Eels in the media

[Gronk]

The News Ltd pod with Brent Read, Buzz etc said that the Eels team spent a day in Darwin painting a house or community building.

 

[strider]

The News Ltd pod with Brent Read, Buzz etc said that the Eels team spent a day in Darwin painting a house or community building.

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[Gronk]

Nathan Cayless

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Very interesting to hear Caylo's comments about Wayne Bennett's coaching style of NZ in that victorious WC series. He said that leading up to a big game he would go around telling individual players that they are the most feared forward in the game or Darren Lockyer thinks that the 7 is the best young talent he's seen. They would go out and run through brick walls, but if they lost or came back cocky, he would then tear strips off them and bring them back to earth. At one stage he said he didn't want to coach them anymore if they play like that again. Mind f**k or good coaching. Dunno.

 

[Gary Gutful]

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[TheRam]

Gutho has a weekly spot on the big sports breakfast every Tuesday.

Interesting he said we rarely review our attack.
Match reviews are only focused on defence.

That does surprise me if true. Surely we should be reviewing all facets of our game. Its not like our attack inside 20m zone is that great.

We get ourselves into some terrible shapes at times on the attack near the tryline.

Not surprised at all. The players have alluded to the same thing in the past and I have mentioned it on occasion and the club 'Defenders' on this site come out in force showing more innovative attack then our team ever does.

All you have to do is look at some of the inept lines that our back rowers are putting in or the lack of nous our play makers show or as you say the unbelievably bad shape we get ourselves into or the amount of dead men and zombies in so many plays in each set of six.

As for concentrating purely on defense, we don't even do a stellar job on that half the time so whoever the 'D' coach is sucks too. I mean imagine training constantly on one aspect of the game and having the calibre of players we do and we still don't know when to come in, stay out, slide or go up and in as a unit. It should be like breathing. Not to mention our wrestle that sucks probably more then any other team, including the amount of times we have players still on the ground at the play the ball that allows the opposing team an opportunity to get through our ruck defense and on the front foot.

I have been holding back on saying to much on our defense this season because of all the injuries to our outside backs and unsettled team because of it, but you can still see many of the previous seasons issues are still there. A little better, but still there. Hopefully if and when we get our full compliment back most of those issues will disappear somewhat, well at least until we play 2 or 3 top teams in a row at the backend of the season that is, then I suspect we will see some of our old bad behaviours come back to haunt us.

Hope I'm wrong though.

 

[TheRam]

You're responding to this like he said that they don't practice attacking shapes at training. All his is talking about is video.

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Players have stated in interviews before that they don't concentrate on attack much at training and that they don't do scenarios like if a player goes down and the like. We do the bare minimum in regards to offense and I have only heard our players once or twice mention that they concentrated on their attack this week due to having a shocking offensive game the previous game.

Now compare that to what Cooper Cronk keeps constantly stating that the Storm do. The Storm practice as a team each and every possible play that they can think of that may happen in a game. What formation that they all need to fall into quickly when X, Y or Z happens either in attack or defense. There is no make it up as you go along. They practice, practice, practice until they it becomes a robotic process. They don't leave a stone unturned and each player knows exactly what his role is and expected of him otherwise there will be consequences in the video review sessions(remember they each have to get up and explain why they did what they did own their cockup for letting the team down) and even worse if the player can't get it right.

Now you don't need to be a super coach to train and drill all your squad like that, you just need to do it.

 

[IFR33K]

*tagging

couldn’t you find a tagged building with the year 2022 as opposed to 2007?

 

[IFR33K]

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I can see you spent the 80’s and 90’s tagging trains.

 

[Gronk]

Players have stated in interviews before that they don't concentrate on attack much at training and that they don't do scenarios like if a player goes down and the like. We do the bare minimum in regards to offense and I have only heard our players once or twice mention that they concentrated on their attack this week due to having a shocking offensive game the previous game.

Now compare that to what Cooper Cronk keeps constantly stating that the Storm do. The Storm practice as a team each and every possible play that they can think of that may happen in a game. What formation that they all need to fall into quickly when X, Y or Z happens either in attack or defense. There is no make it up as you go along. They practice, practice, practice until they it becomes a robotic process. They don't leave a stone unturned and each player knows exactly what his role is and expected of him otherwise there will be consequences in the video review sessions(remember they each have to get up and explain why they did what they did own their cockup for letting the team down) and even worse if the player can't get it right.

Now you don't need to be a super coach to train and drill all your squad like that, you just need to do it.

Gee you're filling a lot of blanks in your story with your thoughts and representing them as facts.

 

[TheRam]

Currently third best attack and only 11 points behind the brilliant panthers…..

while our defence is only 7th best, so makes sense to focus on fixing your weaknesses….

Bash and barge works well against the lesser teams. The trick is to do it for 3-4 weeks in a row against the better teams and up till now it hasn't been a success at all.

 

[Gazzamatta]

wtf is he doing in Darwin ?

I mean its not as though he is a chance of playing

Probably came in Oppys place. Im sure BA would want him to stay at home and rest.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Gee you're filling a lot of blanks in your story with your thoughts and representing them as facts.

BA said last week that they know they can score points when they need too.

 

[Gazzamatta]

*tagging

pmsl.

 

[TheRam]

Its more the fact going off what Gutho said they dont even bother looking at the attack on video.

Which i found a bit surprising. How do they know what did work or what didnt if they don't review it.

I imagine Bellamy and Melbourne review everything in regards to how they attack, defend and wrestle with a fine tooth comb.

Exactly and why we keep doing the silly things we do with the ball over and over again. Nothing ever really gets better. Other then D. Brown's game improving naturally as he learns the game with more experience and strength as he becomes a man, not much has change in what we do out there and it is not like we are playing brilliant consistent footy with or without the ball. There is plenty of room for improvement and it never seems to happen. All that we ever try to keep up and focus on is winning our collision.

Wow what a genius piece of coaching.

 

[Incorrect]

I can see you spent the 80’s and 90’s tagging trains.

That's Cayless' tag from our trip there in 2007....

 

[Gazzamatta]

Anyone know if Ennis and McGregor went to Darwin?

 

[TheRam]

How do you know they don't go over shape scenarios that arose in the last match on the paddock ?

Because I have heard them say they don't and besides you just have to look at them to know. They don't know how to break down a team that comes at them other then run hard and hope we wear them down. Works sometimes, but sometimes not and probably won't work enough weeks in a row come September-October.

 

[Gronk]

BA said last week that they know they can score points when they need too.

Sorry, lots of joining the dots here coincidentally by posters who don't rate the coach. Walks and quacks like white-anting to me.

Why not turn speculation into facts by heading out to Kellyville and watching a few sessions when they get back from NT. We need your eyes and ears merkin.

As for not practicing attack at training, did those new shapes in the Newcastle game just appear organically ? Didn't look like eyes up footy to me.

 

[hineyrulz]

Players have stated in interviews before that they don't concentrate on attack much at training and that they don't do scenarios like if a player goes down and the like. We do the bare minimum in regards to offense and I have only heard our players once or twice mention that they concentrated on their attack this week due to having a shocking offensive game the previous game.

Now compare that to what Cooper Cronk keeps constantly stating that the Storm do. The Storm practice as a team each and every possible play that they can think of that may happen in a game. What formation that they all need to fall into quickly when X, Y or Z happens either in attack or defense. There is no make it up as you go along. They practice, practice, practice until they it becomes a robotic process. They don't leave a stone unturned and each player knows exactly what his role is and expected of him otherwise there will be consequences in the video review sessions(remember they each have to get up and explain why they did what they did own their cockup for letting the team down) and even worse if the player can't get it right.

Now you don't need to be a super coach to train and drill all your squad like that, you just need to do it.

What the f**k did Bea learn down there??

 

[TheRam]

Well Im not sure they practice the field goal set up after the Wests debacle.

They have said as much. Moses has said he does practice kicking field goals on his own, but they don't do it as a team under pressure in a scenario setup.

They don't train like the best teams do. Of that I am convinced. Anyone who thinks they do has rocks in their head. Their positional play and movements would be all different, have structure and have purpose. Way to many dead and useless plays and drop unders for a team that has it all worked out. If power doesn't work then we don't have a B plan.