f**k OFF. 4 Nations - only 2 Sharks. Fifita not considered

[Card Shark]

He is joking

The amount they seem to get it wrong, him picking it would not surprise me at all.

He has his hands in so many pies but he's a dick.

 

[Surely]

You are moralising and making a value judgment yourself.

One can have an opinion on something thats not a crime.

An example is that queue jumping whilst feral, its not a crime.

Whilst some crimes such as 'consorting' are not immoral.

Have I called for a player to be sacked or punished ever for something I find distatseful ?

That's the problem you guys have you want to push your judgements on other people, when we have laws that cover behavior

 

[Vin Fizz]

It's the mixed message from the NRL that I don't get. I guess im just dumb but apparently your are far better off being convicted of the one punch crime, doing your time, then welcomed back into the NRL fold (Russell Packer) than you are being a friend to a serving one. Can someone explain that to this numb skull please?

 

[Surely]

It's the mixed message from the NRL that I don't get. I guess im just dumb but apparently your are far better off being convicted of the one punch crime, doing your time, then welcomed back into the NRL fold (Russell Packer) than you are being a friend to a serving one. Can someone explain that to this numb skull please?

Its easy

Visiting a guy in prison who can play football to sign him on a contract before he is even released is a tale of support and redemption

Its when you visit or support guys who can't play football thats bad very bad.

 

[Card Shark]

Russell Packer is very f**king lucky he's not a killer.

What he did is worse than "1 punch".

 

[NrlVader]

Eels and Sea Eagles players were off limits too was the word.

 

[Q dave q]

Have I called for a player to be sacked or punished ever for something I find distatseful ?

That's the problem you guys have you want to push your judgements on other people, when we have laws that cover behavior

You yourself are moralising and making a value judgment by not standing up for the dead guy and criticising those who do.

I mean this dead innocent kid cant stand up for himself can he?

So thats a position in itself.

Thats the problem with "you guys" always criticising views you dont like or agree with.

Laws dont cover all behaviours and not every law is right.

I gave you the example.... perhaps you support or tolerate queue jumping because there is no actual law against it? What about dickheads who rush in and take the parking spot you are clearly waiting for? Is that Ok?

Do we need laws to cover every type of bad behaviour?

Theres no law against fifi for wearing his tribute, but its a deep, insensitive, poorly thought out and gratutitious insult to the Kelly's, their friends and wider family, the league community and most fair-minded, law abiding Australians.

The fact that he did it, shows just how immature and how in need of help the young and immature fifi is. Although as I said, I think he's redeemable.

 

[bad boy bubby]

The boys that missed out, won't be too disheartened.

All expenses paid, flying business class to Las Vegas for the team from sponsors.

Good to hear.
f**k the NRL and have a great time!!

 

[Surely]

You yourself are moralising and making a value judgment by not standing up for the dead guy and criticising those who do.

I mean this dead innocent kid cant stand up for himself can he?

So thats a position in itself.

Thats the problem with "you guys" always criticising views you dont like or agree with.

Laws dont cover all behaviours and not every law is right.

I gave you the example.... perhaps you support or tolerate queue jumping because there is no actual law against it? What about dickheads who rush in and take the parking spot you are clearly waiting for? Is that Ok?

Do we need laws to cover every type of bad behaviour?

Theres no law against fifi for wearing his tribute, but its a deep, insensitive, poorly thought out and gratutitious insult to the Kelly's, their friends and wider family, the league community and most fair-minded, law abiding Australians.

The fact that he did it, shows just how immature and how in need of help the young and immature fifi is. Although as I said, I think he's redeemable.

Im so glad Fifita didn't pinch a parking spot, what would the punishment be for that in your eyes Dave ?

 

[myrrh ken]

The fact that he did it, shows just how immature and how in need of help the young and immature fifi is. Although as I said, I think he's redeemable.

That's very charitable of you. Maybe Feefs thought the same of his mate KL

Do you understand that he is supporting him and not what he has done? And that it is a media beat up that brought it to everyone's attention and is perpertuating it?

 

[myrrh ken]

Good to hear.
f**k the NRL and have a great time!!

That's awesome and well deserved! Flanno can be at the pub every night now.

 

[millersnose]

Russell Packer is very f**king lucky he's not a killer.

What he did is worse than "1 punch".

Yeah I don't get it
It's like as long as the victim doesn't die then he isn't as much of a merkin as if they did die

It just doesn't make sense

 

[millersnose]

You yourself are moralising and making a value judgment by not standing up for the dead guy and criticising those who do.

I mean this dead innocent kid cant stand up for himself can he?

So thats a position in itself.

Thats the problem with "you guys" always criticising views you dont like or agree with.

Laws dont cover all behaviours and not every law is right.

I gave you the example.... perhaps you support or tolerate queue jumping because there is no actual law against it? What about dickheads who rush in and take the parking spot you are clearly waiting for? Is that Ok?

Do we need laws to cover every type of bad behaviour?

Theres no law against fifi for wearing his tribute, but its a deep, insensitive, poorly thought out and gratutitious insult to the Kelly's, their friends and wider family, the league community and most fair-minded, law abiding Australians.

The fact that he did it, shows just how immature and how in need of help the young and immature fifi is. Although as I said, I think he's redeemable.

Fifita may or may not be redeemable
But you are not
You are cursed to forever stumble around earth being a f**kwit

Have you noticed people slide away when you get near
Even your family
It isn't because they don't care about you
It's well...it's that you are a fucckwit

 

[Q dave q]

Im so glad Fifita didn't pinch a parking spot, what would the punishment be for that in your eyes Dave ?

Dislike and feelings of contempt from the aggrieved driver, i.e the same feelings as he probably gets from most people now.

If he really didn't think people were going to be upset by it, the poor kid makes Willie Mason look like Richard Feynman

 

[Weaponhead]

You yourself are moralising and making a value judgment by not standing up for the dead guy and criticising those who do.

I mean this dead innocent kid cant stand up for himself can he?

So thats a position in itself.

Thats the problem with "you guys" always criticising views you dont like or agree with.

Laws dont cover all behaviours and not every law is right.

I gave you the example.... perhaps you support or tolerate queue jumping because there is no actual law against it? What about dickheads who rush in and take the parking spot you are clearly waiting for? Is that Ok?

Do we need laws to cover every type of bad behaviour?

Theres no law against fifi for wearing his tribute, but its a deep, insensitive, poorly thought out and gratutitious insult to the Kelly's, their friends and wider family, the league community and most fair-minded, law abiding Australians.

The fact that he did it, shows just how immature and how in need of help the young and immature fifi is. Although as I said, I think he's redeemable.

No one here is saying that what Fifita did was not poor judgment and insensitive to the Kelly's and their friends (got nothing to do with the league community and wider community, their outrage is confected).

What we are arguing is let the punishment fit the crime, let due process be transparent and be consistent.

Mal Meninga supported his murderer brother at a QLD Origin press conference, wearing QLD gear. Why not the outcry over the poor victims then? Why not the 'he is using NRL as a political vehicle to support a killer' articles from Kent and the like.

Greenburg and Grant now pontificating about the Kangaroos being upstanding citizens when most of the squad have public atrocities far worse than offending people. Speculation that Fifita was omitted from consideration for the CC medal. Anyone seriously think the NRL are too pure for that.

Whilst empathising with the Kelly's how about imagining if you were a family member of Loveridge and you knew he was suicidal and you reached out to someone he knew and respected to show some support. This person did show some support through visits and a coded message on a wrist band. Regardless of what he did, he is also a human being.

As has been said previously the only difference between Loveridge and Russell Packer is luck. The outrage from certain St George supporters over Fifita whilst welcoming Packer is an odd set of moral gymnastics.

 

[Dragons 09]

As has been said previously the only difference between Loveridge and Russell Packer is luck. The outrage from certain St George supporters over Fifita whilst welcoming Packer is an odd set of moral gymnastics.

No moral gymnastics here.

I do think Fifita is a train wreck waiting to happen, but what 20 something year old's aren't? I was, but eventually one grows up. Did he do anything illegal? No. Is he young, foolish and full of bravado? Yes, but when was that made a crime? And you are right, Packer would be sharing a cell with Loveridge today if things went slightly differently.

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

Dislike and feelings of contempt from the aggrieved driver, i.e the same feelings as he probably gets from most people now.

If he really didn't think people were going to be upset by it, the poor kid makes Willie Mason look like Richard Feynman

 

[Q dave q]

"Being a good person is much more important than being a good footballer."

The defence for the Kelly kid rests.

 

[NrlVader]

Good to see Jimmy and Val supporting Andrew

Andrew Fifita's Cronulla team-mate, James Maloney, says the omission of the Sharks prop from Australia's Four Nations side is a questionable call.

Prospective debutant Maloney, who played alongside Fifita in the Sharks' maiden premiership victory on Sunday, said it was risky to start punishing people before they were technically convicted of anything.

Val said he'll slap him if he leaves.

NRL, probably tell Val the slap word is a poor choice too.

 

[Weaponhead]

Maloney questioning the process quite rightly. Good to see someone stepping away from the corporate line. No doubt Maloney will pay a price.