End of the year Kiwis squad - who is in, who is out!

[Revelation 3:20]

1 krishen Inu
2 Manu Vatuvei
3 Paul Whatuira/Steve Matai (injury/form)
4 Iosia Soliola (big game player)
5 Chase Stanley (if Selected)
6 Rangi Chase / Benji (if he is fit and roaring to go)
7 Ben Roberts / Benji (if he is fit and roaring to go)
8 Sam Rapira
9 Isaac luke
10 Roy Asotasi
11 SBW
12 Jeremy Smith (melb)
13 David Faalogo

R Adam Blair
R Frank Puletua
R Rangi Chase/ David Fiumu
R Frank Pritchard

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Smith may have been in my squad but he's currently in premier league and will stay there with young gun eddie paea at halfback possibly for the rest of the season.
Plus with Craig Wing supposedly going to souths to play halfback - he might have to look for a new club.

Chase is naturally a halfback and might get an opportunity to rejoin his schoolmate benji in the halves for at least one game.

Roberts has been in and out of firsts too, but he's just absolute rubbish imo

Chase, well....I need to see more.

All 3 are nothing special imo. I just feel that while Roberts and Chase probably have more speed and footwork, Smith offers more of the "proper" halfback attributes like a cooler head and more judicious option taking.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

All other wing options are rubbish - but you've got Covell on the wing, kiwis dont need anymore halligan-esque passengers in their team. Not sure if you realise but there are more legit wing options ever, which good mean Vatuvai in the future (if he plays sh*t) he wont be garunteed a jersey.

Kiwi Eligible NRL wing options in my order:
Manu Vatuvai (Warriors)
Sam Perrett (Roosters)
Chase Stanely (Dragons)
Jake Webster (Titans)
Geoff Daniela (Panthers)
Jason Nightingale (Dragons)
Shaun-Kenny Dowell (Roosters)
Patrick Ah Van (Warriors)
Cooper Vuna (Knights)

Also could play on the wing:
Krisnan Inu (Eels)


From the recent football I've watched Vatuvai, Perrett and Stanley are performing the best. But auckland born Daniela has been playing good for Panthers and looks pretty dangerous on the wing, since making his debut.
Nightingale like aussie-born stanley has made his debut season for the dragons and has cemented his spot since round 8.
Ah Van is a very solid and reasonably safe player - still young and playing PL at the moment.
SKD is still young, talented not sure if he is injured or in PL atm but has shown both his talent and inexperience could get selected for developmental purposes.
Vuna is well down on the pecking order and should ask captain carmont about helping the samoan team qualify.



These would be my no no's:
Nathan Fien
Luke Covell
Epahame Lauaki
Jerome Ropati in top 17 make that 21
Sione faumuina

To a lesser extent:
Evarn Tuimavave

Nightingale is a Kiwi??????

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Yes he sure is, Nathan Brown stated that when Lowe interviewed him

 

[Iafeta]

What about Corey Lawrie in the backrow? He'd have to be up for consideration IMO.

 

[Mixmasterreece]

In Ozpash's eyes Roptai would be (c) with Lawrie taking the 13 and (vc) from that bum SBW

 

[Skram]

What about Corey Lawrie in the backrow? He'd have to be up for consideration IMO.

It could be a good idea, take a page from the Warriors book ala Luck and have him play the tackling machine, perhaps allowing for SBW to focus more on attack, not that his defence is lacking.
Who would you shift though, I'd say either drop Fa'alogo (a pity for a very good player who deserves a spot) or drop Pritchard to the bench, I'd go with the latter as Frankie does well in bursts off the bench when the other team is starting to tire.

 

[mean_maori_mean]

What about Corey Lawrie in the backrow? He'd have to be up for consideration IMO.

no. he wont even be considered not with the amount of quality kiwi backrowers in NRL, ESL and even the premier league. I hope you guys were joking

He should count himself lucky if he even get mentioned for the New Zealand A team. Though obviously he'll walk in the residents side.

 

[Revelation 3:20]

I agree M_M_M, Lawie is a good player but there are far to many stand out Kiwi Backrowers running around.

It will be interesting on who the coach is.
And the backrower combo they will go for, they need a workhorse tackler in there some where.

 

[top_dog]

heres my squads an a junior kiwis team since its under 19s this year kinda looks good
Kiwis
1 B. Webb
2 S.hape
3 S Matai
4 P Whaturia
5 M Vatuvei
6 B marshall
7 T Leuluai
8 J Cayless
9 M tony
10 R Asotasi
11 D Solomona
12 D Faalogo
13 S.B.W

14 N Cayless
15 S Mannering
16 F Pritchard
17 D Halatau

2nd 13
1 K Inu
2 J Webster
3 I Soliola
4 W Talau
5 H Faafili
6 B Roberts
7 J Smith
8 F Moi Moi
9 N Fien
10 S Rapira
11 T Puletua
12 S Faumauina
13 L Anderson

14 G Eastwood
15 A Blair
16 I Paleasina
17 D Faiumu

Not considered David Kidwell, Paul Rauhihi and Matt Utai Due to long term injuries

Junior KIwis
1 K Locke
2 S Kenny Dowall
3 K McNichol
4 C Stanley
5 T Maori
6 P Ah Van
7 M Parata
8 R Paacker
9 I john
10 S Mckendrey
11 C Mika
12 S Fai
13 S Jones

14 D O'regan
15 L Ah Mau
16 B Matalino
17 U Poching

 

[top_dog]

I do have a 3rd and 4th Kiwis team but too much free time i say

 

[Deleted member 10972]

SKD & Stanley should be there instead of useless Talau & Fa'afili.

1. Brent Webb
2. Shontayne Hape
3. Iosia Soliola
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Benji Marshall
7. Ben Roberts
8. Nathan Cayless
9. Isaac Luke
10. Roy Asotasi
11. Frank Pritchard
12. Tony Puletua
13. Sonny Bill Williams

14. Simon Mannering
15. David Fa'alogo
16. Bronson Harrison
17. Sammy Rapira

NZ A

1. Sammy Perrett
2. Krisnan Inu (when he goes on his Mormon mission, Jake Webster)
3. Chase Stanley
4. Steve Matai
5. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
6. Rangi Chase
7. Jeremy Smith (Souths)
8. Jason Cayless
9. David Faiumu
10. Evarn Tuimavave
11. Greg Eastwood
12. Jeremy Smith (Storm)
13. Sione Faumuina

14. Dene Halatau
15. Taniela Tuiaki
16. Frank Puletua
17. Fui Fui Moi Moi

Iafeta Paleaaesina, Lee Te Maari, Hame Lauaki, Adam Blair are the unlucky forwards...Fraser Anderson, Patrick Ah Van, Luke Covell are the unlucky backs. Kidwell, Utai & Rauhihi are all injured.

 

[mean_maori_mean]

SKD & Stanley should be there instead of useless Talau & Fa'afili.

1. Brent Webb
2. Shontayne Hape
3. Iosia Soliola
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Benji Marshall
7. Ben Roberts
8. Nathan Cayless
9. Isaac Luke
10. Roy Asotasi
11. Frank Pritchard
12. Tony Puletua
13. Sonny Bill Williams

14. Simon Mannering
15. David Fa'alogo
16. Bronson Harrison
17. Sammy Rapira

NZ A

1. Sammy Perrett
2. Krisnan Inu (when he goes on his Mormon mission, Jake Webster)
3. Chase Stanley
4. Steve Matai
5. Shaun Kenny-Dowall
6. Rangi Chase
7. Jeremy Smith (Souths)
8. Jason Cayless
9. David Faiumu
10. Evarn Tuimavave
11. Greg Eastwood
12. Jeremy Smith (Storm)
13. Sione Faumuina

14. Dene Halatau
15. Taniela Tuiaki
16. Frank Puletua
17. Fui Fui Moi Moi

Iafeta Paleaaesina, Lee Te Maari, Hame Lauaki, Adam Blair are the unlucky forwards...Fraser Anderson, Patrick Ah Van, Luke Covell are the unlucky backs. Kidwell, Utai & Rauhihi are all injured.

yep damn every single player named will be worthy of wearing the kiwi jersey in this up coming series.
I'd probably through Geoff Daniela on the wing for the NZ 'a' team

 

[Mixmasterreece]

Are there actually any NZA scheduled for this year?

 

[Technique]

All other wing options are rubbish - but you've got Covell on the wing, kiwis dont need anymore halligan-esque passengers in their team. Not sure if you realise but there are more legit wing options ever, which good mean Vatuvai in the future (if he plays sh*t) he wont be garunteed a jersey.

Kiwi Eligible NRL wing options in my order:
Manu Vatuvai (Warriors)
Sam Perrett (Roosters)
Chase Stanely (Dragons)
Jake Webster (Titans)
Geoff Daniela (Panthers)
Jason Nightingale (Dragons)
Shaun-Kenny Dowell (Roosters)
Patrick Ah Van (Warriors)
Cooper Vuna (Knights)

Also could play on the wing:
Krisnan Inu (Eels)


From the recent football I've watched Vatuvai, Perrett and Stanley are performing the best. But auckland born Daniela has been playing good for Panthers and looks pretty dangerous on the wing, since making his debut.
Nightingale like aussie-born stanley has made his debut season for the dragons and has cemented his spot since round 8.
Ah Van is a very solid and reasonably safe player - still young and playing PL at the moment.
SKD is still young, talented not sure if he is injured or in PL atm but has shown both his talent and inexperience could get selected for developmental purposes.
Vuna is well down on the pecking order and should ask captain carmont about helping the samoan team qualify.



These would be my no no's:
Nathan Fien
Luke Covell
Epahame Lauaki
Jerome Ropati in top 17 make that 21
Sione faumuina

To a lesser extent:
Evarn Tuimavave

I am fully aware of all those players, but I basically believe they are all either just plain rubbish or not good enough yet. Covell and Tuiaki aren't even close to being test standard wingers really, but they are the best options.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Tuiaki can be a test standard backrower IMO.

 

[Corbin]

1 Brent Webb
2 Kristan Inu
3 Iosia Soliola
4 Shontayne Hape
5 Shaun Kenny-Dowell/Fraser Anderson/Taniela Tuiaki (pending availability)
6 Ben Roberts/Rangi Chase (i honestly just cant decide there both great at 5/8)
7 Benji Marshall
8 Nathan Cayless
9 Dean Halatau
10 Roy Asotasi
11 Frank Pritchard
12 Sonny Bill Williams
13 Simon Mannering

14 Issac Luke (comes on after the fire with Halatau to Lock)
15 Jason Cayless
16 David Fa'alogo
17 Sam Rapira

18 Bronson Harrison
19 Setimata Sa
20 Fui Fui Moi Moi (If available)/Evarn Tuimavave
21 Adam Blair
22. Henry Perenara (Bolter of the century!)