External Review of Wests Tigers Operations.

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

Have signed but don't expect much to happen. Realistically the constitution needs to change to allow directors to be voted in/out by members. A club sponsor must never be allowed to be chair again. The whole board with the possible exception of Dorahy must go. However, self interested parties have it locked down tighter than the Kim family and their grip on North Korea. There's no incentive for them to change. They would actually be doing themselves out of money.

Even if all this happened, certain changes need to be made at NRL/ARL commission level to help us and other perennially struggling teams. The salary cap and player transfer system we have are only window dressing for an equal comp. The NRL either don't realise, or don't care about this. It will only get worse from here and the NRL will end up like the EPL where only 3 or 4 teams have a realistic chance to win. Except for about once every 10 years where there's an out of the blue, one off winner. This is unlikely to happen while the NRL and RLPA are at loggerheads.

Fingers crossed though

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Have signed but don't expect much to happen. Realistically the constitution needs to change to allow directors to be voted in/out by members. A club sponsor must never be allowed to be chair again. The whole board with the possible exception of Dorahy must go. However, self interested parties have it locked down tighter than the Kim family and their grip on North Korea. There's no incentive for them to change. They would actually be doing themselves out of money.

Even if all this happened, certain changes need to be made at NRL/ARL commission level to help us and other perennially struggling teams. The salary cap and player transfer system we have are only window dressing for an equal comp. The NRL either don't realise, or don't care about this. It will only get worse from here and the NRL will end up like the EPL where only 3 or 4 teams have a realistic chance to win. Except for about once every 10 years where there's an out of the blue, one off winner. This is unlikely to happen while the NRL and RLPA are at loggerheads.

Fingers crossed though

They will eventually die off. Except I suppose they could bequeath their board membership a la dragons.

 

[Tigerm]

If Lee goes and takes his money with him (which would probably be the case) who stumps up the short fall?

Who replaces Sheens? The great Gus isn’t going that well?

The talent pool is not being spread, the way it should be, imo.

The NRL need to look at the money, if they are fair dinkum, some of the other clubs just can’t be getting the players they are signing legally, surely?

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

If Lee goes and takes his money with him (which would probably be the case) who stumps up the short fall?

Who replaces Sheens? The great Gus isn’t going that well?

The talent pool is not being spread, the way it should be, imo.

The NRL need to look at the money, if they are fair dinkum, some of the other clubs just can’t be getting the players they are signing legally, surely?

We won’t be short of sponsors if Lee goes.

No chance of that.

As for the talent pool, we will probably attract better players if we are competitive. Lots of clubs have done that.

It’s a good time to be liberated to take advantage of the troubles with powerhouse clubs.

Canberra are a really good model of what can be done with the right organisation, good people and coaching etc. They have all the glamour of a leaking cistern, but by the crikey they find a way.

Watch Des beef up the Titans.

 

[Nutz]

We won’t be short of sponsors if Lee goes.
No chance of that.

Is that speculation SP? Would another big company want to sponsor us?? Does anyone know the extent that Lee sponsors?

 

[Tigerm]

We won’t be short of sponsors if Lee goes.

No chance of that.

As for the talent pool, we will probably attract better players if we are competitive. Lots of clubs have done that.

It’s a good time to be liberated to take advantage of the troubles with powerhouse clubs.

Canberra are a really good model of what can be done with the right organisation, good people and coaching etc. They have all the glamour of a leaking cistern, but by the crikey they find a way.

Watch Des beef up the Titans.

“We won’t be short of sponsors, if Lee goes”

Sorry, but that is pure speculation, that none of us could know, besides Lee is the major sponsor, that may be hard to replace, considering our current position. The next bloke (major sponsor) will want the chair and he may know even less than Lee.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Yeah I do know one our sponsors.

Lees sponsorship is also probably a tax deduction for his law group as it would be for others corporates.

Soon he might be the only one sponsoring us.

The other thing is you have to look at what the sponsorship is for.

Coming last with no hope is not worth Lees sponsorship in any shape way or forum.

I’d rather we had no sponsor and came second last.

I’m careful what I wish for.

If Lee won’t sponsor us without his chair position that’s consistent with his fiefdom attitude and Tantys.

Again lads, not every sponsor gets a board possie. It’s not an entitlement unless you are in the matey carpack. crowd.

We’ve had sponsors before Lees ambulance chasing law firm.

 

[Tigerm]

Yeah I do know one our sponsors.

Lees sponsorship is also probably a tax deduction for his law group as it would be for others corporates.

Soon he might be the only one sponsoring us.

The other thing is you have to look at what the sponsorship is for.

Coming last with no hope is not worth Lees sponsorship in any shape way or forum.

I’d rather we had no sponsor and came second last.

Knowing a sponsor, doesn’t mean you know what anyone will do, if Lee pulls the pin. I’d think Lee’s business puts in a substantial amount of cash.

From what I can see, Lee’s sponsorship is for naming rights on the jersey and the chair seat on the board.

But this is all just fantasy as no one can remove any board member who doesn’t want to go, can’t see the NRL interfering again, someone has to come last, besides isn’t he is the major sponsor of the NRL as well?

BTW, we haven’t come last yet, though it is looking likely.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Knowing a sponsor, doesn’t mean you know what anyone will do, if Lee pulls the pin. I’d think Lee’s business puts in a substantial amount of cash.

From what I can see, Lee’s sponsorship is for naming rights on the jersey and the chair seat on the board.

But this is all just fantasy as no one can remove any board member who doesn’t want to go, can’t see the NRL interfering again, someone has to come last, besides isn’t he is the major sponsor of the NRL as well?

BTW, we haven’t come last yet, though it is looking likely.

I’ve got some access to perspectives.

We will be fine financially if Lee has a tanty. I will put my (dodgy) name to it.

The club is not beholden to Lee, nor should it be.

 

[Tigerm]

I’ve got some access to perspectives.

We will be fine financially if Lee has a tanty. I will put my (dodgy) name to it.

The club is not beholden to Lee, nor should it be.

Not sure a phantom’s name will cut it

Agree the club is not beholden to him, but he is a huge financial sponsor of the club and I would think no one is anywhere near him in sponsor money, and atm he has no reason to go.

Besides who will try, imo his legal business would wipe anyone out who tried?

 

[Tigerm]

As for club membership, we are middle of the pile, not to shabby for the wooden spooners.

2023 NRL Membership Tracker » League Unlimited

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[The Silverdale Phantom]

As for club membership, we are middle of the pile, not to shabby for the wooden spooners.

2023 NRL Membership Tracker » League Unlimited

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Yes, but this years membership was on the back of the new signings, promises galore and the suckers believing in Sheens, Bung head etc etc.

All of this has been swept aside by broken promises and the failed state of an nrl club we find ourselves in.

Just those podcast people leaving, our ugly lot here speaking up and if you visit the other site. Everyone’s rushing to the exit under this management.

The prognosis under this management is pretty poor.

Soon the rest of the media will follow and hopefully the board will see that there is no way through.

I don’t believe in ref conspiracies and I don’t think the nrl like us being exploited. I think they would be a bit grumpy that thousands of fans are tuning out. Hopefully they show more public interest.

Invite the Wt board to nrl hq and rip them a new one or give them an ultimatum. It’s the nrls comp.

If the nrl issue a show cause why we shouldn’t be punted from the comp, that would help our cause a lot.

 

[Ned Kelly]

Who could argue against an independent review?

How can I sign the petition?

Who could argue against an independent review?

Here ned

External Review of Wests Tigers Operations

The signatories of this petition demand that the Wests Tigers organisation be subjected to a thorough external review, encompassing all aspects of the organisation. This would include all aspects of governance, operational leadership, administration, day to day operations and football department...

www.petitions.net

Thanks for that

 

[Peach & Apricot]

You guys need someone better than an ambulance-chasing firm to sponsor you.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

You guys need someone better than an ambulance-chasing firm to sponsor you.

Funeral Home springs to mind.

We don’t need a review, we know what the problem is and who’s caused it. We know what needs to be done.

Everyone is prepared to accept a couple of years of adjustment with new board and managers to stop this disease from destroying us.

Cut the head off the snake.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

And as @macnaz knows, if our masters step aside, they will accuse us of being ungrateful.

 

[TroyJax]

Not sure a phantom’s name will cut it

Agree the club is not beholden to him, but he is a huge financial sponsor of the club and I would think no one is anywhere near him in sponsor money, and atm he has no reason to go.

Besides who will try, imo his legal business would wipe anyone out who tried?

Mate there are tonnes of companies looking to right off some taxable income. Someone will put their hand up.
As for Lee and his ambulance chasers…I’ve seen him threaten a few times now to zero outcome.

 

[Fordy20]

I don't see any point doing a review of operations. The problems are purely the lack of accountability at the governance level. Until we have a Bulldogs or Parramatta governance model, this club will continue to lurch from one drama to the next, wallowing in ineptitude and squandering the goodwill from 2005 and the pre joint venture history.

 

[Peach & Apricot]

Mate there are tonnes of companies looking to right off some taxable income. Someone will put their hand up.
As for Lee and his ambulance chasers…I’ve seen him threaten a few times now to zero outcome.

What happened to him suing the NRL over the game the Tigers lost last year? I suppose Lee collapsed faced by a serious corporate opponent as opposed to beating up on local cafes where people slipped over and want a payout.

 

[Tigerm]

Mate there are tonnes of companies looking to right off some taxable income. Someone will put their hand up.
As for Lee and his ambulance chasers…I’ve seen him threaten a few times now to zero outcome.

Yes there are tonnes of companies, but we were talking about the chairman’s position, because if you put in the major share of the money, you want some say in how it’s spent.

You have no guarantee, who that would be or if it will change anything? Look at the Bulldogs, they arguably got one of the smartest operators in Gould and they are not experiencing much better success than us.

IMO, the board got screwed by being talked into changing coaches and then not getting an upgrade replacement, Sheenius has been sacked more times than anyone that I’m aware of, but he somehow convinced them he was the answer.

We finally now have everything (money, facilities and a reasonable player list, we are just missing that one player, imo) we need to be successful except a coach, who can cut it in the modern game, TBF, we don’t know how Benji will go, but I certainly have my doubts?