Eels Appoint Brad Arthur as Head Coach (Part Deux)

[Gazzamatta]

I just noticed too, with games against the latter half of the ladder it's arguably harder to get up for them. Next week against the Knights it will be Tim Mannah's 200th match for the club, and the week after it will be Brad's 100th as coach. Not only this, it will be Hayne's first game back at an Eels home game since he left. Following this, we have the Broncos at Suncorp, and the crowd always assists in lifting teams up there and the week after we could be playing the Bunnies for a top four spot. Good times.

Do you think Hayne will play?

 

[IFR33K]

I just noticed too, with games against the latter half of the ladder it's arguably harder to get up for them. Next week against the Knights it will be Tim Mannah's 200th match for the club, and the week after it will be Brad's 100th as coach. Not only this, it will be Hayne's first game back at an Eels home game since he left. Following this, we have the Broncos at Suncorp, and the crowd always assists in lifting teams up there and the week after we could be playing the Bunnies for a top four spot. Good times.

Wouldn't it be grand to cement a top 8 spot by murdering the titans. I'm hoping brown buries Haynes head in the turf just like ben smith did to terry hill in 05.

 

[Gronk]

Personally I think Hasler is the best coach in the game

WTF with those short dropouts. I noted that the (assume Dogs) crowd cheered/jeered when they reverted to the traditional dropout towards halfway.

To be fair, I noted that we looked a tad disorganised after gathering in the short ball. I assume it is because we are spread out covering all parts of the field from 10m to 60m. It took us at least 3 tackles to get organised.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think the short drop outs are probably a decent percentage play. The question is why stop doing them? Probably because the rain interfered with accurate kicking.

 

[Gronk]

Short drop-out is the odds-on play

The Bulldogs' short drop-out tactic has divided opinion and surprised many commentators, but coach Des Hasler is onto a winner and the statistics prove it.

The Bulldogs have had 18 dropouts this season and got the ball back seven times, at a strike rate of 38.8 per cent. Not bad when every other team gives the ball back 100 per cent of the time.

The added benefit for the Bulldogs is that when they don't get the ball back, their defence is not working any harder than it absolutely has to. There is no running out 50 metres and then retreating as the set goes on. They are able to stand on their line and rush out.

NRL teams are more than happy to give away multiple penalties on their own line and the only difference with this tactic is that it gives them a chance to get the ball back.

The modern game has evolved, and it's only a matter of when, not if, other coaches adopt the tactic. Once it catches on, we'll wonder why the long drop-out ever existed, like kicking duels.

http://www.bulldogs.com.au/news/2017/05/15/monday_halfback_amaz.html

 

[Gronk]

 

[T.S Quint]

Arthur has done well to put a once shitty club into a good position.
He has shown he has the ability to build a squad. This shows he has plenty to offer as a coach.
But he still needs to show that he can keep a team competitive for years, despite the loss of players and changes of rules.
This is where the great coaches show their worth. Bellamy is obviously an all-time great at this. Bennett too. Hasler up until this year has played in 11 straight Finals series, winning 2 Grand Finals. Hasler has shown he is a great coach, but at the moment his team has become stale. We will see how his recruitment decisions pay off next year, but already they seem like good signings.

Winning a GF isn't the ultimate barometer to show how great a coach is. Ricky Stuart is an example of that. There are great coaches that never won a GF, like Brian Smith. Yes I consider him a great coach.

 

[Chipmunk]

Fifty three percent! Dunno how he ever got the arse. I suppose he did have a great roster at St George.

As Brown said at the time, Wayne Bennett became available.

 

[The EELiminator]

I think the short drop outs are probably a decent percentage play. The question is why stop doing them? Probably because the rain interfered with accurate kicking.

the problem with the short drop out is if you don't get the ball back you have just gifted the opposition a full set of six in your half

 

[Eelpout]

Do you think Hayne will play?

Yep and I bet it will sting him knowing his legacy at our club is tarnished and he won't be playing finals football with his former team-mates.

 

[forward pass]

the problem with the short drop out is if you don't get the ball back you have just gifted the opposition a full set of six in your half

Yes but teams seem to find it generally easier to defend their own line than defend 40-50 metres out. It is not a bad tactic.

 

[Noise]

the problem with the short drop out is if you don't get the ball back you have just gifted the opposition a full set of six in your half

That's no different to any other drop out. A long drop still results in 6 tackles in your half

 

[Poupou Escobar]

the problem with the short drop out is if you don't get the ball back you have just gifted the opposition a full set of six in your half

They'll have a full set of six in your half anyway.

 

[hineyrulz]

Do I think Bellamy is a better coach than Arthur (at this stage)? Yes. Do I think Bellamy is the best coach in NRL history? Yes. What I swap Arthur for Bellamy? No.

Even though he has just one premiership to show for it??

He's still profiting from the cheating of 2006-10.


Until the big three cheats leave he will always will be.

 

[T.S Quint]

Even though he has just one premiership to show for it??

He's still profiting from the cheating of 2006-10.


Until the big three cheats leave he will always will be.

Still one Premiership more than a lot of other coaches.
Yes, he has been able to benefit from prolonged cheating...but then I reckon so have many other clubs (not proven, I know).
You can't deny he does very well taking some ordinary players and making them good first graders. And his Finals record is excellent.

 

[hineyrulz]

Still one Premiership more than a lot of other coaches.
Yes, he has been able to benefit from prolonged cheating...but then I reckon so have many other clubs (not proven, I know).
You can't deny he does very well taking some ordinary players and making them good first graders. And his Finals record is excellent.

Those ordinary players look so much better because they were able to play with 3 of the greats. And IMO the best player i have ever seen Cameron Smith. As much as i hate the merkin.

 

[T.S Quint]

Those ordinary players look so much better because they were able to play with 3 of the greats. And IMO the best player i have ever seen Cameron Smith. As much as i hate the merkin.

They still look good when those players are out of the team.

 

[The EELiminator]

They still look good when those players are out of the team.

except when we beat them

 

[T.S Quint]

except when we beat them

Their defence was still awesome in that game.
Disrupted our attack quite well.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Their defence was still awesome in that game.
Disrupted our attack quite well.

And they made easy metres up the middle.