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Do Pirates and Bears know something we don't?

Perth Red

Perth Red

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I find it very strange that there has been absolutely no news out of the Pirates and Bears bid camps for 12 months. Compared to the amount of generated media before this year and considering the NRL is reviewing expansion end of 2014 anybody else wondering why that is? Do the WARL and CC Bears know something and have been asked to stop putting expansion stories in the press until the end of next year comes?
 
The Great Dane

The Great Dane

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IMO both of these bids are about as ready as they're ever going to be so there's probably no big breakthroughs to announce or anything like that at the moment, all in all it's pretty much just a waiting game both these bids which may have contributed the silence you are talking about.

But you're right many of the bids that should be taking every opportunity they can to talk themselves up in the media have been eerily silent for quite a while now, maybe the NRL has asked them to keep things quite for the time being? Or as you say maybe they know something that we don't know.

Whatever the answer it's unlikely we'll ever find out.
 
I Bleed Maroon

I Bleed Maroon

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Perth needs to be in asap. CC Bears? Only if it means another NSW club goes. How pissed off the other bids would be if yet another NSW team got the license over them.
 
BrisVegas

BrisVegas

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I believe the lack of talk by the expansion bid teams can be put down to the ARLC/NRL finally taking charge of the expansion agenda and providing clarification about how and when this will take place.

Under the NewsLtd/ARL & Gallop regime the strategy seemed to encourage any and all bidders to constantly promote their desire to join the NRL, even if the game's administration had no desire or plan to add teams to the competition - they just seemed to like the attention and free press that was generated.

Under Dave Smith & the ARLC the message has been quite clear - A long term strategic plan will be formulated by the end of 2014 detailing what they believe the ideal make-up of the first grade competition will be over the coming decades.

All the expansion bids now know that the ARLC won't be discussing expansion for another 12 months, so running to the press with claims like "Ice Hockey is going to take over Alice Springs if they aren't immediately granted an NRL license" can easily be shot-down by a simple statement that expansion will be addressed at the conclusion of the 2014 season.

I wouldn't be surprised if this sub-forum was incredibly active this time next year however!
 
joshie

joshie

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I wish people weren't so devoted to the Bears. They aren't needed and won't get in.
 
Hello, I'm The Doctor

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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joshie said:
I wish people weren't so devoted to the Bears. They aren't needed and won't get in.
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I reckon, once they are officially killed off (if that happens), people will be able to move on. Some people will obviously leave the game forever, but they will no longer be in the way of another team (Manly/Roosters/Souths) investing in the Bears old area, and that is where the "healing" will come from.

Sure, some fans are inextricably attached to the Bears, but is is massively overstated what they offer that other teams couldn't.
 
Ourimbah Magpies

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Why no Bears, why should the league ignore a rugby league heartland like the Central Coast, how are the Roosters juniors going, how secure are the Gold Coast Titans, how about the Cronulla Sharks in the middle of St George territory, its a joke. Yes let a WA side enter the NRL only for it to consist of 100% of players from NSW and QLD for their first 10 years like Melbourne huh yeah makes real sense ?. Things have died down since the ARLC announced that they wouldn't be looking at expansion until the end of 2014, the Bears have gone into hibernation though Flo (Greg Florimo) has met with Todd Greenberg as recently as December 18 2013. Again nothing concrete was said and wont be until mid 2014 when the bid battle starts to heat up again. The Central Coast Bears easily had the best bid through out the 2010 and 2011 seasons but because the NRL have kept moving the goal posts again and again it has allowed and is allowing other rival bids to catch up. Will the Bears be successful who knows, probably not if I am being realistic, two years ago if I was asked the same question it would have been a resounding yes. Who knows what the future holds when the NRL doesn't know themselves.
 
Hello, I'm The Doctor

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Ourimbah Magpies said:
Why no Bears, why should the league ignore a rugby league heartland like the Central Coast, how are the Roosters juniors going, how secure are the Gold Coast Titans, how about the Cronulla Sharks in the middle of St George territory, its a joke. Yes let a WA side enter the NRL only for it to consist of 100% of players from NSW and QLD for their first 10 years like Melbourne huh yeah makes real sense ?.
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This is the entire point of adding a team to Perth or Melbourne. Put a local team their full of the best players from the heartlands to advertise the sport to the locals of these far flung destinations.

Slater, Cronk and Cam Smith are all Queenslanders, but playing for the Storm mean the city can claim them as their own. This entire generation of kids playing RL in the victorian systems would have been inspired by these NSW and QLD players. Its only after that first 10 years of importing players that the investment will start to produce local juniors.

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WA side enter the NRL only for it to consist of 100% of players from NSW and QLD for their first 10 years like Melbourne
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thats how you have to do it.


Things have died down since the ARLC announced that they wouldn't be looking at expansion until the end of 2014, the Bears have gone into hibernation though Flo (Greg Florimo) has met with Todd Greenberg as recently as December 18 2013. Again nothing concrete was said and wont be until mid 2014 when the bid battle starts to heat up again. The Central Coast Bears easily had the best bid through out the 2010 and 2011 seasons but because the NRL have kept moving the goal posts again and again it has allowed and is allowing other rival bids to catch up. Will the Bears be successful who knows, probably not if I am being realistic, two years ago if I was asked the same question it would have been a resounding yes. Who knows what the future holds when the NRL doesn't know themselves.
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Best by default of being the only completed bid doesnt say great things about the organisation.

The fact that they have lost so much ground so quickly to the other bids, despite being 5 years more advanced shows how poorly thought out the bidding location actually was.

A shitty frachise could be placed in Brisbane and still be more successful than a CC tea, for no other reason than location.
 
reanimate

reanimate

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Ourimbah Magpies said:
Why no Bears, why should the league ignore a rugby league heartland like the Central Coast, how are the Roosters juniors going, how secure are the Gold Coast Titans, how about the Cronulla Sharks in the middle of St George territory, its a joke.
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You're calling the Sharks situation a joke, yet you're advocating the introduction of the CC Bears, a team which would claim the North Shore and the Central Coast as part of its territory, leaving Manly in an almost identical situation. The Sharks situation is a joke, which is one of the reasons as to why the CC Bears bid is a bad idea- the NRL isn't going to risk having another Cronulla-type situation on their hands when they could instead introduce Brisbane 2, Perth or NZ 2, all far bigger, far more appealing markets.
 
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