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strong_latte

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Anyway all this talk of league fans in love with NFL is making me sick, go watch the padded twinkies if you like, I'll stick with the real mens games, Rugby League and Rugby Union.
 

JW

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go watch the padded twinkies

Yes, well alot of Union players are naturally padded twinkies and have no need to anything artificial ie. Matt Dunning.

:lol:

Cheers.
 
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strong_latte said:
The Rugby World Cup was watched by more people in more country's around the world than the super bowl mate. It was Ranked the 3 biggest sporting event in the world after the Soccer and Olympics.

I already said it did well once.

And again, if it was the third most watched sporting event ever, you should be able to back that statement up quite easily from an independent source.

You keep thinking that your word is acceptable.

It isn't.
 

strong_latte

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Yeah? And where the f**k have your sources been all this time???? I don't recall any!

To quote a moron: "your words mean nothing"

Good night.
 

JW

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It was Ranked the 3 biggest sporting event in the world after the Soccer and Olympics.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, yes, and I fondly remember John O'Niel claiming it would be watched around the world by 3 billion people :lol:
 
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strong_latte said:
Yeah? And where the f**k have your sources been all this time???? I don't recall any!

To quote a moron: "your words mean nothing"

Good night.

Sources for what?

That Ricky Stuart took 3 years in League to play reps?

http://www.actsport.com.au/fame/2003_inductees.htm

That one NFL player played in the NSWRL and was brought here by ..... wait for it.....

Jack Gibson?

http://rl1908.com/rugby-league/NFL.htm

What else do you want.

NFL salary cap?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1510617.html
 

russ13

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On the RUWC final TV audience here is a reference

England’s triumph over Australia was watched by a live global audience of about 25 million people, a report stated yesterday. Initiative, the world’s largest communications agency, which collates viewing figures, said that 22 million people in the British Isles, France, Italy, Romania, Australia, New Zealand and Argentina saw the whole of the game. This included an audience of 12.3 million in Britain, a figure that rose to 14.5 million at the end.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7995-912529,00.html
 

russ13

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here is another quote from an economist John Quiggan about last year's unionWC;

Having watched a bit of the Rugby World Cup, and read a little bit about it, I've reached the conclusion (not an original one) that the structure is radically defective. Most of the games I've seen so far have had all the tension of the annual grudge match between the Brisbane Lions and the Toowong Under 12s (Reserves). There are only half a dozen teams that are serious contenders,and, as I understand it, the pool + elimination final setup means most of them will never play each other. Meanwhile, we get to watch game after game with scorelines like 300 to minus 10.

What's needed here is two top pools of four (the finalists from the previous cup) with the bottom team in each pool eliminated after the pool matches, and two second division pools with the top qualifiers making it through to the finals. This would mean that most of the interesting matches would actually be played.

Then there's the estimate that 4 billion people will watch the Cup. Those who've seen such statistics in the past know that this is calculated by counting the same people over and over again as they watch different matches. Even so, there are no more than 40 games scheduled, implying an average audience of 100 million. The only hard number I've seen is the Australian audience for Australia's first game, against Argentina, which was about 2 million. Let's be very generous and suppose that the same number of people watched in Argentina (a soccer-mad country where rubgy is the pastime of a tiny minority). That still leaves us short 96 million - presumably these are people who are passionate enough about rugby to watch a game in which they have no direct interest. Where in the world are that many rugby fans going to be found? The New Zealanders, Pacific Islanders and the Welsh are pretty keen, as are white South Africans, but that's only about ten million people altogether. Rugby is a significant minority sport in the rest of the British Isles and in France and you might get another ten million potential viewers there. The US and Japan may have teams here, but I doubt that the average American or Japanese is even aware that the Cup is being played.

To sum up, if you supposed that the entire rugby-following population of the world, men, women and children, all watched every match, you might get something approaching a billion viewers in total. I'd guess, though, that a realistic estimate is closer to 100 million.

Posted by jquiggin at October 26, 2003 04:15 PM | TrackBack

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Well called John. The union world cup opening cermony had a total world audience of 10 million. The final has a world audience of 22 million & ignoring the viewers in the country who played in the final about 3 to 4 million watched the this game.

Argentina's average viewing audience for each RUWC game averaged 19,000. (These figures were from an article in the London Times (Online edition-19 December 2003)who quoted Initiative a company that tracks these world wide audiences.)

The question has to be asked how did they get away with it?

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russ13 said:
On the RUWC final TV audience here is a reference

England’s triumph over Australia was watched by a live global audience of about 25 million people, a report stated yesterday. Initiative, the world’s largest communications agency, which collates viewing figures, said that 22 million people in the British Isles, France, Italy, Romania, Australia, New Zealand and Argentina saw the whole of the game. This included an audience of 12.3 million in Britain, a figure that rose to 14.5 million at the end.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7995-912529,00.html

Thanks for the info Russ.

strong latte said:
The Rugby World Cup was watched by more people in more country's around the world than the super bowl mate. It was Ranked the 3 biggest sporting event in the world after the Soccer and Olympics.

LOL

Super Bowl XXXVII TV audience: Last year's game was the most watched program ever with 138.9 million viewers. The 10 most-watched programs in TV history are all Super Bowls.

http://www.superbowl.com/features/general_info
 

Tighthead

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Why is it that you won't take (justifiably) the ARU's word for it on TV ratings, but you are happy to provide a cite from the official superbowl website?

(ETA) I don't doubt the figures provided by the site, I just think that it's a bit intellectually dishonest.
 

strong_latte

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Everlovin' Antichrist said:
russ13 said:
On the RUWC final TV audience here is a reference

England’s triumph over Australia was watched by a live global audience of about 25 million people, a report stated yesterday. Initiative, the world’s largest communications agency, which collates viewing figures, said that 22 million people in the British Isles, France, Italy, Romania, Australia, New Zealand and Argentina saw the whole of the game. This included an audience of 12.3 million in Britain, a figure that rose to 14.5 million at the end.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7995-912529,00.html

Thanks for the info Russ.

strong latte said:
The Rugby World Cup was watched by more people in more country's around the world than the super bowl mate. It was Ranked the 3 biggest sporting event in the world after the Soccer and Olympics.

LOL

Super Bowl XXXVII TV audience: Last year's game was the most watched program ever with 138.9 million viewers. The 10 most-watched programs in TV history are all Super Bowls.

http://www.superbowl.com/features/general_info

Your full of shit mate, 138.9 million viewers is absolutely nothing! Consdier the soccer world cup final and tell me thats a record? Now here's something you'll love, sourced info!

The 2002 FIFA World Cup Korea/Japan recorded total viewing figures in excess of 28.8 billion, while the final itself between Brazil and Germany in Yokohama attracted in excess of 1.1 billion - the largest TV audience in footballing history.

source: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/040421/1/11eq.html

And the whole tournament recorded in excess of 28 billion viewers!
 

JW

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strong latte said:
138.9 million viewers is absolutely nothing

It is compared to the 25 odd million for the Rugby Union WC which you claim to be the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.

#-o #-o #-o #-o

Cheers.
 

strong_latte

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JW said:
strong latte said:
138.9 million viewers is absolutely nothing

It is compared to the 25 odd million for the Rugby Union WC which you claim to be the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.

#-o #-o #-o #-o

Cheers.

I read different figures on that, I heard it was 240 mil!
Anyway the fact remains he tried to say the last 10 super bowls were the biggest rating programs in TV history!
WELL! Apparently the BILLION PEOPLE who watched the Fifa World Cup final disagreed with that! #-o #-o #-o #-o
 

In-goal

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I personaly would have thought the 3 largest sporting events in order would be:

1. FIFA World Cup
2. Olympic Games (Summer)
3. Cricket World Cup (Due only to the sub continent were 1.5 Billion Live)

All sports are small in comparison to football, Rugby League can't compete with football but it can live along side it.
 

strong_latte

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In-goal said:
I personaly would have thought the 3 largest sporting events in order would be:

1. FIFA World Cup
2. Olympic Games (Summer)
3. Cricket World Cup (Due only to the sub continent were 1.5 Billion Live)

All sports are small in comparison to football, Rugby League can't compete with football but it can live along side it.

Quick question in regard to your avatar. Why does it have a bulldog as opposed to a Lion holding the mighty Kangaroo (although that picture doesn't do our 35 years of dominance much justuce...)
 

russ13

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strong_latte said:
JW said:
strong latte said:
138.9 million viewers is absolutely nothing

It is compared to the 25 odd million for the Rugby Union WC which you claim to be the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.

#-o #-o #-o #-o

Cheers.

I read different figures on that, I heard it was 240 mil!
Anyway the fact remains he tried to say the last 10 super bowls were the biggest rating programs in TV history!
WELL! Apparently the BILLION PEOPLE who watched the Fifa World Cup final disagreed with that! #-o #-o #-o #-o


Actually Initiative reviewd their figures for the RUWC & reduced ther world wide audience to 22 million. I'll get the reference.

This means between 3 & 4 million outside of Australia & the UK watched the final.
 
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Tighthead said:
Why is it that you won't take (justifiably) the ARU's word for it on TV ratings, but you are happy to provide a cite from the official superbowl website?

(ETA) I don't doubt the figures provided by the site, I just think that it's a bit intellectually dishonest.

1. That isn't the only website that has the NFL's ratings.
2. I believe that is a peak figure. Most sites claim between 80 and 90 million in the USA generally.
3a. What is the figure that Union claimed as the total worldwide audience for the RUWC, wasn't it something in the billions?

4b. Divide that figure by the number of matches played, then compare it to the RUWC final's world-wide figure.

Do the math.
 
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