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So fullback is for bludgers?
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So fullback is for bludgers?
So fullback is for bludgers?
Can someone show me how it failed? Everyone keeps saying that but I recall Hayne single handedly saved our arse against the Raiders playing at five-eighth and was pretty good in the other few matches considering he was learning the ropes.
It is absurd for people on here to honestly claim that Morts is a better option than Hayne. Seriously - he couldn't possibly be.
Generally people who aren't interested go on the wing, aka Grothe and Inu.No its not, but Hayne himself said he doesn't want to go back to halves, because he doesn't like making tackles. So why put him a position he doesn't want to be, especially as he already looks half interested.
if he was a success he'd still be there
1 Luke Burt
6 Jarryd Hayne
7 Casey Maguire
9 Anthony Mitchell
that is a very competant spine for mine..
we tried Hayne at 6 and it failed,
and of argument
Lockyer was very average 5/8th in his first 6 months to a season in that role
Hayne could be a real gun there if persisted with, but unfortunately we dont have the quality of cattle across the park like Lockyer had when he transitioned
Close but not quite there...
1. Hayne
6. Humble
7. Macguire
9. Mitchell
(13. Maitua)
I know there are 'issues' with Humble at the moment but i think this is where our spine eventually needs to be for this season to have any hope of success.
Bring in Maitua at 13 eventually and we have some decent attacking options there.
I still think that, if we had a decent five-eight, Hayne is best left at fullback.
we tried Hayne at 6 and it failed,
and of argument
I think you are historically incorrect. Ando is quoted as saying that he was playing Hayne at 6 because he was not fit enough to play fullback. The switch happened when he was fit enough to play 1 at a high level with a fast recovery rate.
i'm not historically incorrect if you are referring to DA playing Jarryd at 6 for the reasosn you stated.....? i don't recall or buy this fast recovery stuff
DA went on record in every media outlet (including screaming it from the rooftops) that he could find in that 2009 pre-season that he was playing Jarryd at 5/8 because he thought he could do the job and would be dynamic there....with his rare blend of size, skill, pace, good hands and good kicking and passing games......
IMHO i believe that Jarryd eventually said, i don't think i can make it as a - i wanna play Fullback again, so move Burty again - and DA obliged much like Hages did :?
No what happened what Brett Finch quit four rounds into the season, so DA had to promote an experienced Robson to halfback and then thus a proven 5'8th Mateo back to pivot, then Hayne into the centres. He then mixed it up a few weeks later and moved Hayne to fullback in a game against the Cowboys and he absolutely carved the Cowboys up single handedly he kept his spot there.
I think think DA's use of training Hayne in the off season in 5'8th and giving him a few runs there increased his fitness levels, and his ball playing skills that it led to his brilliant run of form to our GF in '09 and how his kicking game and passing game is so improved even now.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, DA is a brilliant coach up against a players culture, almost set in concrete, that resisted his ways. Something had to give. That stunning victory against all the odds Dragons in the 09 final is another sign of DA's brilliant tactics. Players can turn coaches into combatants because of their fixed ways and its not until many years later that some finally come to realise just how good a coach they had back then, a coach they never got to really appreciate was actually working for them & their long-term best interests. Jarryd Hayne & DA is such an example. I wonder if the penny has dropped for Jarryd yet? Jarryd could easily be the next Wally Lewis IF he gets his head switched on. I guess DA saw this in Jarryd and acted accordingly. Stubborn Jarryd resisted. Then there is Mateo, Inu, Grothe Jnr, etc. What did DA do that had so many players lift during the later part of 09, players like Lowrey, Kingston, Galuvao, Robson, Mortimer, Inu, Mateo, Hayne, etc....???? If DA had a board to support him unconditionally we would be very close to winning a GF this year or next, even last year, and we all know what happened behind the scenes back then. As far as I am concerned the 2009 GF is DA, he was so close to beating a team of cheats supported by the corrupt News Limited-NRL and their dodgy refs. And he did this against all odds in his first year.
1 Luke Burt
6 Jarryd Hayne
7 Casey Maguire
9 Anthony Mitchell
that is a very competant spine for mine..
Hayne started the season at 5/8 did he not in 09?
With Brett Finch at half?
Yes, but after Finch quit the whole halves combination had to be entirely re-considered.