Doyle looking for answers

[SpaceMonkey]

Basic skills, discipline, and application are the major problems.

 

[mikeob]

I am near to Bundaberg. Send them up here. I think Sean Hoppe is still in this part of the world, he'll give them a heads up.

Av maximum temperature December 29.5, January 30.2.
Av rainfall December 127 mls, January 177 mls = humidity off the chart.
Av 9am temperature December 26.1, January 26.6
Av humidity @ 9 am December 66%, January 70%. Humidity around 6 - 6.30am would be in the 90's some mornings.

If training in those conditions don't toughen them up nothing will.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I've always thought heat conditioning is more of an advantage than cold. Playing on cold conditions isn't that hard unless you're talking REALLY cold (not Auckland cold, I'm talking Canberra or Christchurch on a cold day where it actually snows). You just run around a bit and you warm up, which happens anyway during sport. Or you wear a thermal under your playing strip. But if the heat is at a level where you're already uncomfortable in it before kickoff, you're in for a BAD time, there's nothing you can do to escape it.

 

[VillaTheGorilla]

It's the fundamentals. When we went on our streak in the late part of the year, our errors and penalties were low and our defensive structures were great. We won most of our games and contested the other ones. When we don't do this, we look terrible.

Players like Lisone who have 10 errors/penalties in a 5 game span in the limited minutes that he plays are some of our biggest problems. I don't mind Johnson making errors when he's trying to spark something out of nothing, but dumb penalities and rookie errors....they've killed our season

 

[Fufu Andronez]

It's the fundamentals. When we went on our streak in the late part of the year, our errors and penalties were low and our defensive structures were great. We won most of our games and contested the other ones. When we don't do this, we look terrible.

Players like Lisone who have 10 errors/penalties in a 5 game span in the limited minutes that he plays are some of our biggest problems. I don't mind Johnson making errors when he's trying to spark something out of nothing, but dumb penalities and rookie errors....they've killed our season

I totally agree with this, and would extend this lee-way to other players too eg. Matulino. I can cop an error or two from an offload that doesn't quite hit the mark or an error as a result of trying to play an up-tempo style, but the ones where you fluff the play the ball or continuously lose the ball in contact are the killers.

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

trainging in hot or cold is irrevelent
its the top 2 inches that needs working on

 

[SpaceMonkey]

That's pretty much what Ivan did. Got the team playing disciplined, low error rate footy, and the results came. For the record I don't think it'll get us a premiership by itself- we'll still probably struggle to get over the top teams consistency without some extra X factor. But it'll get us back to playing finals at least. And we need to do that before we think about premierships.

 

[TheDMC]

trainging in hot or cold is irrevelent
its the top 2 inches that needs working on

I wouldn't say irrelevant. I play touch footy here in Thailand (well did until I snapped my achilles a few months back) and for dudes, fit dudes, coming from NZ and jumping on the field for a game they are quickly knackered. Heat takes some getting used to.

So, many of our players are dumb, mentally weak, can't handle hot temps, have hands like tits, struggle with basics like distribution, generally lack game nous, and are penalty magnets. We lack big dominating bodies in the forwards and our coach is inept. Oh and the club culture sucks balls.

Well we are pretty much fooked then!

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

Do you play touch 6 days a week 48 weeks of the year. Of course you dont

These guys do and are payed friggen well to. They should have the best skill set in the league but no we suck. They need a sports pyschologist full time. Get the shrink the All Blacks use

 

[Rich102]

Do you play touch 6 days a week 48 weeks of the year. Of course you dont

These guys do and are payed friggen well to. They should have the best skill set in the league but no we suck. They need a sports pyschologist full time. Get the shrink the All Blacks use

I thought they had one!

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

trainging in hot or cold is irrevelent
its the top 2 inches that needs working on

I covered this in a study I did way back in 2000 something. I cant remember it exactly but extreme temperatures can affect an athlete. Google acclimatization.

Agree on the top 2 inches.

 

[TheDMC]

Do you play touch 6 days a week 48 weeks of the year. Of course you dont

These guys do and are payed friggen well to. They should have the best skill set in the league but no we suck. They need a sports pyschologist full time. Get the shrink the All Blacks use

Glad you answered your own question! What I meant was more in reference to slow starts to the season and that if they haven't acclimatized to, ie prepared in, hot/sticky environments, then they will likely struggle when they play games in such climates. It takes awhile.

But yeah, its not the biggest issue - more concerning is losing at home in early games as for that there is no excuse and they need serious shrinkology work on their pea-brains.

For the record - three times a week for 40 weeks of the year for the last 8 years....(probably why my achilles snapped haha).

 

[TheDMC]

It would be fascinating to go watch pre-season, early season, mid-season, and late-season training sessions at both the Storm and Warriors, and then compare notes. An actual proper observational study.

My imagination tells me that Melbourne group would be completely focused and going hard as they could with utmost use of the time in a very well prepared training environment.
In comparison, the warriors would be a mixture of giggles, bursts of focus, sulking and a dog's breakfast training organization.

Whatever the reality, pretty sure there would be some noticeable differences.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

An actual proper observational study.

Thats a lot of work. Lot of elements to cover. It goes past the visual.

 

[Fufu Andronez]

Has it been a few weeks yet? Release the results Jim

 

[Rich102]

I suspect he will leave announcing the results as long as possible. Let the anger and bad memories fade a little. Especially if he is keeping Cappy.

 

[Izz]

Doubt we'll hear anything until the finals have finished

 

[One Warrior]

I suspect he will leave announcing the results as long as possible. Let the anger and bad memories fade a little. Especially if he is keeping Cappy.

The anger won't fade here, it will just intensify the anger for me if he keeps Cappy. Jim do the right thing, sack Cappy and bring back Ivan please.

 

[TheDMC]

Thats a lot of work. Lot of elements to cover. It goes past the visual.

For sure. But they have had five years of failure to assess. After 1 year of failure the mofos should be monitoring everything they can, from game recovery - game performance - travel - training and preparation - tactics-preseason- facilities etc etc. Do a cause-effect/problem tree and work backwards to identify the root causes of why we are inconsistent on the field. Saying 'our defence sucks' is a sympton not a problem etc.

Lol, main finding may well be that our players are just a bit too dumb.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Doubt we'll hear anything until the finals have finished

Nor should we. It needs to be a very thorough review and one that produces real change, not just a bunch of talk and the same mugs involved for next year on some sort of ultimatum.

There needs to either be a player clearout or a coaching clearout. If there's neither, I can save you all the trouble of spending 24x 80mins watching us by detailing our run to 9th next year.