3 times.

Every player that lied to the police and or the NRL deserve the same medicine for bringing our club into disrepute.

Mate, not upset about Vaughan....have been a fan of his, but it is his own doing, 3 strikes. Just think it is harsh people saying Jack should be sacked too, after 1 strike.

 

[Saints Forever]

Mate, not upset about Vaughan....have been a fan of his, but it is his own doing, 3 strikes. Just think it is harsh people saying Jack should be sacked too, after 1 strike.

Just wish they had all immediately shown contrition and apologised instead of trying to cover up their stupid mistake.

 

[Evil Emperor Zurg]

oh yeah the first strike was only a little indiscretion that stuffed up our club for 3 years and our salary cap..

Not guilty. Therefore not a strike.

 

[Dorothy the Winowhore]

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Judge, jury, executioner. He was not found guilty....the NRL stuffed us for those 3 years.

 

[Gourley's Socks]

So your first line is alluding to what exactely.....

It's a correct observation of how our legal system works. A person may enjoy the presumption of innocence but they arent found "innocent" - they are found "not guilty" and as such, the presumption stands.

But that's still different to being proven innocent or as in this situation, not even reaching the threshold of not guilty.

For the record, I don't think the prior case should factor into calculations here. But I do think the fact the club stood by him and subsequently upgraded his contract means he should be indebted to them beyond what his behaviour has demonstrated.

 

[Blood Shot Eyes]

It's a correct observation of how our legal system works. A person may enjoy the presumption of innocence but they arent found "innocent" - they are found "not guilty" and as such, the presumption stands.

But that's still different to being proven innocent or as in this situation, not even reaching the threshold of not guilty.

For the record, I don't think the prior case should factor into calculations here. But I do think the fact the club stood by him and subsequently upgraded his contract means he should be indebted to them beyond what his behaviour has demonstrated.

Thanks for your comments....my point in all of this sorry saga is not a defence of Jack Debelin I have been scathing in condemnation of ALL of these guilty players for their mindless selfish actions that have brought shame on our club....and I agree, and you are correct his behaviour has not demonstrated that he wants do the right thing for his club in this instance ..I have never disputed that.....but I just think for some on here and in the media that they are bringing into calculations his prior case history of which the charges were dropped.....basically all we have heard since this story broke is Paul Vaughan and in the same breath Jack DeBelin.....

 

[Gourley's Socks]

.....basically all we have heard since this story broke is Paul Vaughan and in the same breath Jack DeBelin.....

Yeah that's a fair point. There's no doubt in my mind there was a bevy of sub-editors positively wetting themselves at the slug line possibilities with suggestions JDB hid beneath a bed.

But I think part of it too is that for some right but mostly wrong reasons, he has a profile that others don't have. Even non-NRL fans recognise the name and that's going to drive a lot more clicks than "Kaide who?"

 

[Lats13]

Can you explain to me then why he hid if he knew he wasn't doing anything wrong?

 

[Walpole]

There's so much more to whether a player is good for a club than if they're a good player. Pity some people can't see that.

 

[Gourley's Socks]

Thats the only point I was really making , It gives the club a very easy out especially if his form is not up to scratch

Good point. And a similar one to made by one of the Fox talking heads as well in that PV was dumped and JDB was not because he's a better player. The club was rumoured to want to move PV on - he just made it very easy for them to do so.

I'd imagine the same may occur with JDB in the case of a future breach.