Few Changes that Might Help

[Twizzle]

Have you stopped taking your medication?

Suity

just doing my True Eel impersonation

 

[Suitman]

geez guys - chill out

I'm not serious mate.

Suity

 

[True EEL]

Ricky is that you????

who knows, maybe it is. i don't agree with most things Stuart tries, but clearly he can see the signs about Hayne playing 5/8. He was late to a couple of positional defensive assignments again on the weekend and he still doesn't support the ball like he should be doing at Fullback.

Parra looked best when Hayne was controlling the play first or second pass off the ruck. He was in everything positive when we had the ball. He also sounds like he wants to play 5/8. Its good enough for the City team and maybe the NSW team.

AS for Roberts, I'm not trying to condemn him, but did you all fail too see his deficiencies as a playmaker?? Brain explosions and poor decisions one after another. Horrible forward pass in the first half....horrible kick (with no chasers) on the third tackle late in the game. We were lucky the fullback tripped and we got a a repeat set. He knocks on cold on play 2 the next set and then later throws a wild pass out over the sideline. Without those errors and Joseph Paulo's horrid dummy-half pass, we win that game.

As I said, Roberts strengths (running game and decent defence) are our weaknesses at left centre right now.

 

[True EEL]

Oh........you wanted constructive feedback?

f**k off idiot.

Suity

yes, i did want constructive feedback....obviously you're not capable of providing it?

 

[Forty20]

Hayne doing a 360 on playing 5/8 would mean he still doesn't want to play 5/8...

 

[True EEL]

No problem. It's as constructive as your agenda driven original post

Its my opinion and at least i'm capable of sticking to it instead of chopping and changing on a wim like some posters. Call it an agenda if you like. I have said since mid 2010 that Hayne should be at 5/8, so its nothing new. Am I suggesting that Roberts be punted from the side?? No. Apart from his deficiencies as a consistent playmaker, he has value to the team

 

[Djay]

I reckon roberts has been one of our best players so far so why should he be moved? He plays with passion aswell and that's something I love.

 

[Eels Dude]

I'll be interesting to see how Hayne performs playing 5'8th for city this week. In saying that Roberts has been good this year. His support players have let him down and an overall lack of communication from the side in attack hasn't helped. Regardless Roberts isn't a centre, silly idea.

Burt is not a better fullback than Hayne, but he does seem better organizing the defence. When you go to games watching Burt at fullback he's yelling out a lot more and trying to get things organized something Hayne doesn't seem to do. Burt obviously lacks in other areas though.

I prefer Moimoi as a front rower. We get the opposition on the backfoot early with Fui's damaging runs up the middle. Mannah and Allgood are great front rowers but they don't make tackle busts like Fui does.

 

[True EEL]

Hayne doing a 360 on playing 5/8 would mean he still doesn't want to play 5/8...

LOL, well, you're right, ok a 180 then, my bad ;-)

 

[True EEL]

I reckon roberts has been one of our best players so far so why should he be moved? He plays with passion aswell and that's something I love.

You're right. Roberts does play with passion and I do like that about him also. Sometimes though, that passion also causes some poor decision making from him. I'm truly only suggesting such a change as I think his strengths are worth testing at centre - where we are wfare thin right now.

Moving him doesn't mean he still can't be effective in attack!?!? He is a strong ball-runner. Its a much bigger strength IMHO than his ball-playing. Give him some early ball and get him running into holes.....might even have Hayne giving him good, early ball....???

 

[Bazal]

Its my opinion and at least i'm capable of sticking to it instead of chopping and changing on a wim like some posters. Call it an agenda if you like. I have said since mid 2010 that Hayne should be at 5/8, so its nothing new. Am I suggesting that Roberts be punted from the side?? No. Apart from his deficiencies as a consistent playmaker, he has value to the team

It's nothing new, but it's tired and Roberts is making you look like more of a dick every week.

 

[Djay]

You're right. Roberts does play with passion and I do like that about him also. Sometimes though, that passion also causes some poor decision making from him. I'm truly only suggesting such a change as I think his strengths are worth testing at centre - where we are wfare thin right now.

Moving him doesn't mean he still can't be effective in attack!?!? He is a strong ball-runner. Its a much bigger strength IMHO than his ball-playing. Give him some early ball and get him running into holes.....might even have Hayne giving him good, early ball....???

I do see where your coming from, but my argument is why change something that works. Ok were not winning but his playing really well even those few games we were getting lapped, I like how he tries risky things I wouldn't call it a brain explosion.

I forgot what game it was but he threw a ball in our own 20 into touch, that pass comes off and were away down the touchline. He had the vision to do something that we haven't seen for years from our halves.

 

[True EEL]

I'll be interesting to see how Hayne performs playing 5'8th for city this week. In saying that Roberts has been good this year. His support players have let him down and an overall lack of communication from the side in attack hasn't helped. Regardless Roberts isn't a centre, silly idea.

Burt is not a better fullback than Hayne, but he does seem better organizing the defence. When you go to games watching Burt at fullback he's yelling out a lot more and trying to get things organized something Hayne doesn't seem to do. Burt obviously lacks in other areas though.

I prefer Moimoi as a front rower. We get the opposition on the backfoot early with Fui's damaging runs up the middle. Mannah and Allgood are great front rowers but they don't make tackle busts like Fui does.

it will be interesting to see how Hayne goes at 5/8....i am really hoping he plays well

Burt is a better organisier at fullback than Hayne and as i said his strengths outweigh his weaknesses as far as i'm concerned

Moimoi has been playing wide left backrow the past couple of weeks - like it or not - and and has looked better for it. Fui can be more effective running at smaller players out wide with some room to move rather than getting lined up every time by the opposition frontrowers

as for silly ideas mate....many people said Lockyer's not a 5/8, Hayne isn't a fullback, numerous player's aren't Hookers etc...conventions like that are meant to be broken at times

 

[Suitman]

It's nothing new, but it's tired and Roberts is making you look like more of a dick every week.

lol, but he doesn't need Roberts' help.

Suity

 

[True EEL]

It's nothing new, but it's tired and Roberts is making you look like more of a dick every week.

look, i'm trying to be positive about Roberts right now, but I will NOT cop that. Sure he played with passion and was trying things, but the FACT remains his 3 glaring mistakes with the ball late in the game....in-goal kick on the 3rd, dropped ball on the second next set and wild, out of bounds pass off Tonga's shoulder (in conjunction with Paulo's shocking dummy-half pass) cost us the game late when we had ALL the possession.....

 

[Bazal]

lol, but he doesn't need Roberts' help.

Suity

That's true, but it's funnier when he's a dick AND wrong

 

[Bazal]

look, i'm trying to be positive about Roberts right now, but I will NOT cop that. Sure he played with passion and was trying things, but the FACT remains his 3 glaring mistakes with the ball late in the game....in-goal kick on the 3rd, dropped ball on the second next set and wild, out of bounds pass off Tonga's shoulder (in conjunction with Paulo's shocking dummy-half pass) cost us the game late when we had ALL the possession.....

Hah! "Agenda agenda agenda, agenda, agenda, agenda"

Yeah, cos THAT cost us the game...not Esi's shocking defence, or our woeful finishing...Dig up man, seriously.

 

[Parra Pride]

look, i'm trying to be positive about Roberts right now, but I will NOT cop that. Sure he played with passion and was trying things, but the FACT remains his 3 glaring mistakes with the ball late in the game....in-goal kick on the 3rd, dropped ball on the second next set and wild, out of bounds pass off Tonga's shoulder (in conjunction with Paulo's shocking dummy-half pass) cost us the game late when we had ALL the possession.....

Yeah, those three soft tries we let in in the space of 10 minutes didn't cost us the game at all, it was all Roberts fault.

#YouWereRightAllAlong

 

[spartan2153]

it will be interesting to see how Hayne goes at 5/8....i am really hoping he plays well

Burt is a better organisier at fullback than Hayne and as i said his strengths outweigh his weaknesses as far as i'm concerned

Moimoi has been playing wide left backrow the past couple of weeks - like it or not - and and has looked better for it. Fui can be more effective running at smaller players out wide with some room to move rather than getting lined up every time by the opposition frontrowers

as for silly ideas mate....many people said Lockyer's not a 5/8, Hayne isn't a fullback, numerous player's aren't Hookers etc...conventions like that are meant to be broken at times

Lockyear was a 5/8 a; thru his junior days & only played fullback because he couldnt oust walsters at the time so him go back to 5/8 was only a matter of time.
but not yet. In another
Hayne will be a great / years yes.

Fui has had his worst 2 years since being put on the bench & playing out wide. He is a battering ram & should be used that way. He should only go out wide if they play a set move other whys let him mix it with the big boppas

 

[True EEL]

I do see where your coming from, but my argument is why change something that works. Ok were not winning but his playing really well even those few games we were getting lapped, I like how he tries risky things I wouldn't call it a brain explosion.

I forgot what game it was but he threw a ball in our own 20 into touch, that pass comes off and were away down the touchline. He had the vision to do something that we haven't seen for years from our halves.

But what is working exactly???

You're right, we are not winning games and we aren't even really getting better?! Hindy said himself we had enough ball late in both of the last two games to have easily won both and neither Sandow or Roberts as the main playmakers have got us over the line. Its true I have more faith in Sandow to come good than Roberts. But moving Roberts to centre (or lock as I also suggested) would better utilise his robust running game...

It would also allow Hayne to hopefully prove the doubters wrong from 5/8....right now nothing is working for Parra. Right now we need to put all our eggs in the Hayne basket. Put him at 5/8, demand that he runs the team, hell make him co-captain with Hindy.