Duffy Options...

[Dorsai]

I think it's been said. He has speed but little else. Having said that he is able to see that gap which allows him to use that speed so there is a football brain in there. I just do not think its 5/8th material. He has just not been taught those fundamentals needed for that position.

That said, isnt that just what we have a side chock full of? players that have a bit of this and a bit of that but not the full deal.

Maybe coached well enough he may show something, but its not going to happen with McIdiot at the reigns.

This side could compare to the side that won the Grand Final in 2010 if it was coached to its full potential. Other than Gasnier and Boyd we had a team of potentially good players. Some that had seen better days but potentially very good. They were coached however to play as a unit and know what they were capable of. These players do not know that because they have no coach. Its that simple.

Dufty, under a coach who knew what he was doing might surprise us all.

Under present conditions however, Dufty being a decent 5/8th is about as likely as Aitken or Lafai being a decent centre.

 

[getsmarty]

I think it's been said. He has speed but little else. Having said that he is able to see that gap which allows him to use that speed so there is a football brain in there. I just do not think its 5/8th material. He has just not been taught those fundamentals needed for that position.

That said, isnt that just what we have a side chock full of? players that have a bit of this and a bit of that but not the full deal.

Maybe coached well enough he may show something, but its not going to happen with McIdiot at the reigns.

This side could compare to the side that won the Grand Final in 2010 if it was coached to its full potential. Other than Gasnier and Boyd we had a team of potentially good players. Some that had seen better days but potentially very good. They were coached however to play as a unit and know what they were capable of. These players do not know that because they have no coach. Its that simple.

Dufty, under a coach who knew what he was doing might surprise us all.

Under present conditions however, Dufty being a decent 5/8th is about as likely as Aitken or Lafai being a decent centre.

He has also got a good pass....He is a fullback...Biggest problem is the Coach....dufty had options elsewhere..both in the NRL and O.S , but decided to stay ...Coach cannot fix most issues...that's it in a nutshell.

We will get a good indication of what he can do when he gets decent coaching...problem is he has had a number of years in the top grade with poor coaching...yet another player messed around by you know who.

 

[Mr Angry]

[complete lie]
Should play a specialist fullback off the bench, brilliant plan.
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[Eatons Hill Dragon]

Who is this Duffy fella u speak of.

 

[BLM01]

Right-t-oh you lot. Here we go.
Question.
How's Duffy's intelligence?
I have a dream! - See him play as a five-eighth.
What I do know - he's very fast, agile and is the right size.
He can pass, can tackle - well no worse than what we've currently got.
He's motivated by the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head and has a point to prove.
He's done considerable time in 1st Grade now: And he knows the drill.
So begs the question - How's the man's intelligence?

Maybe our beloved Futher need's to give this a trial in park football first.

Sorry - My experience sees something which under current circumstances is worth a trial.
We're going to be bottom 4 anyway... All Hail Optimism

Rebuke in your own inevitable manner.

Fullback!

 

[Dragons4me]

Dufty's on record saying that in his early days Hornby considered him a fullback and that's where he's played through the grades. I'd give him a run at half. Teach him a kicking game but don't expect him to be a front line defender. Allocate him a defender partner for that role. Tell him to trail the forwards in attack for the slip pass (like he and Luciano had developed) and give him the Alan Langer DVD collection (as much as I detested him) on halfback play to watch while in isolation.

By the way I'd leave Lomax at fullback.

 

[redv13]

Dufty's on record saying that in his early days Hornby considered him a fullback and that's where he's played through the grades. I'd give him a run at half. Teach him a kicking game but don't expect him to be a front line defender. Allocate him a defender partner for that role. Tell him to trail the forwards in attack for the slip pass (like he and Luciano had developed) and give him the Alan Langer DVD collection (as much as I detested him) on halfback play to watch while in isolation.

By the way I'd leave Lomax at fullback.

Bit late to teach him a kicking game in my opinion. That should be a natural thing you have in the juniors and work on as you grow

 

[Blood&Bandage]

I wouldn’t mind seeing him playing hooker at the back end of each half.

His blistering pace around the ruck and out of dummy would be dangerous. He’d also be in a position, to be sniffing around the forwards looking for an offload.

He’d be defending in the middle, but he’d have support of the other forwards, not one on one, in open field at speed.

He can pass.

He could also cover fullback and possibly in the halves if there was an injury.

McInnes could go to lock during these two periods.

Thoughts?

 

[JohnnoMcJohnno]

I wouldn’t mind seeing him playing hooker at the back end of each half.

His blistering pace around the ruck and out of dummy would be dangerous. He’d also be in a position, to be sniffing around the forwards looking for an offload.

He’d be defending in the middle, but he’d have support of the other forwards, not one on one, in open field at speed.

He can pass.

He could also cover fullback and possibly in the halves if there was an injury.

McInnes could go to lock during these two periods.

Thoughts?

Not convinced. The modern day hooker does an awful lot of tackling in and around the ruck. I don't see Dufty as capable of doing that. Can see oppositions totally exploiting the weak point in the defensive line.

I can't remember actually seeing Dufty pass. I hope it's not Mitch Rein like.

 

[Kiwi Dragon supporter]

Not convinced. The modern day hooker does an awful lot of tackling in and around the ruck. I don't see Dufty as capable of doing that. Can see oppositions totally exploiting the weak point in the defensive line.

I can't remember actually seeing Dufty pass. I hope it's not Mitch Rein like.

Dufty will never make a Billy Slater, nor will Lomax . A competent specialist fullback is needed desperately, its like pissing in the wind thinking the two mentioned will excel at fullback.

 

[Crush]

Not convinced. The modern day hooker does an awful lot of tackling in and around the ruck. I don't see Dufty as capable of doing that. Can see oppositions totally exploiting the weak point in the defensive line.

I can't remember actually seeing Dufty pass. I hope it's not Mitch Rein like.

Agree re Duff playing hooker, hed be targeted (even more).
I remember Dufty getting a beautiful try assist with a crisp pass for his outside man when he first came to grade. I remember thinking Josh Dugan could never do that!
Dufty can pass. Fullback is his position for me.

 

[BLM01]

Dufty will never make a Billy Slater, nor will Lomax . A competent specialist fullback is needed desperately, its like pissing in the wind thinking the two mentioned will excel at fullback.

How many kids and current pl;ayers would be the next Billy Slater, Turbo or Tedesco. Very few in any generational wave of players coming through
I think the word you are looking for is a competent fullback in all areas, attacking the ball with pace, coll under the high ball, step, speed in the open, maybe set up and be involved in a backline passing move and can cover in the backline and defend. That will do us.

 

[Como Connection]

He represents more value than not to first grade. Still a great draw card. So what is not the greatest at times in defence. Get off his back.Onya Matt Dufty.

I wouldn’t mind seeing him playing hooker at the back end of each half.

His blistering pace around the ruck and out of dummy would be dangerous. He’d also be in a position, to be sniffing around the forwards looking for an offload.

He’d be defending in the middle, but he’d have support of the other forwards, not one on one, in open field at speed.

He can pass.

He could also cover fullback and possibly in the halves if there was an injury.

McInnes could go to lock during these two periods.

Thoughts?

Surely Billy Brittain will be the backup hooker next season.
CC

 

[Dragon David]

How many kids and current pl;ayers would be the next Billy Slater, Turbo or Tedesco. Very few in any generational wave of players coming through
I think the word you are looking for is a competent fullback in all areas, attacking the ball with pace, coll under the high ball, step, speed in the open, maybe set up and be involved in a backline passing move and can cover in the backline and defend. That will do us.

You are right BLM01. Competency in all fields is the key. To be master of those skills is only given to a select few and they too make many mistakes. All sports would have players who are capable of being competently masterful and then you have the others who are not as capable but seemingly competent.

Dufty in my opinion won't reach the dizzy heights of Billy Slater, Tedesco etc but he is still quite a capable player. I do not think Lomax is any better than Dufty as an allrounder fullback but he certainly has skills to be in the top grade.

In all walks of life in a given time, you have someone who is at the pinnacle of his competency such as the dux in the class, the highest ranked golfer, tennis player, boxer, footballer, swimmer, CEO (haha), entertainer. Then you have so many who are very capable such as musicians and others in the fields of sports, business etc. Not all can be masters but very capable to participate.

 

[denis preston]

With all these positional changes offered by posters on Dufty i'm so glad they don't pick the 17 each week !

 

[Slackboy72]

Who is this Duffy guy?

 

[Blood&Bandage]

Surely Billy Brittain will be the backup hooker next season.
CC

Yes for sure.
It was just a senario I thought might work?

 

[Blood&Bandage]

Not convinced. The modern day hooker does an awful lot of tackling in and around the ruck. I don't see Dufty as capable of doing that. Can see oppositions totally exploiting the weak point in the defensive line.

I can't remember actually seeing Dufty pass. I hope it's not Mitch Rein like.

I take you point, but I was only thinking of this for 10-15min before half time/full time?

 

[Walpole]

Some of these suggestions make McGregor look like a genius.

 

[redv13]

Some of these suggestions make McGregor look like a genius.

Embarrassing really. Would hardly play fullback at any other club and people are suggesting 5/8, Hooker ‍‍‍