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Dragons to offload 8 players

Joey_dragons

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ST GEORGE Illawarra are fighting an internal crisis with up to eight players caught up in the club’s salary cap drama.

The Dragons are between $500,000 and $600,000 over their cap for next season with management attempting to offload and restructure the club’s playing roster.

The Daily Telegraph can today reveal the full list of players under the pump at the joint venture club.


Moves to shift players are causing angst in the playing group although club officials have no choice but to be ruthless.


The Dragons have denied Josh Dugan has been asked to take a pay cut.
Players are restless but coach Paul McGregor, known to be an uncompromising leader, is determined to implement his own squad.

And McGregor knows the club needs change, having won 43 of 98 games since the 2010 grand final for a modest success rate of just 43.8 per cent.

Recruitment guru Peter Mulholland is currently sifting through the mess.

The Daily Telegraph understands:

• Blues forward Trent Merrin comes off contract after next season and is seeking a better deal. The Sydney Roosters have expressed preliminary interest for 2016.

• Fullback Gerard Beale looks like being off-loaded to Gold Coast Titans.

• Winger Jason Nightingale comes off after next year, his future also uncertain. There has been talk about Super League.

• Centre Dylan Farrell could be moving to Cronulla although he hasn’t found a new club just yet.

• Forward Jack Stockwell looks set to sign with either Manly or Newcastle.

• Star winger Brett Morris is certain to leave and, most probably, sign with Canterbury.

• There is talk prop Dan Hunt has been granted permission to talk with other clubs but he looks set to stay at the club.

• Fullback Adam Quinlan may be looking, with the club’s permission, for another club.

There was talk NSW back Josh Dugan may be asked to take a pay cut through a third party agreement but this has been denied by his management.

Dragons management want to copy Penrith, who cut loose star player Luke Lewis, Lachlan Coote, Michael Jennings and Michael Gordon due to salary cap pressure.

The Panthers have since become competitive again.

One source close to the Dragons said: “’Mary’ (McGregor) wants his own side. He wants to reshape the roster. And he has no choice. The club is way over the salary cap.”

Mulholland did not return calls on Monday.

The issues at Saints arose when forward Joel Thompson backflipped on a deal to return to Canberra. The club used that money to sign Benji Marshall midway through last season for about $600,000 a season.

The Dragons will return to training next week.

The TAB has St George Illawarra as a $23 chance to win next year’s title


Www.dailytelegraph.com.au
 

Weipa Dragon

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What about green, harrison and co who have added negative input into the dragons footy team. Beale and Farrell; understand but not night and Morris. I know Morris gone but ease not both our wingers. These blokes dominate. How long till hunt finds a club? I
Yhink quinlan and stock well will go quick. Hopefully we are bringing in the under 20s. It's the only way this bullshit dries up.
 

Get2dachopper!

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If they want to do a penrith, I'm not sure Mary is the right guy at the wheel. But thank goodness mulholland is on board navigating.
 

TheRev

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The key issue is that other clubs dont want the players we are trying to offload.. thats why blokes like Stockwell are on the chopping block.

A Dugan pay cut would be just what the club needs, massive overs for his value for money, id rather save 500-600k and play Aitken/Mata'utai/Runciman.
 

getsmarty

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How on earth do we let half our team go ??? and yet players like Harrison/Green/Stanley/ have not been mentioned. Along with Hunt , they should be the first punted due to poor value for money.
 
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TheRev

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How on earth do we let half our team go ??? and yet players like Harrison/Green/Stanley/ have not been mentioned. Along with Hunt , they should be the first punted due to poor value for money.
The off-contract ones are gone but the ones in-contract need to be bought out by another club, noone is willing to do that with Hunt or Farrell so far, not at full wages anyway.
 

dragonrickjs

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One player decides to stay so we have to lose 8 players to accompany this?? Why is this mis management not being held accountable to the CEO?? So sick of this club being run into the ground by clowns! If Doust loves the club he should be able to see the damage he has caused and step down!
 

love my saints

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Hahaha $600k over the cap so we need to lose 8 players???
the daily telegraph at its best!!!! I just cant believe we have fans that are gullible enough to believe this crap!!!
Lets say Thompson was expected to leave but didnt, his salary is only $440k, now we are supposed to believe that Hunt, merrin, morris, nightingale, beale, quinlan, stockwell and farrell combined are worth $600k???
People please, bullsh!t telecrap at its best!!!! The club has already confirmed we are in a squeeze with the salary cap, even if we are thompsons salary over, 2 players tops (and that includes us paying part of there salary) and we are ok. B.Moz alone leaving solves that story book problem!!!!
8 players need to leave.. hahahaha please!!!
 

Jubileeboy

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Hahaha $600k over the cap so we need to lose 8 players???
the daily telegraph at its best!!!! I just cant believe we have fans that are gullible enough to believe this crap!!!
Lets say Thompson was expected to leave but didnt, his salary is only $440k, now we are supposed to believe that Hunt, merrin, morris, nightingale, beale, quinlan, stockwell and farrell combined are worth $600k???
People please, bullsh!t telecrap at its best!!!! The club has already confirmed we are in a squeeze with the salary cap, even if we are thompsons salary over, 2 players tops (and that includes us paying part of there salary) and we are ok. B.Moz alone leaving solves that story book problem!!!!
8 players need to leave.. hahahaha please!!!

This.

Great journalism right there....lol
 

BennyV

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I WISH we were copying Penrith, then we'd have a decent coach in Cleary and a smart mastermind in Gould. Instead we have Mary and Doust, and people actually believe we are going to be competitive any time soon?

Fail.
 

grouch

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I WISH we were copying Penrith, then we'd have a decent coach in Cleary and a smart mastermind in Gould. Instead we have Mary and Doust, and people actually believe we are going to be competitive any time soon?

Fail.
This.

Great management right there. Fail
 

gonz

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How on earth do we let half our team go ??? and yet players like Harrison/Green/Stanley/ have not been mentioned. Along with Hunt , they should be the first punted due to poor value for money.

Yep someone please explain ?
 

hazzbeen

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How on earth do we let half our team go ??? and yet players like Harrison/Green/Stanley/ have not been mentioned. Along with Hunt , they should be the first punted due to poor value for money.

Mate these players should be the first to go also Kyle Stanley should move on.....The real people that should be moving on are Doust and the management for getting us in this mess,in the first place..... I have never had a job that if I fail, I will keep my employment like this lot.
 
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jenninga

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I've ceased worrying about who's staying/going,it is what it is.
Gonna be a long off season this one.
 

getsmarty

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I've ceased worrying about who's staying/going,it is what it is.
Gonna be a long off season this one.

Well said Jenninga. The Press is having a field day with us. Unsubstantiated stories etc. I am sure there is a grain of truth in it, but not to the extent of what is written in these stupid headlines.
 

twinkletoes

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How on earth do we let half our team go ??? and yet players like Harrison/Green/Stanley/ have not been mentioned. Along with Hunt , they should be the first punted due to poor value for money.

Hit the nail on the head...have a massive cleanout and keep the dead wood. A sure recipe for another 3 years in the wilderness
 

bottle

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I've ceased worrying about who's staying/going,it is what it is.
Gonna be a long off season this one.

Yep.
getsmarty said:
Well said Jenninga. The Press is having a field day with us. Unsubstantiated stories etc. I am sure there is a grain of truth in it, but not to the extent of what is written in these stupid headlines.
And yep.
It's just a matter of cobbling together every possible rumour and innuendo to fill pages of newsprint now. Pour it all into the one story and watch the masses feed on it.

Clearly there are players who should be moved on but it seems that other clubs either don't want them or want us to subsidise them too heavily. That's the real issue here. I suspect we will be going into 2015 still carrying some dead wood, despite best efforts being applied to divest ourselves of them. Best efforts not proving good enough to resolve the issue I fear.
 

possm

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The off-contract ones are gone but the ones in-contract need to be bought out by another club, noone is willing to do that with Hunt or Farrell so far, not at full wages anyway.

I've been waiting hear this for a few weeks now. Do you have a link or some verification that those off contract have moved on?

Josh Ailaomai
Youw Kiti-Glymin
Nathan Green
Bronson Harrison
Willie Mataka
Will Mathews
Shane Pumiipi
Kyle Stanley

Thompson is reportedly on 400k and yet we are told that the Club is 600k over the cap. My best quess is that the above players would represent salary of about 1.2m

If these eight players plus Beale, Farrel, Quinlanl and Stockwell were let go, the Club would have about 2.2m less the reported 600k (over the cap) to spend on 12 replacement players for 2015. This is without losing Morris, Merrin and Nightingale.

There are reports that we have recruited 1 outside back and 3 forwards externally;
Packer - at a reported 300k p/a
Alcock
Nabuli
Nutira

Of course we really don't know if all of the above players are amoung the Club's top 25 players who are included in the Club's salary cap however, in the absence of this informmation being made public, we can only give this our best guess when considering this matter however, it seems to me that the plight of our Club has been purposely over-stated and that Mary does not value the contributions of Morris, Nightingale and Merrin at the salary they are requesting..
 

The Nick

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Hahaha $600k over the cap so we need to lose 8 players???
the daily telegraph at its best!!!! I just cant believe we have fans that are gullible enough to believe this crap!!!
Lets say Thompson was expected to leave but didnt, his salary is only $440k, now we are supposed to believe that Hunt, merrin, morris, nightingale, beale, quinlan, stockwell and farrell combined are worth $600k???
People please, bullsh!t telecrap at its best!!!! The club has already confirmed we are in a squeeze with the salary cap, even if we are thompsons salary over, 2 players tops (and that includes us paying part of there salary) and we are ok. B.Moz alone leaving solves that story book problem!!!!
8 players need to leave.. hahahaha please!!!

I'm guessing if there's any truth to the story it's because we have a heap of players on heavily back-ended deals. Benji Marshall being the obvious one for starters - if we brought him in midway through last season when our salary cap was already near capacity and his contract is valued at approx. $600k a season (total 1.8million over three years) then I'd suggest he'd be getting the bulk of that over the next 2 seasons.
 

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