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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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What you're saying are differences crimes of the same offence.

I'd argue that you can only commit the crime of breaching a particular salary cap (of which I believe there are four) once in a given year though. The offence is 'breaching the salary cap'. I don't believe there are multiple offences of breaching one particular salary caps. There are four salary caps and we breached them all for what I believe is the same years that they are investigating for what we have already been punished for. I don't believe that we were ever found guilty of say 19 breaches of say the 4 different salary caps. The offence was a certain amount over one particular cap and that is the offence. I'd argue that there are only four possible offences in any given year.

If that was the case, then the Storm would have got away with much of their major breach. They were found to have breached the cap in 2006, 2007 and 2009 and fined modest amounts in each year. Didn't prevent the NRL from subsequently further investigating and punishing them for their other breaches in those years. There is no a single offence. Yes, there are fines for simply 'Overpayments for Top 25', but there are also cases of 'undisclosed payments', 'playing an unregistered player', 'unapproved TPA', etc:

http://www.nrl.com/history-of-nrl-salary-cap-breaches/tabid/10874/newsid/58361/default.aspx
 
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If that was the case, then the Storm would have got away with much of their major breach. They were found to have breached the cap in 2006, 2007 and 2009 and fined modest amounts in each year. Didn't prevent the NRL from subsequently further investigating and punishing them for their other breaches in those years. There is no a single offence. Yes, there are fines for simply 'Overpayments for Top 25', but there are also cases of 'undisclosed payments', 'playing an unregistered player', 'unapproved TPA', etc:

http://www.nrl.com/history-of-nrl-salary-cap-breaches/tabid/10874/newsid/58361/default.aspx

I still think you could challenge it legally and come up with a good legal argument. You may not win, but you certainly could, it's definitely not something that is black and white. The unregistered player thing I'm guessing is not actually a salary cap offence, hence why that is the only time teams have been charged with multiple offences in the same year, but they have to lump all the fines on one webpage somehow.

Interestingly nothing since 2010 on that page. Did the NRL change it's salary cap fining system?

The Storm obviously chose not to challenge the matter, but were probably not in a position structurally to do so either.

There's no way if I was running the club that I would accept any punishment for breaches in years that you have already been punished for without at least challenging the matter in the courts.
 
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No journalism anywhere in the world contains the absolute truth. It’s as much truth as you can discover in one day and then, the next day, you try to discover more.

Remember the good old days when the media used to have a standard of actually verifying a story before they printed it?
 

strider

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No it's closer to you killed 3 people, convict you 2 for murder & 1 for manslaughter because the police couldn't be assed investigating the 3rd properly then a new piece of evidence gets given to the media

or the true eels and NRL comparison ....

the entire police force are deaf, dumb and mute - you kill 3 people - they can't investigate jack shit unless you dob yourself in with concrete video/photographic evidence ..... even then, if you are from queensland they can't cross the state border so they don't bother .... they convict you for 2 murders - then you ex dobs you in for the 3rd
 
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So with this double jeopardy thing, could I kidnap someone, plausibly confess to their murder, be charged and convicted and then released when they reappear....And now I have a licence to kill?
 

Dibs

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So with this double jeopardy thing, could I kidnap someone, plausibly confess to their murder, be charged and convicted and then released when they reappear....And now I have a licence to kill?

That's the idea of the movie double jeopardy. Ashley Judd I think it is gets tried for her husbands murder then he reappears and she is going to kill him. Something like that I think I've never actually seen it
 

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So with this double jeopardy thing, could I kidnap someone, plausibly confess to their murder, be charged and convicted and then released when they reappear....And now I have a licence to kill?

Merkin, watch this movie, enjoy Ashley Judd and plan your next murder. :thumn

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IFR33K

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No it's closer to you killed 3 people, convict you 2 for murder & 1 for manslaughter because the police couldn't be assed investigating the 3rd properly then a new piece of evidence gets given to the media

What if there's 4 peeps?
 
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