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http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/Super-League-looks-to-axe.6013017.jp
Please do not let this happen... :shock: :x
Please do not let this happen... :shock: :x
The crisis-hit Crusaders and Salford City Reds – promoted last time around – are the obvious clubs who will fear the worst but Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and Castleford Tigers will also be fretting about the 12 months ahead as they have already been warned by the RFL for the need to improve their stadia.
Halifax, Barrow and Widnes are the Championship clubs who can currently apply for a licence although the 2010 Championship Grand Finalists and Northern Rail Cup winners will also be in position to put their cases forward.
The one new arrival should be announced next spring although any ousted from the upper echelon will not be revealed until later in 2011.
It isnt the end of the world.
Toulouse up, Castleford, Wakefield and Salford down.
this would leave an awesome NL1, which would have good strong clubs who can take their time and build a proper case for long term success in the ESL. Castleford, Wakefield, Widnes, Salford, Halifax etc would all be very strong clubs and exactly what the national league should be full of. I dont think they would lose that much support, either, as they would be competing against many of their long time rivals and big name clubs. It gives them a chance to be competive. To be honest, if these clubs got in on the basis three years ago that they were building stadiums, they can have nothing to argue if they are expelled for three years unyil they actually get those stadiums.
To be honest, they never really should have went from 12 to 14 anyway. Particularly since they elected not to include the Toulouse!
Do you have no idea how destructive that would be? Aside from having 2 poor quality sides in a 12 team league, you can just about get away with 1 in 14 and even that is damaging but you'd be telling every heartland team outside of SL to f*ck off and they're not wanted in the sport.It isnt the end of the world.
Toulouse up, Castleford, Wakefield and Salford down.
Do you have no idea how destructive that would be? Aside from having 2 poor quality sides in a 12 team league, you can just about get away with 1 in 14 and even that is damaging but you'd be telling every heartland team outside of SL to f*ck off and they're not wanted in the sport.
If it's 12 it should be Crusaders, Salford and either Wakefield or Castleford out and Widnes in. If Toulouse make the final next year they maybe have a chance to replace the other one of Cas or Wakey but if they're promoted and noone else is despite them not meeting playing criteria and if Crusaders get kept above 3 far stronger clubs then the whole system loses every last shred if credibility.
If Toulouse don't make the final this year they don't meet the criteria which is how unlikely it is. I could see them bending to 2 up 2 down with 14 teams but they would only go to 4 down if the 2 going up both met the full criteria including playing wise. They've said the team going up will be announced next spring but the teams getting chopped will only be announced later that year so they seem to be working on an assumption of 1 up.I never mentioned anything about Toulouse not meeting the criteria. I have assumed they will, and i think it unlikely that they wont meet the criteria. If they dont, then obviously they will be replaced by Widnes (most likely). Either way, the point stands with the NL1 being stronger. Certainly with two less teams, the playing strength of those in ESL will be stronger, and having two big clubs (particularly heartland clubs) will only help strengthen NL1, so it is not the disaster many people think it will be. IN fact, who knows, it may even mean that these big clubs will get rid of all or most of their imports and concentrate on young talent. It could be a godsend if this happens.
Incidentally, if toulouse dont win the league (particularly if they go very close), there is a very real danger that 3 out and 1 in will be changed to 4 out and 2 in, because it would be a major surprise if Toulouse dont make it this time around. I am not sure who that would put in the line of fire. But Celtic, Quins and Huddersfield would be a pretty good guess. As far as teams missing the cut, several teams got in on the proviso that they were upgrading facilities. The teams that have not done this (or made substantial strides) really dont have anything to complain about.
If Toulouse don't make the final this year they don't meet the criteria which is how unlikely it is. I could see them bending to 2 up 2 down with 14 teams but they would only go to 4 down if the 2 going up both met the full criteria including playing wise. They've said the team going up will be announced next spring but the teams getting chopped will only be announced later that year so they seem to be working on an assumption of 1 up.
No that wasn't reported as that, it was deliberately left vague. It was said there's one guaranteed spot and teams that want to apply for SL have to make a grand final or win the NRC. How that is to be read is anyone's guess (wishful thinking seems to have led people to it believing Toulouse can get promoted as a 2nd side), but it seems that the 1 promoted team is to be announced next spring so they seem to be working on the basis of 1 up. I imagine the only chance Toulouse have (except making the grand final) is if a French TV deal allows them to stay at 14 teams. It's very unlikely they'll cut 4 teams and if they do it will be for 2 criteria meeting teams IMO.The grand final criteria was only ever for One club to get "promotion". ie if 2 clubs go up, they dont both need to be grand finalists. At least that is how it was originally reported. I would be surprised if it has changed.
No just one, the new team is announced next spring before 2011 grand finalists are announced. Though making the 2011 grand final or winning the NRC will I believe enable you to apply for 2015Incidentally, Toulouse (or anyone else) have 2 years to reach the grand final dont they?
crap idea. the pom ru will flash cash at any clubs they sent down.
Do clubs in expansion areas get extra 'points' when working out who deserves to be in ESL?
enough to be 'safe'?