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sorry pisswater, just trying to go step by step logically so you can stay with me, i'll take it you agree with my first premise.
so tell me, who from manly has excelled at rep or finals footy?
hopoate, watmough, lyon, ballin, g.stewart, kite, any others?
i'll even include qld cup finals, if you want to say cherry evans
About 8 players won a Grand Final by 40 points about 3 years ago. Two others have won premierships, and three others have either represented NSW, NZ or won Rookie of the Year.
You're probably right, they haven't really excelled.