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Dragons Squad June 30 Deadline

redandwhite4evr

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Question that i hope is asked is " how fit is packer and is he a real upgrade on what we have "? how much would tigers tip in and how long would we need to sign him for ? Is he worth it or is it simply what we all think -- no one wants to come to us ???? packer doesnt really replace jdb more a quick fix for au mau .. And if packer does come across what happens to the bench - latts and packer who knows

SGI has the fourth worst defence (299 points) and we are averaging 23 points against us per game. We need a damaging defender to plug up the defensive dam in the middle which is leaking badly- can't see Packer doing that.

We're finding out how important De Belin is to the club- can't rely on Cam McInnes to do all the work.
 

muzby

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Dufty is a speedbump at the back.
You cant use the same stats as the players in the front line as they dont come under constant pressure in regards to tackling.
How many tries have been scored against us this year by players bulldozing over Dufty?

I was amazed he stopped turbo in the last line so your right he may of improved
Of course I’m right.. Thanks for pointing it out..

i cant not remember him macking many.
I can’t remember him kissing any either, but I must admit that would be a different way to try and stop someone..
 

BLM01

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Oates is the only one on that list. who I would be interested in and could see becoming a regular first grader in our team, but he is asking way too much money for a winger. I did mention Kris, but I have only seen him play one game.

Tracey has big rapts on him, after 3 knee reconstructions, but I don't think we need another 5/8.

The rest would fit into our recent recruitment strategy.
As I said depth. And you mentioned TPJ.
We are miles apart on whom we think can play and whom is value but that is what these forums are for.
But all those ones I mentioned some would outshine our current 1sts grade and especially our reserves. There is plenty to pick from

The better ones. Fast powerful winger from the Roosters Ikaluvu, Oates (he will get less now), French from the Eels
Bateman Aloiai..how good are they going. Naden craps on our Aitken & Lafai
Manu Mau, Capewell good utility.
All those can replace who we have in 1st grade ATM
 
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So the figures I have posted with the club’s logo on the NRL website are incorrect ?
By all means show me the figures that show that to be so.
Musby hates being shown up.
Gets agitated when his brand of whoopy doesn't stick.
Is deliberately and constantly obtuse.
And his grammatical escapades are not only flawed, but they are also tiresome.
 
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Old Timer

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Here you go..

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/stats/players?teamId=55012&category=defence

No pretty logo, but the figures appear more robust than your attempt..

Your move..
Well thank you very much for the definitive answer according to fox sports.
If memory serves me correct you wanted to do a comparison of Dufty's missed tackles per game with those of T Sims & Lomax.
Well the information you have provided shows clearly
Dufty has a tackle efficiency of 75%
Lomax 85%
T Sims 88%
The numbers I furnished you off the NRL site show Dufty has made 47 and missed 12 so if not mistaken that is a TE of 75% so guess what you are floundering.
On the basis of the data you yourself have provided the take away is that
Lomax is 12% more effective
T Sims is 15% more effective
Any other stats you want to put up to validate your pathetic assumptions?
 

muzby

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Well thank you very much for the definitive answer according to fox sports.
If memory serves me correct you wanted to do a comparison of Dufty's missed tackles per game with those of T Sims & Lomax.
Well the information you have provided shows clearly
Dufty has a tackle efficiency of 75%
Lomax 85%
T Sims 88%
The numbers I furnished you off the NRL site show Dufty has made 47 and missed 12 so if not mistaken that is a TE of 75% so guess what you are floundering.
On the basis of the data you yourself have provided the take away is that
Lomax is 12% more effective
T Sims is 15% more effective
Any other stats you want to put up to validate your pathetic assumptions?
My word you are a slow halfwit..

Tackle efficiency does not equate to missed tackles per game.

They are completely different measures.

What’s happened to you this week?

You’re having an absolute shocker..
 

Old Timer

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My word you are a slow halfwit..

Tackle efficiency does not equate to missed tackles per game.

They are completely different measures.

What’s happened to you this week?

You’re having an absolute shocker..
Nice try muzby but no chocolates for you.
You quoted how many tackles per game the different players missed and asked the question why aren't others being criticised as much as Dufty as they missed more than he did.
That number can only be relevant if you take in the number of tackles players attempt.
Dufty doesn't have to make many tackles but all are crucial and a miss rate of 1 in 4 in a side like ours is not good result.
 

muzby

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Nice try muzby but no chocolates for you.
You quoted how many tackles per game the different players missed and asked the question why aren't others being criticised as much as Dufty as they missed more than he did.
That number can only be relevant if you take in the number of tackles players attempt.
Dufty doesn't have to make many tackles but all are crucial and a miss rate of 1 in 4 in a side like ours is not good result.
Missed tackles per game is a different measure to missed tackle percentage.

Work that out, then come back to the grown ups table..
 

Old Timer

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Missed tackles per game is a different measure to missed tackle percentage.

Work that out, then come back to the grown ups table..
OK have it your way dumb arse but you (and probably coach) would be the only person on this forum that thinks you are correct in your analysis.
 

muzby

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OK have it your way dumb arse but you (and probably coach) would be the only person on this forum that thinks you are correct in your analysis.
I’m correct..

The facts back me up..

No need to get angry about it..

When you order a quarter pounder at McDonald’s do you then yell at the order taker when you don’t receive a Big Mac?
 

BLM01

Coach
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Well the 10 day countdown begins to see who is Mr 29 & Mr 30. Me hears on good authoritry yesterday that it will be within. Maybe Dean & Ben make a comeback,
And all this RCG talk. Shows we are too desperate yet again and no other club wants him if Dragons try everything to get him...and or Panthers happy to let him go.
He has lost it as an enforcer front rower after injuries or whatever is going on in his head which makes him back his hip into the line... and our mental institution is not the place for his recovery.
 
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