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Eels release Kieran Foran

strider

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Didnt one of the recent leaked trqnscripts suggest Super Scotty Seward did the top player deals while Ando looked after the plebs?

If that was the case i guess its just a tiny bit more believable he got left on his own more ..... hmmmm, or not - f**kin ridiculous

I can't see how anyone would be comfortable employing the merkin
 

84 Baby

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That transcript I think you'll find was from DA describing the situation. Along with how he was forced to sell off players in order to work back towards the cap.

f**k hindsight is wonderful. I hope, no demand, whoever replaces these numpties self-report any f**king issues that have rolled over from now. I don't care if it kills another season.

If the board were aware and just did dodgy stuff to fix up the previous mob's f**kups, then it just highlights stupidity. Knowing the inability of our directors to let the club go, surely going to the NRL & membership at large and saying "hey look how much those guys f**ked up" would have been best action to ensure those other f**kers never get voted back in
 

Poupou Escobar

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It was certainly the current (ex?) board's fault, but they were neither malicious nor incompetent. They just tried to get us a competitive team the only way possible - by rorting the TPA system. Plenty of people thought clubs were doing it before Melbourne eventually got caught and 'punished', and plenty of people think clubs have been doing it ever since.

Case in point? Whenever some merkin suggested Hayne was too expensive he was met with a chorus of "But but but Melbourne/Easts/Souths/Cowboys/Broncos have a team full of stars!"
 

Incorrect

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Hypothetically speaking, does anyone ever wonder if Foran's apparent complete descent into oblivion would have tracked the same path if he had joined say the Bulldogs or Wests Tigers this year? Would those clubs have handled it better? Has the media and their boner for all things Parramatta contributed to his decline??
 

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Hypothetically speaking, does anyone ever wonder if Foran's apparent complete descent into oblivion would have tracked the same path if he had joined say the Bulldogs or Wests Tigers this year? Would those clubs have handled it better? Has the media and their boner for all things Parramatta contributed to his decline??

No I reckon that all its about his private life imploding on multiple levels.
 

T.S Quint

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Hypothetically speaking, does anyone ever wonder if Foran's apparent complete descent into oblivion would have tracked the same path if he had joined say the Bulldogs or Wests Tigers this year? Would those clubs have handled it better? Has the media and their boner for all things Parramatta contributed to his decline??

I'd be willing to be that he'd be playing this weekend (if injury free, of course).
He may have had some mental problems if he wasn't at the Eels, but you would have to think that all the stuff surrounding the club would make it worse.
 

ash411

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Hypothetically speaking, does anyone ever wonder if Foran's apparent complete descent into oblivion would have tracked the same path if he had joined say the Bulldogs or Wests Tigers this year? Would those clubs have handled it better? Has the media and their boner for all things Parramatta contributed to his decline??
To be honest, it probably didn't help him at all.
 

El Diablo

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Hypothetically speaking, does anyone ever wonder if Foran's apparent complete descent into oblivion would have tracked the same path if he had joined say the Bulldogs or Wests Tigers this year? Would those clubs have handled it better? Has the media and their boner for all things Parramatta contributed to his decline??
the media refusing to give him privacy after it had been requested would nt have helped

NRL journos have no morals
 

TheParraboy

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Considering everything else he was going through, the additional pressure to "deliver us a premiership" might have contributed a little, regardless of his salary, pressure is pressure. Mentally he never had that burden at Manly, then wooska all of a sudden he is brought over to win us a comp.

Ive never commented about him to any extent, I dont know the full story or the ins and outs of his private life. But at the end of the day it appears the best for both him (and our club) is to part ways. I wish Keiran the best of health, hope he sorts out his issues and also hope he continues to play rugby league at the highest level next season.
 

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FACT: It is impossible to work up a sweat with a shoulder injury.

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Foran is a top bloke, initially when we were negotiating he wanted $1 million if he walked now it's just $200K. What a man, what a captain, what a signing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

Kieran Foran seeking $200,000 severance payout from Parramatta Eels
688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

NICK TABAKOFF, The Daily Telegraph
32 minutes ago

688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

KIERAN Foran is seeking a payout of up to $200,000 from the Parramatta Eels as the club looks to finalise his departure to allow it to start planning for 2017.

Foran spectacularly decided to walk away from the NRL and his $5 million deal with the Eels earlier this month, as he looked to a complete break from the game to sort out a number of personal issues.

As part of his decision, Foran formally requested a release from the Eels for the rest of his playing contract - but that request now comes with a financial settlement application.

The star Eels recruit was believed to be on a base salary of around $800,000 a year. It is believed Foran is seeking between two and three months of this salary as a severance payment from the club - either until the start of October when the NRL season ends, or the beginning of November, when the current salary cap year officially ends.

Given any severance pay would take into account his base salary, a two-month payout for Foran would add up to about $135,000, while a three-month payment would equate to around $200,000.

Player-wise, finalising Foran’s departure is the first order of business for Parramatta’s preparations for next year. Once his severance is finalised, the club can start to examine both the re-signing of Corey Norman and the possible signing of Jarryd Hayne from the 2017 season onwards.

Insiders say that once the terms of Foran’s departure from the club are finalised, they will look to hold discussions with Norman, before working out how much room they have in the cap for Hayne.

The ability of the Eels to sign Norman and Hayne is set to depend on the club’s negotiations with the NRL about how and how much of any severance pay for Foran will be classified.

Subject to the approval of salary cap auditor Jamie L’Oste-Brown, the club may be able to find a way to exclude the amount from its cap for 2016.

If it is under its salary cap for 2016, this may allow the Eels to bring forward some of the club’s payments to players for the 2017 season - helping it to find more room in the cap next year for players like Norman and Hayne.

This could prove crucial, as the NRL’s initial breach notice against the club found $1.3 million in dodgy third party deals offered by the Eels would need to be included in the club’s salary cap between 2017 and 2019 - jeopardising its cap position.

With the departures of Foran and Anthony Watmough - who were the biggest beneficiaries of these future TPAs - the Eels’ salary cap position for the next three years would now improve dramatically.

Foran was scheduled to receive $450,000 in under-the-table TPAs between 2017 and 2019, while Watmough was in line for $400,000 - reducing the Eels’ salary cap overhang for 2017-19 to just $450,000.

There is no suggestion Foran and Watmough have done anything wrong.

Meanwhile, the Eels’ new board met the club’s players for the first time, with interim Eels chairman Max Donnelly, interim CEO Bevan Paul and interim director Jim Sarantinos meeting the club’s players for the first time.

With coach Brad Arthur also present, insiders said Mr Donnelly told the players that the club would this week commence the recruitment process this week for the club’s two most senior executive roles: that of CEO (to replace the sacked John Boulous) and head of football (to replace the sacked Daniel Anderson).

Arthur is understood to be particularly keen to fill the head of football role, as the role has effectively been vacant since May when Anderson was first suspended by the NRL.

“For the players, nothing changes - it’s just a different board,” Mr Donnelly is said to have told the players.
 

Happy MEel

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If this is infact true, surely everyone can agree he's taking the piss now!! I'm now completely ok with the club doing everything they can to breach him out of a contract. We've already breached him for previous indiscretions, I reckon keep him under contract and make him attend every rehab session, training session, game day, fan day, media opportunity, junior camp, school visit, hospital visit and corporate function that we can. At the first no-show we terminate the prick's contract.
 
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Foran is a top bloke, initially when we were negotiating he wanted $1 million if he walked now it's just $200K. What a man, what a captain, what a signing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

Kieran Foran seeking $200,000 severance payout from Parramatta Eels
688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

NICK TABAKOFF, The Daily Telegraph
32 minutes ago

688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

KIERAN Foran is seeking a payout of up to $200,000 from the Parramatta Eels as the club looks to finalise his departure to allow it to start planning for 2017.

Foran spectacularly decided to walk away from the NRL and his $5 million deal with the Eels earlier this month, as he looked to a complete break from the game to sort out a number of personal issues.

As part of his decision, Foran formally requested a release from the Eels for the rest of his playing contract - but that request now comes with a financial settlement application.

The star Eels recruit was believed to be on a base salary of around $800,000 a year. It is believed Foran is seeking between two and three months of this salary as a severance payment from the club - either until the start of October when the NRL season ends, or the beginning of November, when the current salary cap year officially ends.

Given any severance pay would take into account his base salary, a two-month payout for Foran would add up to about $135,000, while a three-month payment would equate to around $200,000.

Player-wise, finalising Foran’s departure is the first order of business for Parramatta’s preparations for next year. Once his severance is finalised, the club can start to examine both the re-signing of Corey Norman and the possible signing of Jarryd Hayne from the 2017 season onwards.

Insiders say that once the terms of Foran’s departure from the club are finalised, they will look to hold discussions with Norman, before working out how much room they have in the cap for Hayne.

The ability of the Eels to sign Norman and Hayne is set to depend on the club’s negotiations with the NRL about how and how much of any severance pay for Foran will be classified.

Subject to the approval of salary cap auditor Jamie L’Oste-Brown, the club may be able to find a way to exclude the amount from its cap for 2016.

If it is under its salary cap for 2016, this may allow the Eels to bring forward some of the club’s payments to players for the 2017 season - helping it to find more room in the cap next year for players like Norman and Hayne.

This could prove crucial, as the NRL’s initial breach notice against the club found $1.3 million in dodgy third party deals offered by the Eels would need to be included in the club’s salary cap between 2017 and 2019 - jeopardising its cap position.

With the departures of Foran and Anthony Watmough - who were the biggest beneficiaries of these future TPAs - the Eels’ salary cap position for the next three years would now improve dramatically.

Foran was scheduled to receive $450,000 in under-the-table TPAs between 2017 and 2019, while Watmough was in line for $400,000 - reducing the Eels’ salary cap overhang for 2017-19 to just $450,000.

There is no suggestion Foran and Watmough have done anything wrong.

Meanwhile, the Eels’ new board met the club’s players for the first time, with interim Eels chairman Max Donnelly, interim CEO Bevan Paul and interim director Jim Sarantinos meeting the club’s players for the first time.

With coach Brad Arthur also present, insiders said Mr Donnelly told the players that the club would this week commence the recruitment process this week for the club’s two most senior executive roles: that of CEO (to replace the sacked John Boulous) and head of football (to replace the sacked Daniel Anderson).

Arthur is understood to be particularly keen to fill the head of football role, as the role has effectively been vacant since May when Anderson was first suspended by the NRL.

“For the players, nothing changes - it’s just a different board,” Mr Donnelly is said to have told the players.

Have i missed something?

Foran asks for a release and then expects to be paid to be released.

That would be like me quitting my job and asking for a couple months pay as a condition of me leaving.

I hope the club tells him to get farked and just leave.
 

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Has anyone seen the letter requesting the release?
Do we know the effective date and any other requests that were made in it?
 

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