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Early tip: Sandow won't see out his contract

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If Sandows contract is torn up will it count against our cap for next year??

I thought Kelly again went ok tonight in a woeful team.

We would need to talk to the NRL before ripping a player's contract up (like the Raiders did with Dugan). From an industrial law perspective, how easy it is to sack a player depends on the extent of any breaches (i.e. you can't sack a player for missing a single training session), how much evidence we've got for current breach and for prior breaches.

It was easy for the Raiders, because Dugan took photos of himself and splashed them around the interweb, then failed to turn up for his meeting with the club.
 

hineyrulz

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We would need to talk to the NRL before ripping a player's contract up (like the Raiders did with Dugan). From an industrial law perspective, how easy it is to sack a player depends on the extent of any breaches (i.e. you can't sack a player for missing a single training session), how much evidence we've got for current breach and for prior breaches.

It was easy for the Raiders, because Dugan took photos of himself and splashed them around the interweb, then failed to turn up for his meeting with the club.
So being fat, Lazy and having a pea heart wouldn't be enough for a grounds for dismissal, if that was the case you could sack the entire Australian cricket team.
 

Avenger

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Cannot wait to the the back of this overpaid inconsistent ill disciplined flash in the pan.
 
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So being fat, Lazy and having a pea heart wouldn't be enough for a grounds for dismissal, if that was the case you could sack the entire Australian cricket team.

You're confusing being dropped from a team with having your contract terminated. As is Paul Crawley in the Telegraph.

If clubs could terminate players contracts because they decided the player wasn't good enough, or didn't try hard enough the contract would be meaningless.... Similarly, players can't just decide that the club is fat, lazy and peahearted and walk off and play for another club while contracted. Thus, if a player cannot be shown to have committed a significant breach of his contract, and we wish to terminate his contract, we've got to do so in accordance with what his contract says. In most cases we'd have to pay them out the balance of their contract, or come to some other arrangement that the player agrees to (ie. play for Easts, we pay 30% Easts pay the rest).
 

I bleed blue & gold

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If we were going to punt him over an incident like this we wouldve done it by now. It has been 3 weeks.

I doubt he will be going anywhere because of any issues that are being referred to.

I'd say you are correct. Surely the media would have broken the story now.

I just love a good rumour :). It's what keeps me going these days...
 

hineyrulz

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You're confusing being dropped from a team with having your contract terminated. As is Paul Crawley in the Telegraph.

If clubs could terminate players contracts because they decided the player wasn't good enough, or didn't try hard enough the contract would be meaningless.... Similarly, players can't just decide that the club is fat, lazy and peahearted and walk off and play for another club while contracted. Thus, if a player cannot be shown to have committed a significant breach of his contract, and we wish to terminate his contract, we've got to do so in accordance with what his contract says. In most cases we'd have to pay them out the balance of their contract, or come to some other arrangement that the player agrees to (ie. play for Easts, we pay 30% Easts pay the rest).
I was taking the piss mate ;-)
 

parra pete

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Contracts are supposed to be binding....Can't believe they mean NOTHING these days.
Once upon a time a handshake meant something too. Ah well, I suppose that's the way of the world these days...Anyone think society is better off?
 

Ratchy

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The contract are binding as long as the player fulfils it and doesn't do anything stupid to initiate any clauses to make it void by playing up off the field. If they do only have themselves to blame
 

hineyrulz

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Contracts are supposed to be binding....Can't believe they mean NOTHING these days.
Once upon a time a handshake meant something too. Ah well, I suppose that's the way of the world these days...Anyone think society is better off?
Unless it's a Raiders player, then thats ok.
 

parra pete

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Unless it's a Raiders player, then thats ok.

Don't care what Club...or what player..Can't see any point of signing a contract if they mean nothing. Players and coaches seem to come and go as they please...
Funny way to run business...Get out of contract at the drop of a hat!!!!..
 
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Don't care what Club...or what player..Can't see any point of signing a contract if they mean nothing. Players and coaches seem to come and go as they please...
Funny way to run business...Get out of contract at the drop of a hat!!!!..

The vast majority of NRL contracts are honoured in full by both sides. Of those that aren't seen through to the end, most are varied by mutual agreement (which has happened since caveman days). There haven't actually been that many cases of players 'holding out' (in the NFL sense)......just a few big name cases.

Terminating a contract because of an established significant breach is not 'getting out of the contract'. It is, in fact, enforcing the terms of the contract.
 

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