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Dragons approach Tony Smith

DUB888

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Tony Smith could follow in the footsteps of brother Brian after he was sounded out to coach the Dragons next year.
St George Illawarra powerbrokers first got in contact with Smith about taking over as coach in January, which effectively meant Steve Price was a dead man walking even before a ball had been kicked this season.
Lismore-born Smith, 47, a former Great Britain mentor, is enjoying success with Super League club Warrington after stints with Huddersford and Leeds. He guided the Rhinos to a win at his first season at the club and the Wolves, in fifth spot on this season's table, have been a consistent performer during his tenure.
Smith has an affinity with the joint-venture club, having played for both of its entities before they merged. A crafty five-eighth, he scored nine tries from 37 games for the Illawarra Steelers before notching 28 appearances, including the 1992 grand final, for St George under older brother Brian.
Should Smith accept the position, it would continue his family's long tradition with the Red V. Brian Smith coached 118 games between 1991 and 1995 and also held the clipboard at Illawarra for four seasons.
Those close to Smith report that he is happy with his lot at Warrington and it remains to be seen whether he would trade that in for the pressure of NRL coaching. However, Dragons officials hope the lure of returning to the famous club will be too strong.
The Dragons have elevated Paul McGregor from assistant to caretaker coach but he was reluctant to take the place of good friend Price. Officials earmarked Parramatta's Steve Murphy to fill the vacant assistant's role but it is understood he will be staying put.
Former Dragons back Joel Caine, Price's best mate, says the club could have made the finals had they stuck solid for the remainder of the season.
"I went and saw him after the Parramatta game, he hadn't been told but he pretty much knew that was it," Caine said.
"He was doing the video of the game and they had the bye, there was no real urgency for him to do it. I told him to let it go, that it wasn't going to help him when he could be spending time with the family.
"He said 'I'm employed to be the coach of this football club, as it stands right now that's what I am and I won't leave a stone unturned.' So he spent four hours watching the tape even though he knew that was probably it. That just shows what sort of bloke he is, he wanted to go to sleep at night knowing he had given it his all."
Caine said had St George Illawarra told Price he could see out the year, the result could have been akin to North Queensland making the play-offs after telling Neil Henry his contract wouldn't be renewed.
"No one has been under more pressure in the coaching game from the get-go," Caine said. "If they had stayed with him and he was able to coach with some closure and without any pressure. He could have marched them into the finals and left at the end of the year as a 36-year-old who turned the club around."
McGregor said he would continue to pick the brain of Price for the season.
"Definitely, we're still good friends and I hope that remains," he said. "He's a very smart man, he's a good coach. Things haven't gone his way."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-at-dragons-20140531-zrtre.html#ixzz33KXmNxmy
 

DUB888

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Tony Smith could follow in the footsteps of brother Brian after he was sounded out to coach the Dragons next year.
St George Illawarra powerbrokers first got in contact with Smith about taking over as coach in January, which effectively meant Steve Price was a dead man walking even before a ball had been kicked this season.
Lismore-born Smith, 47, a former Great Britain mentor, is enjoying success with Super League club Warrington after stints with Huddersford and Leeds. He guided the Rhinos to a win at his first season at the club and the Wolves, in fifth spot on this season's table, have been a consistent performer during his tenure.
Smith has an affinity with the joint-venture club, having played for both of its entities before they merged. A crafty five-eighth, he scored nine tries from 37 games for the Illawarra Steelers before notching 28 appearances, including the 1992 grand final, for St George under older brother Brian.
Should Smith accept the position, it would continue his family's long tradition with the Red V. Brian Smith coached 118 games between 1991 and 1995 and also held the clipboard at Illawarra for four seasons.
Those close to Smith report that he is happy with his lot at Warrington and it remains to be seen whether he would trade that in for the pressure of NRL coaching. However, Dragons officials hope the lure of returning to the famous club will be too strong.
The Dragons have elevated Paul McGregor from assistant to caretaker coach but he was reluctant to take the place of good friend Price. Officials earmarked Parramatta's Steve Murphy to fill the vacant assistant's role but it is understood he will be staying put.
Former Dragons back Joel Caine, Price's best mate, says the club could have made the finals had they stuck solid for the remainder of the season.
"I went and saw him after the Parramatta game, he hadn't been told but he pretty much knew that was it," Caine said.
"He was doing the video of the game and they had the bye, there was no real urgency for him to do it. I told him to let it go, that it wasn't going to help him when he could be spending time with the family.
"He said 'I'm employed to be the coach of this football club, as it stands right now that's what I am and I won't leave a stone unturned.' So he spent four hours watching the tape even though he knew that was probably it. That just shows what sort of bloke he is, he wanted to go to sleep at night knowing he had given it his all."
Caine said had St George Illawarra told Price he could see out the year, the result could have been akin to North Queensland making the play-offs after telling Neil Henry his contract wouldn't be renewed.
"No one has been under more pressure in the coaching game from the get-go," Caine said. "If they had stayed with him and he was able to coach with some closure and without any pressure. He could have marched them into the finals and left at the end of the year as a 36-year-old who turned the club around."
McGregor said he would continue to pick the brain of Price for the season.
"Definitely, we're still good friends and I hope that remains," he said. "He's a very smart man, he's a good coach. Things haven't gone his way."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-at-dragons-20140531-zrtre.html#ixzz33KXmNxmy

Brian Smith employed by Tigers as a consultant.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...the-wests-tigers/story-fni3gpz1-1226938336104
 

blacksafake

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I'd be happy with this.
As for Joel Caine I like him but what would you expect a "best mate" to say.
 

Coffs dragon

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A great option with many years experience & success in the ESL. The club needs to act quickly and not fart ars around with will we or won't we give Mary longer. The coach for 2015 needs to mould the team he wants with recruitment & retention....no player will sign not knowing who's going to be in charge. Hope Smith gets the gig early and stands up to Doust & Young and put them way in the background of coaching & recruitment.
 

Twenty10

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One thing to perform in ESL... It's a completely different thing succeeding in the NRL.
I think Neil Henry would still be in front of Tony Smith
 

willzy91

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One thing to perform in ESL... It's a completely different thing succeeding in the NRL.
I think Neil Henry would still be in front of Tony Smith

granted its different, but this is a completely professional coach with great success as a coach, neil henry is a competent coach with minimal success as a coach. which one would you prefer?
 

BrissyRedV

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One thing to perform in ESL... It's a completely different thing succeeding in the NRL.
I think Neil Henry would still be in front of Tony Smith

Trent Robinson and Michael Maguire both blow that theory out of the water.

Watch some footage of Warrington and Wigan and you will see they are very well drilled sides. I would have Tony Smith and Shaun Wane as coach in a heartbeat.
 

twinkletoes

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I'm just totally sick of everyone in the media saying what a great coach Price is/ was....Beau Ryan, Brohman, Joel Caine, McGregor etc...no wonder the bloke could hang on for so long with terrible results. Even Caine coming out and saying we could have made the finals if we hung strong. These people are always making excuses for the guy.
 

TruSaint

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I'm just totally sick of everyone in the media saying what a great coach Price is/ was....Beau Ryan, Brohman, Joel Caine, McGregor etc...no wonder the bloke could hang on for so long with terrible results. Even Caine coming out and saying we could have made the finals if we hung strong. These people are always making excuses for the guy.

None of the ones you mentioned have ever coached, so nuff said.
Ryan = comedian Caine = gambling
 

R&WTILLIDIE

First Grade
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One thing to perform in ESL... It's a completely different thing succeeding in the NRL.
I think Neil Henry would still be in front of Tony Smith

Yep I agree with you. But how do you explain Michael Maguire and Trent Robinson?
 

saints4me

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What else would you expect them to say. Doust said that there were KPI's to be met and weren't. It was a business decision. Anyone who's had to sack a friend would understand. It was probably the hardest decision Doust ever had to make...
 

Gomarchin

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What else would you expect them to say. Doust said that there were KPI's to be met and weren't. It was a business decision. Anyone who's had to sack a friend would understand. It was probably the hardest decision Doust ever had to make...

I wonder whether Doust and the board have any KPI's?

We could also see Price had lost the support of the team after the losses to parra and tigers late last year but following an "independent" end of year review decided to re-appoint him?

We have wasted another year hoping that Price (with a few new recruits) would be able to get the team performing...
 

Minh

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None of the ones you mentioned have ever coached, so nuff said.
Ryan = comedian Caine = gambling

:lol:.....so true

Ryan is just a comedian, if you watch him talk about on the Footy Show it's sometimes comical and the others talk over him a lot lol.

As for Joel Caine he seems so passionate about advocating gambling he could be a Waterhouse. He talks well but the gambling talk throws out that credibility.
 

Minh

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In short they should all stop advocating Price, it's more kind to see a coach like that removed from his post than to see how out of his depth he was. He was a good bloke and most likely a likeable guy amongst friends.
 

Mr Red

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Approached in January ... Most likely other coaches approached at this time as well...ie Bellamy .. No takers??? Or just more inept management from Doust not being able to seal a deal, and thus wasting another season..

So Price gets an extension Anzac Day 2013, however 8 months later management already looking elsewhere ... Does this not highlight the incompetency we are dealing with????

Ps.. I think smith would be a good option.
 
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St Georgio

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I have been pushing for the return of Brian, but maybe Tony can go one better, and I don't mind if he picks the Brains of his Brother and not the Brain of Price.
 

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