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Eels sign Josh Papalii

Raider_69

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I don't think anyone is all that rustled its sad to lose a player of that potential but what can you do. We've barely lost a player we have wanted to keep in years. Can't win them all.

exactly, good luck and well done to him and parra if thats what he decides to do, we've been great in recruitment and retention of late but you cant expect to keep them all in the salary cap era... he would be the first guy we've wanted to keep but lost in years... but there is still time and a chance, albeit a small chance for us to change that
 

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but why do you want a player that clearly dont wanna be there?

I dont believe he doesnt want to be here. I think if he was happy to leave canberra and his perference wasnt to stay, we wouldnt be having this discussion... it hasnt emerge from wishful thinking, its emerged from various sources saying Papalii wants to stay and Canberra want to keep him

its now down to whether we can come up with a deal that keeps Paps happy enough to forgo biggers dollars at parra, or we cant... i would say at this stage its tough to see us matching their offer but we have nearly 16 weeks to figure that out

The NRL wont register Papalii's Parramatta contract until round 13. We could have the kid sit in Don Furner's office all of monday, nut out the deal and have it registered and certified by the NRL as a contract to remain with the raiders by tuesday

The onus is now on us to either come to the party and get a deal done that gives him enough cash to not need to uproot himself and his family to sydney. If we can get that deal done, i dont think there is any doubt in my mind he will stay. If we cant, he's Parra's next awesome player. Ball's in our court. And we've got 15 odd weeks to put the thing over the try . As i said, the fight for Papalii is far from over.
 
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bileduct

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Mate it's over move on, I never realised Raiders supporters were such bitches, land of the law you sign player you lose players.....black and white, where is the grey area?
LOL!

Someone bump the Israel Folau thread, we'll see who the bitches are :)
 

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That Canberra journo has changed his tune now. Lastly night he was pressured and he will stay at canberra now he is saying they are hopeful. I think those claims show he is a desperate raiders fan clinging to hope. ( which I understand) but as a journo that's amateurish

This system is terrible there should be no window for a club to sneak in a last minute bid by round 12. In my eyes if I sign a contract with a club/work place then that's it. Signed and sealed! Players should sign for their contracts in the off season that they're off contract! So Papalii should have said I'm testing my worth and then waited till end f the year and signed with who he wants then!
 

Didgi

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Parra fans don't fret all this rubbish Raiders fans are going on with will only end up making the kid more determined to honour his Parra CONTRACT, so Raiders fans continue to bitch away, in will only help our cause in the long run!!!!

This is fantastic logic. When you put two and two together, do you often come up with 17?
 

shear_joy9

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he's not worth 400k+

parra can have him for that and he will quickly be placed on their list of over-paid/over-rated busts
 

Raider_69

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This system is terrible there should be no window for a club to sneak in a last minute bid by round 12. In my eyes if I sign a contract with a club/work place then that's it. Signed and sealed! Players should sign for their contracts in the off season that they're off contract! So Papalii should have said I'm testing my worth and then waited till end f the year and signed with who he wants then!


I think most poeple would be the same. But given other clubs have exploited this madness, the raiders would be fools to take the higher ground on the player they are keen to hang on to, and a player whom they are sure is keen to stay.
As Penrith did with Luke Lewis and Nathan Smith (lol on the last one) and as the Tigers did with Moltzen (teehee!)

For the raiders sake, i hope he stays and Parramatta create an almighty uproar and the rule gets changed as of next year
 

El Diablo

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That Canberra journo has changed his tune now. Lastly night he was pressured and he will stay at canberra now he is saying they are hopeful. I think those claims show he is a desperate raiders fan clinging to hope. ( which I understand) but as a journo that's amateurish

he does look amateurish

last night he wasn't going anywhere https://twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/304945178131714050

today he is on the fence lol https://twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/305125768286056450
 

Cumberland Throw

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Sick of all these key board experts saying "he's not worth 250 k blah blah ".

Parra have spent approx 6% of their cap on josh. A game breaker is worth that

Remember if you have 25 players the average is going to be 4% anyway.

So they have actually paid 2% more for Josh

2% of $5m is 100k. So basically we get papalli for 100 k. ,,, good deal


The dollar value is really irrelevant.

Is Alex Rodriguez worth $134 million. ?? Who knows who cares
 

natheel

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I think most poeple would be the same. But given other clubs have exploited this madness, the raiders would be fools to take the higher ground on the player they are keen to hang on to, and a player whom they are sure is keen to stay.
As Penrith did with Luke Lewis and Nathan Smith (lol on the last one) and as the Tigers did with Moltzen (teehee!)

For the raiders sake, i hope he stays and Parramatta create an almighty uproar and the rule gets changed as of next year

Even if he goes to parra then raiders will create an uproar and hopefully it gets bloody changed (that's the outcome I like ;))

I think BOTH fans have the right to whinge about it. Us as we have finally secured a player worth securing an of good talent etc and now it's up in the air (according to Canberra journos mind you) and you guys as the season hasn't started and you guys know a player in your squad for 2013 won't be there in 2014.
 

whall15

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he's not worth 400k+

parra can have him for that and he will quickly be placed on their list of over-paid/over-rated busts

Under the old 4.2mil cap I would've agreed with you but next year when Papalii signs with Parramatta the salary cap will be $6.3 million

So when you work adjust it for that a 330k wage on the new cap is worth 220k, a 400k wage on the new cap is worth $267k and a 500k wage on the new cap is worth $323k.

When you think about it, it isn't that bad.
 

natheel

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he does look amateurish

last night he wasn't going anywhere https://twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/304945178131714050

today he is on the fence lol https://twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/305125768286056450

Apparently raiders management told him the figure he will be on at parra

http://https://mobile.twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/305132857729380352

Taking a shot at Papalii for signing to be 'sandows bodyguard'

http://https://mobile.twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/305115725213872128

Now josh is gone and more money for Sam Williams

http://https://mobile.twitter.com/Tuxy81/status/305098378642075648

The bloke seems like just a fan clinching at hope. So raiders fans shouldn't take anything he says as gospel.

Just wait till something from management comes out from either club
 

EelDredd

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PARRAMATTA chief executive Ken Edwards has slammed suggestions the club's star recruit Josh Papalii will turn his back on the Eels amid speculation that he signed with the club under duress. The young Raider put pen to paper with Parra on a three-year deal during the week but the Raiders have been trying to get him to change his mind. ''We are fully aware of suggestions that he signed under some kind of duress but that's totally wrong,'' Edwards said. ''Those kind of comments wouldn't be coming from the kid himself. There's no way that would happen and I can understand if the Raiders are upset because he is a very, very special talent. We did this by the book, to the letter of the law, and then some. I can tell you how far we went to make sure he was comfortable even after he agreed to our terms. Ricky [Stuart] told him to go back to the Raiders one more time to see if they could match our offer and keep him but they didn't get anywhere near it. To say he signed under duress is almost laughable. His mum was there when he did the deal and, like him, she was delighted that he signed to come to us.'' This column understands that Papalii and his management actually approached the Eels to see if they were interested in signing the 20-year-old forward. ''What I want our fans to know is that Josh will be at Parramatta and we are delighted to have him join the club,'' Edwards said. ''It's an indication that the club is moving in the right direction that a player of his ability and obvious potential wanted to sign up with us.'' Several attempts were made to contact Raiders boss Don Furner but he did not respond.


You raider fans including the Canberra journalists need to move on. Everyone loses talent and we know how it feels. If anything it was your management that should of had him locked away last year. You had every chance to. But didn't. Thats the way it goes.
 

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You raider fans including the Canberra journalists need to move on. Everyone loses talent and we know how it feels. If anything it was your management that should of had him locked away last year. You had every chance to. But didn't. Thats the way it goes.

100% correct. Maybe the Raiders didn't rate him or have too high an opinion of other players due to resign???? They have some explaining to do or some serious offloading to carry out.
 

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