Do you agree with Blacktip's comments?

[blacktip-reefy]

Actually it is the other way around.
For Australia, Johns is MIA. Gower too. & barrett.

Best 2 players for Australia over the last few years have 2 of my least favourite players in Noddy & Minni. I really dislike their styles of play. But they got the results every time with 1st class performances.

Noddy has not made it at Origin level & Johns has.

In club games, Noddy has always been ahead of Johns in every match up since 99.
(excluding northern eagles.)

Johns biggest problem is not his injuries, its his huge unfit fat guts.

 

[millersnose]

yeah and? its CLUB level. When it comes to origin and australia Noddy is MIA.
Johns has had three big injuries
2002...back
2003...neck
2004...knee
Knights would have almost won the comp 2002.
Whilst i am no fan of Johns, he is 10000x better than noddy.
"all over him on most occasions"...sounds like mundine talk.
What about the rest of his career. Origin? plays like Tolsen Tollet

tell me charlie as you seem "knowledgable"

what was the biggest score ever against a johns captained side?

who was the half in the other team?

how many points did that half score?

who was man of the match?

 

[King of the Hill]

anyone who says johns has it over noddy in club games, hasnt watched the sharks v knights games in that period

 

[Isurus]

Charlie - your bagging of Noddy was valid when you were focussing on Origin, but when you say he is MIA when he plays for Australia, I lose respect for your opinions.

Noddy has played out of skin for Australia in the recent past.

 

[Mr Saab]

tell me charlie as you seem "knowledgable"

what was the biggest score ever against a johns captained side?

who was the half in the other team?

how many points did that half score?

who was man of the match?

yes yes...2002 64-14 shark park...noddy scored 28 points. point of the matter is what? Its only ONE game. If you are trying to say that Kimmorley is a better player than Johns then you really are a biased person...very biased.
Has johns been caught out in rep games in the past 7 yrs? I dont think so. He has performed good to great. No f**k ups like kimmorley. Johns can adjust to how a game is played...noddy is screwed if the game changes one bit.

 

[millersnose]

oh i thought we were talking about club games

if you want to back away thats ok..........

 

[Mr Saab]

Charlie - your bagging of Noddy was vlaid when you were focussing on Origin, but when you say he is MIA when he plays for Australia, I lose respect for your opinions.

Noddy has played out of skin for Australia in the recent past.

really? where was MR kimmorley when lockyer was injured in the tri series last yr vs the poms? It was hill and kimmorley, the old storm connection. What happened? they lost. Lockyer comes back TAKES CONTROL and australia smash the poms 38-0 in one half of football.
Kimmorley cannot tie Lockyer or Johns shoelaces.
When its time to stand up and "join" the upper echelon of halfbacks in recent yrs he has been found wanting. Origin is the big one, you are playing against the best players in the world. Where is noddy? playing with his lego blocks. Face it, noddy is nothing but a great club player...not a great rep player.

 

[Mr Sharkie]

Ok here's my point of view:

Did Noddy have a poor game last night?
Yes

At club level and head to head has Noddy been better than Johns?
1000x Yes

Did Noddy's forwards help him at all?
No

Does a bad game at Rep level make a player a poor player fullstop?
No

Was this thread worth starting?
No. The "We Support You Noddy" Thread debated his performance with much more eloquence and wasn't started as thinly-veiled sabre-rattling in an escolating personal fued. Both sides are valid points but have stopped arguing them in favour of ego trip. (In this thread that has been more true of MS but overall it's been pretty even.)

 

[blacktip-reefy]

. Face it, noddy is nothing but a great club player...not a great rep player.

Through your extremes, Ithink most people agree with you.
But you are wrong on the international matches.
That loss was after OZ were on the piss the night before big time.

As a side note, I know people who went on the tour & they told me even they were booing Kimmorely. He won man of the match in that game.

I can only ask again , why does he poloarise people in such a way?

Why do you hate him so much Charlie to continue posting in here all day?

 

[MightySharks]

Mr Sharkie fair enough you have had your say.
Three Questions
1. Is Kimmorley arrogant?
2. Is he predictable?
3. Can he pass both ways?

 

[Mr Saab]

Through your extremes, Ithink most people agree with you.
But you are wrong on the international matches.
That loss was after OZ were on the piss the night before big time.

As a side note, I know people who went on the tour & they told me even they were booing Kimmorely. He won man of the match in that game.

I can only ask again , why does he poloarise people in such a way?

Why do you hate him so much Charlie to continue posting in here all day?

everyone boos kimmorley. The way he sold himself to the highest bidder in 2000 really pi$$ed me and others off. I dont like andrew johns either, (very different reasons) but i know the guy is class and is a match winner.

 

[Surely]

No I don't but i don't agree with you calling him a f@#king wanker over them.
If he was a dragons supporter, (oh or broncos), by all means feel free.

His opinion and he's entitled to it.

 

[carcharias]

The way he sold himself to the highest bidder in 2000 really pi$$ed me

Why do you care at all what he does?
I dont get it . Who gives a toss?

Tiquiri did the exact same thing, do you hate him to?

I know I would take the biggest pay packet every time.

A.Johns has pretty much farked his own team by staying there.

They can't afford to keep anyone else.

"Nodddy is the greatest player to have ever worn the Sharks jersey"

Now I'm going home now , it's been a very tough day here in the office.
No beer tonight for this little black duck.

 

[Mr Saab]

noddy is the greatest ever to have worn a sharks jersey? WTF?

What about Rogers, ET, Peachey?

 

[Isurus]

.... Face it, noddy is nothing but a great club player...not a great rep player.

If memory serves me correctly, Noddy was won man of the series awards when playing for Australia.
I also recall Freddy Fitler's newspaper article saying Noddy was MOM in this years test v the Kiwis. But who's Freddy to have an opinion on who can play the game?

Keep your argument to Origin, and Origin only, and we will all agree with you!!!

 

[carcharias]

"Noddy is the greatest player to have ever worn the Sharks jersey"

here you go copy and paste it in your sig.

I'm not afraid to make the big calls.


"Those others where good but Noddy will deliver the one thing they couldn't".

bugger it ...quote that one to.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Stepping into a minefield there carch.
ET is light years ahead in my book, even if Noddy is in the GF winning team, which may include Peach & Stevo.
Then Sludge, Tommy & maybe BK i he wins the GF.
ET was the greatest league player ever. & I have the proof.

 

[Sutho_Sharks]

but he has every right to state what he thinks

the whole point of this forum is information and ideas exchange

True! The thing is, does the person in question allow other people to express their views, whether they be positive (which he brands as fluffy) or negative. Its one thing to have a civilised free flowing discussion, its a totally other thing to use one liners in order to harass other members because their opinions dont match with Mr Rights!

 

[carcharias]

Stepping into a minefield there carch

Look up 2 inches.

I'm living the dream.

 

[Mr Saab]

"Noddy is the greatest player to have ever worn the Sharks jersey"

here you go copy and paste it in your sig.

I'm not afraid to make the big calls.


"Those others where good but Noddy will deliver the one thing they couldn't".

bugger it ...quote that one to.

so what noddy has done in 3 1/2 yrs is better than what ET did for 18 yrs for the sharks? If noddy doesnt deliver a comp (odds are he wont) then where will he be placed in your sharks list of greats?