This is a negative effect concept that abounds in rugby league enmass.
Its primary concern atm is in sydney.
People reason that for instance, if you took manly and shut them down, moved them to the central coast, all of a sudden league would die a horrible death on the entire north shore.
Yet look at manly - I am sorry to single them out, but in this example, the scenario's it offers are more numerous. They are a club with very few members, an old and possibly the worst stadium in sydney, even though they made the GF last year....
I have a feeling that rl does not support its expansion clubs like AFL does. In afl they give concessions to make the new team ale to attract big players, be successful in the region, a new stadium/upgrade.
But no one in melbourne or indeed an afl forum member will say that melbourne afl will die in a particular area because no team plays there that once did.
A team in the top flight of the nrl is not a be-all and end-all of support for the code in an area.
This is sydney's rl's largest mistake and the perception from certain fans.
Not only do you have all this going on in rl amongst the fans, you also have a case whereby new teams are not supported. Unless of course you are talking about news ltd supporting the storm and cowboys and Canberra.
That was one thing which was done right - yet people talked ill of that at every opportunity.
I have come to the conclusion (and i mean no disrespect) but very few people on this board have any clue about what needs to be done/what can be done.
If you got rid of one sydney team and put them on the central coast (at this stage not contemplating if they would be supported), do you really think that its going to matter to sydney RL?
Do you really think that the true few thousand manly supporters are keeping the game alive in sydney?
Where the AFL will try to keep negative press to a minimum about a situation as such, in rl the press will blow it up and thrive off the fans negative views and fearful outlooks.
To me I look at the situation and shake my head with shame. RL is shooting itself in the foot.
To me, true manly (still using them as an example but it could be anyone really) fans may number less than 10,000. Thats hard to deny. But if you had a team on the central coast, true CC fans may number in the tens of thousands.
In this sense (an actuality or fact because its hard to deny the logic) RL is a self-limiting beast. And this feeling is perpetuated by the fans attitudes, the administrations reluctance to take a risk great of small and support that risk until its completion, and a media hell-bent on feeding off this negative feeling to sell papers via fear reporting.
Its ridiculous to say that if manly was not there, that the north shore junior leagues could not be looked after and made to flourish, that rl would cease to exist on the north shore....maybe its not the absence of a rl team there that would cause league to die there, maybe its the absence of support for that region: its just the wrong perception to think that league would die a horrible death without a nrl team there....it would not. These people have access to transport and if their support for league is genuine, and of a level thats of any use to the game, then they would support their second teams.
Its primary concern atm is in sydney.
People reason that for instance, if you took manly and shut them down, moved them to the central coast, all of a sudden league would die a horrible death on the entire north shore.
Yet look at manly - I am sorry to single them out, but in this example, the scenario's it offers are more numerous. They are a club with very few members, an old and possibly the worst stadium in sydney, even though they made the GF last year....
I have a feeling that rl does not support its expansion clubs like AFL does. In afl they give concessions to make the new team ale to attract big players, be successful in the region, a new stadium/upgrade.
But no one in melbourne or indeed an afl forum member will say that melbourne afl will die in a particular area because no team plays there that once did.
A team in the top flight of the nrl is not a be-all and end-all of support for the code in an area.
This is sydney's rl's largest mistake and the perception from certain fans.
Not only do you have all this going on in rl amongst the fans, you also have a case whereby new teams are not supported. Unless of course you are talking about news ltd supporting the storm and cowboys and Canberra.
That was one thing which was done right - yet people talked ill of that at every opportunity.
I have come to the conclusion (and i mean no disrespect) but very few people on this board have any clue about what needs to be done/what can be done.
If you got rid of one sydney team and put them on the central coast (at this stage not contemplating if they would be supported), do you really think that its going to matter to sydney RL?
Do you really think that the true few thousand manly supporters are keeping the game alive in sydney?
Where the AFL will try to keep negative press to a minimum about a situation as such, in rl the press will blow it up and thrive off the fans negative views and fearful outlooks.
To me I look at the situation and shake my head with shame. RL is shooting itself in the foot.
To me, true manly (still using them as an example but it could be anyone really) fans may number less than 10,000. Thats hard to deny. But if you had a team on the central coast, true CC fans may number in the tens of thousands.
In this sense (an actuality or fact because its hard to deny the logic) RL is a self-limiting beast. And this feeling is perpetuated by the fans attitudes, the administrations reluctance to take a risk great of small and support that risk until its completion, and a media hell-bent on feeding off this negative feeling to sell papers via fear reporting.
Its ridiculous to say that if manly was not there, that the north shore junior leagues could not be looked after and made to flourish, that rl would cease to exist on the north shore....maybe its not the absence of a rl team there that would cause league to die there, maybe its the absence of support for that region: its just the wrong perception to think that league would die a horrible death without a nrl team there....it would not. These people have access to transport and if their support for league is genuine, and of a level thats of any use to the game, then they would support their second teams.