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England v Australia - 5th Test (THE DECIDER!)

Timbo

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By the way, this is law 1, section 9 of ICC code:

9. Suspension of play for adverse conditions of ground, weather or light
(a) (i) All references to ground include the pitch. See {error}.
(ii) For the purpose of this Law and {error} only, the batsmen at the wicket may deputise for their captain at any appropriate time.

(b)If at any time the umpires together agree that the condition of the ground, weather or light is not suitable for play, they shall inform the captains and, unless
(i) in unsuitable ground or weather conditions both captains agree to continue, or to commence, or to restart play,
or (ii) in unsuitable light the batting side wishes to continue, or to commence, or to restart play,
they shall suspend play, or not allow play to commence or to restart.

(c) (i) After agreeing to play in unsuitable ground or weather conditions, either captain may appeal against the conditions to the umpires before the next call of Time. The umpires shall uphold the appeal only if, in their opinion, the factors taken into account when making their previous decision are the same or the conditions have further deteriorated.
(ii) After deciding to play in unsuitable light, the captain of the batting side may appeal against the light to the umpires before the next call of Time. The umpires shall uphold the appeal only if, in their opinion, the factors taken into account when making their previous decision are the same or the condition of the light has further deteriorated.

(d) If at any time the umpires together agree that the conditions of ground, weather or light are so bad that there is obvious and foreseeable risk to the safety of any player or umpire, so that it would be unreasonable or dangerous for play to take place, then notwithstanding the provisions of (b)(i) and (b)(ii) above, they shall immediately suspend play, or not allow play to commence or to restart. The decision as to whether conditions are so bad as to warrant such action is one for the umpires alone to make.
The fact that the grass and the ball are wet and slippery does not warrant the ground conditions being regarded as unreasonable or dangerous. If the umpires consider the ground is so wet or slippery as to deprive the bowler of a reasonable foothold, the fielders of the power of free movement, or the batsmen of the ability to play their strokes or to run between the wickets, then these conditions shall be regarded as so bad that it would be unreasonable for play to take place.

(e) When there is a suspension of play it is the responsibility of the umpires to monitor the conditions. They shall make inspections as often as appropriate, unaccompanied by any of the players or officials. Immediately the umpires together agree that conditions are suitable for play they shall call upon the players to resume the game.

(f) If play is in progress up to the start of an agreed interval then it will resume after the interval unless the umpires together agree that conditions are or have become unsuitable or dangerous. If they do so agree, then they shall implement the procedure in (b) or (d) above, as appropriate, whether or not there had been any decision by the captains to continue, or any appeal against the conditions by either captain, prior to the commencement of the interval.

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Explain to me how that applies with two spinners on?
 

Jordan

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Also, it's f**ked that England had Flintoff and Hoggart bowling to us and swinging it like crazy in the same conditions. Maybe if we acted like a little bitch like England we could have faced spinners as well. At least we want to win or lose on our own merit.
 

dice

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Jordan said:
Also, it's f**ked that England had Flintoff and Hoggart bowling to us and swinging it like crazy in the same conditions. Maybe if we acted like a little bitch like England we could have faced spinners as well. At least we want to win or lose on our own merit.

Australia were offered the light and batted on for obvious reasons. England were never going to bowl spinners.
 

Raider_69

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cheating bastards
hope the poms enjoy their tainted ashes... off for light when facing spin... yea righto
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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face it the games gone
even if they get back on u cant honestly see them getting more than 1 hour AT THE ABSOLUTE most in can u
i mean with the baatsman complaining every ball and it being physically a risk to their batsman
 

Balmain_Boy

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Just playing devil's advocate, but

(b)If at any time the umpires together agree that the condition of the ground, weather or light is not suitable for play, they shall inform the captains and, unless
(i) in unsuitable ground or weather conditions both captains agree to continue, or to commence, or to restart play,
or (ii) in unsuitable light the batting side wishes to continue, or to commence, or to restart play,
they shall suspend play, or not allow play to commence or to restart.

Now is this part of the law depedent on part d? Or is it independent?
 

camsmith

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F*uck those pommies are weak as piss.

Its one thing to beat us, its another to beat us with rain/light.

Its like beating Newcastle without Johns. grr
 

dice

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The hyprocisy in all of this is in the 4th day of the 3rd test England were allowed to continue bowling in bad light with Vaughn and Giles bowling :?
 

Big_Bad_Shark_Fan

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from cricinfo

"UPDATE 1340 GMT: The covers are coming on now as there is a slight
drizzle. Although it might be interesting for fans to hear that
just about 4 miles north of The Oval play is on at Lord's in a
first-class match, Middlesex v Glamorgan."
 

Timbo

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Big_Bad_Shark_Fan said:
from cricinfo

"UPDATE 1340 GMT: The covers are coming on now as there is a slight
drizzle. Although it might be interesting for fans to hear that
just about 4 miles north of The Oval play is on at Lord's in a
first-class match, Middlesex v Glamorgan."


It's clear in London just not at the oval.

Joke.
 

Timbo

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Balmain_Boy said:
Can anyone answer my question...timbo?

It is, and it isn't.

The umpires can agree for any reason that the conditions are unsuitable for play, however as a matter of course, there usually needs to be a direct threat to either the batsment or fielders.
 

lockyno1

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Balmain_Boy said:
To be fair to the poms they would have won the third test if there'd been no rain...

McGrath would have batted all day, he looked like he was going to get a hundred!:D
 

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