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Eels Salary Cap Mk V

Chipmunk

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PARRAMATTA’s new look management team have had their first victory by ensuring Kieran Foran’s $150,000 severance package is not included in the club’s salary cap for next season in what is a first for the game.

Eels officials met with the NRL last week to finalise the club’s salary cap position heading into next season.

The Eels will have Foran’s payout excluded from the salary cap meaning the club now has about $1 million to splash on players next year.

The Eels are on the lookout for a replacement for Foran and also a hooker following the mid-season departure of Nathan Peats.

It comes as NRL club’s approved a rule which allows the integrity unit to exclude payouts from the salary cap where for conduct and behaviour issues it is in the best interests of the game for a player to leave a club.

The Eels will become the first club to successfully argue to have a players pay out not included in the cap.

It is understood the NRL excluded Foran’s payout from the salary cap because it felt he needed time out of the game to sort out his conduct issues with occurred in the final months before his departure last month.

Instead of terminating Foran for breaching his contract, the Eels decided to pay him a portion of the deal to ensure their troubled ex-skipper would move on.

The rule is designed not for players who should stay in the game but for those who need to more elsewhere for their own wellbeing and for the best interests of the game.

Meanwhile, the Eels are pressing ahead in their search to fill the vacant chief executive and head of commercial roles.

It is understood interviews for these positions will start this week.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...t/news-story/4644081939ef7d124cb13f6a498984cc

Looks like another made up rule on the run. Im guessing it wouldn't have been considered unless the NRL had their own man in place at Parra now.
 

strider

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Why was it to be included in NEXT year's cap? ... wasnt it a portion of this years remaining salary?
 

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NRL's controversial third-party arrangement system could be headed for scrapheap


Next season could mark the last for third-party arrangements as league powerbrokers explore options that are more equitable and easier to police than the controversial revenue stream.

The NRL has already publicly conceded the third-party arrangement system in its present form is in need of a total overhaul, but there is now a growing feeling it is beyond repair and should be scrapped altogether. The issue will be one of the biggest discussion points between the governing body and the Rugby League Players' Association as the parties begin negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement that will kick off in 2018.

Some NRL clubs are privately complaining head office is increasingly refusing to register potential TPA sponsors after Parramatta were busted for cheating the salary cap. The Eels were sanctioned for using a number of methods, including paying players in cash, to circumvent the salary cap. However, most of their dodgy deals were of the third-party variety, many of which were not properly declared or hidden from Rugby League Central altogether.

Some consideration is being given to placing a cap on TPAs to bridge the financial disparity between players at clubs attractive to sponsors and those that aren't. Before starting his role as head of football, former Titans official Brian Canavan indicated a cap on the number of players eligible or a limit on the TPA dollars each club receives is an option. However, that could result in sponsorship dollars being turned away from the game and there is a growing consensus that TPAs don't work for the club or player involved.

Many players complain they have been left out of pocket when a company doesn't fulfil its obligations, creating a shortfall in expected earnings that the club isn't permitted to make up. Meanwhile, club officials estimate there is a seven-figure discrepancy between what the rich and poor franchises are able to bring in for their players, making a mockery of equalisation measures such as the salary cap. With a limit on football expenditure set to be introduced in 2018, there is a feeling there are enough caps on spending already and a ceiling on TPAs doesn't really address the issues.

The NRL recently engaged former Melbourne CEO Mark Evans to review the TPA structure and he concluded the present system – there are five types of third-party arrangements – is too complex and difficult to regulate. The governing body has begun consulting with stakeholders about potential alternatives. One option could be a significant increase in the marquee player allowance, currently capped at $600,000 per club, as part of a salary-cap increase.

Potentially, clubs could fund the allowance in whatever way they saw fit, including from sponsorships that may or may not be at arm's length from the club. The key to placating the players' union is having a mechanism that allows players to earn commercial revenue based on their image or service, whether that opportunity sits inside or outside the salary cap.

One area being explored is the establishment of mechanisms that allow sponsors to back players and the club, rather than having to choose between the two. While a large salary cap increase is expected in the next CBA following the record broadcast deal, that alone won't provide a solution.

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Questions: Anthony Watmough's third-party deal with the Eels was part of the NRL's case against the club. Photo: Getty Images

The NRL and the RLPA have created a committee to address player welfare issues and are hopeful of signing off on a range of initiatives for the coming pre-season. The main change is an extension of annual leave for senior players – those who have endured six pre-seasons or more – to eight weeks. Under the proposal, players who have done four or five summer slogs get six weeks off, but clubs can give them an additional fortnight if they achieve testing targets.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...-be-headed-for-scrapheap-20160825-gr18fi.html
 

The Colonel

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Gee, that could hurt some clubs if they have to pay players what they are worth. Maybe a reason why Gillett is talking up going to the Warriors.
 

phantom eel

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About f**king time they looked into the unequal rort that is TPAs.

Five different types? There should only ever have been one type - TPA providers register centrally via teh NRL, nominating the player, amount, and conditions of their TPA. At true arms length from the Club, and not negotiated as part of the player's club contract.

If they're going to get rid of TPAs in favour of a broadened marquee allowance for clubs, then they'd better have some better guidelines for what counts toward that pool of money versus what counts under the cap - otherwise why not just boost the cap?
 

Gronk

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About f**king time they looked into the unequal rort that is TPAs.

Five different types? There should only ever have been one type - TPA providers register centrally via teh NRL, nominating the player, amount, and conditions of their TPA. At true arms length from the Club, and not negotiated as part of the player's club contract.

If they're going to get rid of TPAs in favour of a broadened marquee allowance for clubs, then they'd better have some better guidelines for what counts toward that pool of money versus what counts under the cap - otherwise why not just boost the cap?

Plus players / clubs should be able to pursue unpaid TPAs as a debt. It's astonishing that a sponsor can just opt out of a TPA without any legal repercussions.
 

forward pass

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One thing confuses me about TPA's relates to Hayne. I was sure I read that the owner of "Trip a deal" was the guy who brought Hayne to the Titans through a TPA?? But they are now jersey sponsors of the Titans are they not?

Or was it just a sponsorship deal of some sort?
 

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One thing confuses me about TPA's relates to Hayne. I was sure I read that the owner of "Trip a deal" was the guy who brought Hayne to the Titans through a TPA?? But they are now jersey sponsors of the Titans are they not?

Or was it just a sponsorship deal of some sort?

Not a rort if its a marquee TPA IIRC.
 

The Colonel

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One thing confuses me about TPA's relates to Hayne. I was sure I read that the owner of "Trip a deal" was the guy who brought Hayne to the Titans through a TPA?? But they are now jersey sponsors of the Titans are they not?

Or was it just a sponsorship deal of some sort?

The company that sponsor Hayne are a subsidiary of Trip A Deal or something. I believe his deal takes up the whole of the Titans marquee payments.
 

Delboy

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this decsison needs to be fought by the RLPA and th club, given the number of injuries sustained by players, almost any claim can be rejected due to a pre existing condition

Yet another brilliant introduction by Greenberg, the insurance that was going to protect players and benefit the game, bit like the bunker. His leadership and vision is a myth benefitting just a few clubs that are his political masters
 

Obscene Assassin

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Had Greenburg done anything you could class as a positive for the game????

He got rid of Shane Richardson at NRL HQ. Apart from that I'm really struggling. Outside of "bringing in the bunker" (which is really just the video ref but with their own live feed) what has he actually done?
 

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