Do we keep Sandow?

[EelsFan05]

Eventually but there were times our attack looked woeful immediately when he came off. As I said, Norman played well but Sandow wasn't the reason we were behind... forgive me if I find people scapegoating Sandow hilarious considering the Dogs had 99.99 percent of the ball in the first half before Sandow got injured. What did you want him to do in his time uninjured, conjure the ball into his hands and transform a side that wasn't tired from all the defending?

Sandow wasn't the reason we lost, but he played his part. Of course our attack was woeful immediately after he came off. It caused a reshuffle in our attack. Once Norman adjusted we came back and hit the lead. Plus, Norman threw a great pass for our first try. Sandow had zero try assists. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good yarn.

Also, I think its hilarious that in three and a bit seasons Sandow has never been responsible for a loss in some people's eyes here. Even Hindmarsh, a club legend who busted his arse for more then three hundred games, was crucified by some. But while Sandow was sitting at the poker machines or running around for Wenty it was never his fault.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Instead of applauding Sandow for remarkably even coming back (he would still be injured today because he had a needle), some are trying to blame him for a performance he had little control of after an excellent display with Norman last week. Just calm down it's Round 2

Nobody's blaming Sandow. We're just pointing out that he didn't contribute to our comeback, and he has a weakness that is easy to exploit (his defence) and another weakness that is easy for teams with strong packs to exploit (he is ineffective without good go-forward).

 

[Swiftstylez]

Not having a bench didn't contribute to our comeback, I don't think Sandow should have even come back. Having go forward is a must for any halfback, on a normal day with this forward pack our halves are going to have it a lot easier this year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Having go forward is a must for any halfback

No it isn't. While they obviously play better with strong go-forward, big halves like Pearce, Cronk and Foran can still produce behind a beaten pack. That's because when their options are closed down they can just dig into the line and still manage a quick play-the-ball. When Sandow tries that he gets ragdolled for ten metres and momentum transfers to the defending team.

 

[Twizzle]

depends on so many other things and player movements and cap space

 

[Glenn]

You girls need to calm down and get a little perspective last week tonne of love for Sandow this week he needs to go? I would hate to be i trenches with anyone of u......yes I would keep him.

Amen, I know being a Parramatta supporter can be a Roller coaster ride, but Sandow is MUST keep imo he has shown the ability time and time again to set up tries or score tries, there is no reason to get rid of him.
Norman to Fullback in 2016, Hopoate to the Centres, and Foran/Sandow as the 5/8, Half combo.

 

[Glenn]

Like I said after last week's game, Sandow is one of the best playmakers in the game when his pack dominates. When they don't he's a liability.

You could say the same about any halfback running around. :crazy:

 

[Avenger]

Crazy talk about getting rid of Sandow seeing that neither Foran or Norman play on the right.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You could say the same about any halfback running around. :crazy:

No you couldn't. While every playmaker goes better when his forwards win the fight, Sandow is more dependent on that than any other. That's why his best is so great and his worst so poor.

And you can't count on winning in the middle every week, even with a good pack. Especially at the end of the year when the good packs usually cancel each other out.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Crazy talk about getting rid of Sandow seeing that neither Foran or Norman play on the right.

If they're our halves next year then one of them will play on the right.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Crazy talk about getting rid of Sandow seeing that neither Foran or Norman play on the right.

Related to that, I've never really understood the importance of having a left-foot kicker play on the left and a right-foot kicker on the right. If anything, I would've thought they'd go better on opposite sides. You'd lose a small amount of time to kick the ball but the angle you're kicking from would be slightly improved. And as a bonus, a right-foot kicker on the left is likely to have a better right-to-left passing game and vice versa for the left-footer.

Perhaps some of you footy brains can explain?

 

[Casper The Ghost]

How about they just learn to be very good at playing what is in front of them.
Players who master this skill don't give a f**k if they are right or left hand passers or kickers.
They don't have mental gymnastics (I'm a right footer/hander so I better move over here in readiness) to contend with and are free to deliver what's required in the moment.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Related to that, I've never really understood the importance of having a left-foot kicker play on the left and a right-foot kicker on the right. If anything, I would've thought they'd go better on opposite sides. You'd lose a small amount of time to kick the ball but the angle you're kicking from would be slightly improved. And as a bonus, a right-foot kicker on the left is likely to have a better right-to-left passing game and vice versa for the left-footer.

Perhaps some of you footy brains can explain?

The kicking foot is further away from the kick pressure (usually the markers). Plus if (when) the kicker needs to kick on the run it is easier to kick across your body than to kick the other way (with the outside of the boot).

 

[jono]

I'm curious to know if Corey Norman is left or right-handed.
Because he kicks with his left foot , passes well from left to right , but has thrown two of the best cut-out passes from right to left to Semi I've ever seen....last year v Melbourne and last week v Manly.
Of course I understand that at that level, players (particularly playmakers) SHOULD be able to pass both ways, just as AFL players are expected to be able to kick with either foot.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

The kicking foot is further away from the kick pressure (usually the markers). Plus if (when) the kicker needs to kick on the run it is easier to kick across your body than to kick the other way (with the outside of the boot).

Thanks. I hadn't really considered the kicking across your body/outside of foot thing.

 

[Chipmunk]

The kicking foot is further away from the kick pressure (usually the markers). Plus if (when) the kicker needs to kick on the run it is easier to kick across your body than to kick the other way (with the outside of the boot).

Isn't Foran a right foot kicker?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isn't Foran a right foot kicker?

Yeah, just like most kickers. I'd even say most left side playmakers kick with their right foot. The exceptions I can think of are:

Soward
Norman
Keating
Roberts
Sutton
Brooks
Mullen

All play on the left side.

 

[Chipmunk]

Yeah, just like most kickers. I'd even say most left side playmakers kick with their right foot. The exceptions I can think of are:

Soward
Norman
Keating
Roberts
Sutton
Brooks
Mullen

All play on the left side.

Well from what I have seen of Foran also I would say he has the natural passing game to also competently pass the ball from left to right. I would also say that he will handle tackling on the right side in defence with ease, which I regard harder to defend than on the left.

I'd definitely play him on the right side if he comes next year, even if Sandow and Norman are both still here.

 

[jason taylor]

I'd keep Sandow, he's our most complete half back since Jason Taylor.

 

[Chipmunk]

I'd keep Sandow, he's our most complete half back since Jason Taylor.

Id actually say Jason Taylor was a better defender.