dogs rule out moving games to belmore despite nrl push

[bobmar28]

Why does no one use the SFS anymore?

It's too far away. Too hard to get to.

Mind you it's better than ANZ.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Parramatta Stadium would be the obvious choice.

Then the SFS. But if the team is battling it out for the wooden spoon you can't really complain about poor crowds.

SFS is the obvious choice for the Roosters feeder club

 

[bazza]

Why does no one use the SFS anymore?

ANZ pays teams $100,000 minimum per game
I think you have to pay to use the SFS

 

[God-King Dean]

stfu tim

ive spoken to people at the club about this and they could fix up belmore but there are bigger political issues at play. i won't name names but it has a lot to do with people that have been in the news lately

Oh HERE WE F*CKING GO !

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http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=149459

 

[dallymessenger]

15min walk max

yeah if you run it.

 

[bazza]

yeah if you run it.

I did the walk a few times when playing hockey next door - 15 minutes is about right

 

[dallymessenger]

I did the walk a few times when playing hockey next door - 15 minutes is about right

must be really fast walkers i guess.

 

[Perth Red]

ANZ pays teams $100,000 minimum per game
I think you have to pay to use the SFS

Doesn't mean it can't be more profitable depending on how many fans you can get in and the deal you have. Lets say it costs you 200k to hire SFS for the game but you keep all gate receipts. You get crowds of 20,000 at an average $20 a head, that is doubling your income on gate receipts. As usual the clubs look for the easy no work option, took the easy money and now face the reality of disappearing fan bases.

 

[nqboy]

Originally Posted by Inferno
Why does no one use the SFS anymore?

ANZ pays teams $100,000 minimum per game
I think you have to pay to use the SFS

How is it that SA is able to offer such good deals but the SFS can't or won't?

 

[Parra]

How is it that SA is able to offer such good deals but the SFS can't or won't?

People at SA slept through their economics classes. They must have read the first chapter of the marketing book - the one about giving samples away.

Simple answer is that these payments are unsustainable. This is obvious to anyone outside of the SA team and a few NRL club bosses.

 

[Cheesie-the-Pirate]

People at SA slept through their economics classes. They must have read the first chapter of the marketing book - the one about giving samples away.

Simple answer is that these payments are unsustainable. This is obvious to anyone outside of the SA team and a few NRL club bosses.

It's partly that (i.e. trying to attract clubs though sweet heart and probably temporary deals). It's also partly to do with advantages of scale and a different business model.

The SFS probably could do something like that, perhaps not to the same scale, but are pursuing a different strategy. This would not be surprising given ANZ Stadium is a corporate organisation and the SFS is run by a government trust.

 

[Parra]

Do you really believe that a private company is underwriting the guaranteed payments?

 

[Cheesie-the-Pirate]

Do you really believe that a private company is underwriting the guaranteed payments?

The point was more that a privately operated stadium is more likely to aggressively pursue tenants and be able to adopt more aggressive business models, which may include significant guaranteed payments.

 

[Parra]

Particularly when it is public funds getting thrown around. Aggressively pursuing tenants is one thing - handing out cash is evidence that you are at the bottom of the ideas barrel.

 

[Parra]

I would have no problem with this so-called business model if it was a private company and company funds. Their risk- their reward.

The way it is being done now is the opposite - our risk, their reward. And they are playing around with more than just public funds. They are losing fans of live footy as well - so it is both short and long term damage being done.

 

[Dogs Of War]

I would have no problem with this so-called business model if it was a private company and company funds. Their risk- their reward.

The way it is being done now is the opposite - our risk, their reward. And they are playing around with more than just public funds. They are losing fans of live footy as well - so it is both short and long term damage being done.

I'm sure that ANZ bank owns the stadium currently. It is not a publicly owned thing.

From the stadium australia website..

ANZ Stadium Corporate Structure

ANZ Stadium is operated by the Stadium Australia Group (SAG), comprising Stadium Australia Trust (SAT) and Stadium Australia Management Limited (SAM) under the terms of a Lease from the Sydney Olympic Park Authority (SOPA). In accordance with the lease, which expires on 31 January 2031, SAG is responsible for the operation, marketing and maintenance of ANZ Stadium. On expiry of the Lease, operation of the Stadium will revert to SOPA.
SAG is a wholly owned subsidiary of Stadium Investments Pty Ltd (SIPL), a company which is wholly owned by Diversified Infrastructure Trust (DIT). DIT is managed by ANZ Infrastructure Services Limited and its responsible entity is ANZ Specialist Asset Management Limited. DIT has interests in other infrastructure assets and has a range of institutional investors including ANZ.
http://www.anzstadium.com.au/AboutUs/CorporateStructure.aspx

 

[nqboy]

I thought ANZ just sponsored the ground and held the loans. I don't think they own the ground.

 

[Parra]

So where do you think the 100K per match comes from?

 

[bobmar28]

Here's an idea. The NRL buys SFS and moves games there. Better look on TV and maybe better crowds.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Here's an idea. The NRL buys SFS and moves games there. Better look on TV and maybe better crowds.

Not until the State govt can work out how to make the light rail run past the joint. Probably something the NRL, AFL and Cricket Australia should get together and lobby the state government for.