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Dynasty League - 2007 Draft

Cupid Stunt

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^^^ TBH, I'd hate to have your roster. I'm sure it hurts to have to decide who will make 50 points this week as opposed to 45 BUT if you dont win the whole thing for next 3 or 4 years straight then thats just bad coaching. Even with injury to 2 of your guns you should romp in by a bucketload.

And to The Grannies, I'm kinda sorry. To be ahead by that much only to see my QB & D put 58 points on in the final game & leave you with nothing... that has to be a bitch! :lol:
 

dragonfire

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Mal Meninga said:
My team stinks.

Hopefully next year Quinn is starting and throwing on every down.

Will be interesting to see how the Browns handle the QB situation seeing how well Anderson has been playing, would they be willing to trade one of them away?
 

Stonecutter

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Cupid Stunt said:
^^^ TBH, I'd hate to have your roster. I'm sure it hurts to have to decide who will make 50 points this week as opposed to 45 BUT if you dont win the whole thing for next 3 or 4 years straight then thats just bad coaching. Even with injury to 2 of your guns you should romp in by a bucketload.

And to The Grannies, I'm kinda sorry. To be ahead by that much only to see my QB & D put 58 points on in the final game & leave you with nothing... that has to be a bitch! :lol:

Yeah I have a gun starting side, but I have no shred of depth at RB in which to be a good FF team you need bucket loads of. Alexander has been a none factor so far with his hand, and now he could miss a match. Thankgod we have a flex posi and not have two start 3 RB's.

I love my WR's atm, they cover for my lack of RB depth nicely. :D
 

Mal Meninga

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dragonfire said:
Will be interesting to see how the Browns handle the QB situation seeing how well Anderson has been playing, would they be willing to trade one of them away?
If I were Crennel i'd play the guy who's on a roll.

Chances are Quinn's contract will determine who'll be the starter. Could be a Brees/Rivers type situation but Anderson does have plenty of talent around him.
 

kurt faulk

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Cupid Stunt said:
BUT if you dont win the whole thing for next 3 or 4 years straight then thats just bad coaching. Even with injury to 2 of your guns you should romp in by a bucketload.

i beg to differ.

my team is loaded across the board.

and i have good matchups in weeks 15 and 16.

the only problem is the patriots are facing the jets and the dolphins so brady may be going for 10 tds in each game.

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kurt faulk

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btw, imagine having to rely on maroney for anything. he screwed me for the first few games until i came to my senses. he must be the only rb in history who can't score a td or even gain 50 yards when his team is putting up 50 points per week.

i think belicheat got so sick of the manning talk he made it his mission in life to ensure brady breaks the td record and breaks it by at least 20 tds.

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eastsrule

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kurt faulk said:
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btw, imagine having to rely on maroney for anything. he screwed me for the first few games until i came to my senses. he must be the only rb in history who can't score a td or even gain 50 yards when his team is putting up 50 points per week.

i think belicheat got so sick of the manning talk he made it his mission in life to ensure brady breaks the td record and breaks it by at least 20 tds.

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Maroney has had plenty of injuries. Sammy Morris had a couple of TD's

But tbh, he isn't special. The colts had maroney above addai as well for the draft, they got lucky. Addai is much better than maroney at the moment.
 

dragonfire

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pretty sure they had Addai above Maroney, but guess it doesnt really matter now. I think teams would be happy that the Patriots dont have that good a running game as they have enough trouble covering the recievers
 

Cupid Stunt

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kurt faulk said:
i beg to differ.

my team is loaded across the board...

I was thinking more along the lines of points-potential. As in looking at teams & what you would guess them to score say from the start of the year. Stones QB, RBx3 & D alone would win or almost win most games, most weeks.

Coupled with WRs that are currently doing ok BUT with a better than good chance of picking up a good WR in the next draft his side is very strong atm.
 

Big Tim

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Mal Meninga said:
If I were Crennel i'd play the guy who's on a roll.

Chances are Quinn's contract will determine who'll be the starter. Could be a Brees/Rivers type situation but Anderson does have plenty of talent around him.

Derek Anderson is in with a big shot to make a pro-bowl.... meaning they would get more value out of trading Anderson than Quinn.
 

eastsrule

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dragonfire said:
pretty sure they had Addai above Maroney, but guess it doesnt really matter now. I think teams would be happy that the Patriots dont have that good a running game as they have enough trouble covering the recievers

theres a story about manning ringing brady during the draft telling him something like "you guys stole our running back" or something. and id assume manning would know.
 

Mal Meninga

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Big Tim said:
Derek Anderson is in with a big shot to make a pro-bowl.... meaning they would get more value out of trading Anderson than Quinn.
I'd say Brady, Manning and Big Ben are the 3 AFC QB's but Anderson has really come on this season to the point where Quinn will most likely sit for atleast 1 season. Hopefully the Browns trade Anderson for the sake of my SB finalist hangover FF team but the Browns could do alot worse than making Quinn sit for 2 years ala Phillip Rivers before giving him the keys to the well oiled machine.
 

eastsrule

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Derek Anderson would make a good qb for the 49ers, bears or ravens in 2008. the browns will unlikely trade into their division and the 49ers might give alex smith another go (stupid idea)
 

Mal Meninga

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He's still the youngest starting QB in the league and is only in his 2nd year as a starter.

This year even Gore has struggled behind that mess of an offensive line who can't do a thing right.

It'd be moronic to give up on him after investing so much, if by next season he's still struggling(Believe it or not the Niners were 2-1 before Smith injured his shoulder), than the need to look at other options presents itself. He's a smart, hard working QB who hasn't been lucky with injuries or the merry go round of offensive staff.
 

eastsrule

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Mal Meninga said:
He's still the youngest starting QB in the league and is only in his 2nd year as a starter.

This year even Gore has struggled behind that mess of an offensive line who can't do a thing right.

It'd be moronic to give up on him after investing so much, if by next season he's still struggling(Believe it or not the Niners were 2-1 before Smith injured his shoulder), than the need to look at other options presents itself. He's a smart, hard working QB who hasn't been lucky with injuries or the merry go round of offensive staff.

He is definitely smart. But he is a game manager at best...

He gets injured regularly and it is his third season in the NFL. He has not earned the amount of money he has received. A team shouldn't have to wait until the 4th year to have a first overall draft pick lead a team to competitiveness.

Perhaps you are right about the O-Line. I haven't reall had a look at how they played, but Gore's season last year shows that there is potential there.
 

Big Tim

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But Gore has not produced this year either.

That line is the injury problem, not just Smith. Saying he gets injured too much is a double-sided sword. If his O-line blocked people he wouldnt suffer so many sacks, therefore less chance of injury.

His injuries are on him and the O-line.
 

eastsrule

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Do you think if Smith had the Colts O-Line or Browns... he'd do much better?

I'm not saying he wouldnt, just want your opinion. All I've seen of smith is that he will be a backup for the rest of his career.

Russell has a cruise missile arm, vince young can scramble...
 

Mal Meninga

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eastsrule said:
He is definitely smart. But he is a game manager at best...

He gets injured regularly and it is his third season in the NFL. He has not earned the amount of money he has received. A team shouldn't have to wait until the 4th year to have a first overall draft pick lead a team to competitiveness.

Perhaps you are right about the O-Line. I haven't reall had a look at how they played, but Gore's season last year shows that there is potential there.
Injured regularly? He was hurt in his rookie year(Wasn't even the starter) and seperated his shoulder after a big DT unblocked basically sat on him.

As his first full year as a starter, his QB rating was 74.8 which isn't great but is not pathetic by any means. Just look at other #1 picks as QB's as full time starters.

Eli Manning: 75.9
Carson Palmer: 77.3
David Carr: 62.8
Mike Vick: 81.6
Tim Couch: 73.2

He reminds me of a Steve Mcnair type player. You know... The former MVP. Nobody asked him to do much except hand the ball to Eddie George and throw when he needed to. Once George broke down Mcnair had enough experience to guide the team. He's shown glimpes of 4th quarter comebacks in his last 6 or so games, the talent is there he just needs to pull it together. It will take alot longer because the 49ers had zero talent when he came into the franchise.
 

Paullyboy

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eastsrule said:
He gets injured regularly and it is his third season in the NFL. He has not earned the amount of money he has received. A team shouldn't have to wait until the 4th year to have a first overall draft pick lead a team to competitiveness.

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That's true, they shouldnt have to wait that long, but they have now so it would be crazy to give up on him now.
 

eastsrule

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Mal: i believe the quarterback rating system isn't relevant. A player can throw 4 touchdowns and an intercept and would get less of a rating than a player who throws 1 touchdown no interceptions and not much yardage.

Looking at that list, anyone who knows anything about NFL know that Vick was an inconsistent and near pathetic passer. His running ability certainly helped him get time to find an open receiver, but his throws were very sketchy. Carson Palmer, as a pure quarterback, is the third best quarterback in the NFL now (imo). He has a good arm, good presence and he's smart.


Paully, I do concede you're right that they do really have to give smith another shot. I think something that teams are too afraid to do these days is to trade draft picks for proven players. I know for the Patriots, they got Corey Dillon, Wes Welker and Randy Moss. All have had a much better impact than a hit or miss drafted player.
 

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