Finals Systems

[The Engineers Room]

I like this system:

1		2	a	
3		8	b	loser eliminated
4		7	c	loser eliminated
5		6	d	loser eliminated
				
winner a	  v	bye		
loser a	  v	highest ranked winner	 e	
mid winner	v	lowest ranked winner	f	loser eliminated

winner a	v	winner e	g	
winner f	v	loser e	h	loser eliminated

winner g	v	bye		
loser g	v	winner h	i	loser eliminated

winner g	v	winner i

 

[NK Arsenal]

AFL has the best finals system.

 

[Knight87]

- Week 1 - 1 v 4 (A)
- 2 v 3 (B)
- 5 v 8 (C)
- 6 v 7 (D)
Loser(C) & Loser(D) eliminated.

- Week 2 - Loser(A) v Winner(D) (E)
- Loser(B) v Winner(C) (F)
Loser(E) & Loser(F) eliminated.

- Week 3 - Winner(A) v Winner(F) (G)
- Winner(B) v Winner(E) (H)
Loser(G) & Loser(H) eliminated.

- Week 4 - Winner(G) v Winner(H)

This was the system that was used in '96. '95 was similar, except i believe there wasn't the cross-over phase used in Week 2, so, there was the possibility of Week 1 rematches in Week 3

 

[The Engineers Room]

- Week 1 - 1 v 4 (A)
- 2 v 3 (B)
- 5 v 8 (C)
- 6 v 7 (D)
Loser(C) & Loser(D) eliminated.

- Week 2 - Loser(A) v Winner(D) (E)
- Loser(B) v Winner(C) (F)
Loser(E) & Loser(F) eliminated.

- Week 3 - Winner(A) v Winner(F) (G)
- Winner(B) v Winner(E) (H)
Loser(G) & Loser(H) eliminated.

- Week 4 - Winner(G) v Winner(H)

This was the system that was used in '96. '95 was similar, except i believe there wasn't the cross-over phase used in Week 2, so, there was the possibility of Week 1 rematches in Week 3

The original didn't have a cross over but they changed it.

 

[Marshall_magic]

AFL system is similar to the main gripe on the NRL system in that the minor premiers win their first finals game, get a week off then lose their 3rd game and they're gone.

 

[yosh64]

I dont really like the McIntyre system that much either. Too many games where its not close (1 v 8). The games should be between more competitive teams but where the top teams have some protection (some incentive to try and get into the top 4).

All the ideas i read were interesting but to natalie's daddy, that system goes for to long. 5 weeks is to long and there are just to many byes. Already there is talk about a bye being a disadvantage. And running through the system it has too many posibilities to have the same teams playing each other throughout the finals.

Marshall_magic, i like your idea cause the games are closer and the 1 and 2 team get the bye at the start but as was already written there is a good chance of 2 getting eliminated in the 2nd round (all it takes is 4 and 5 winning in the 2nd round and they are out).

Definetly need the 8 as it provides more teams, more revenue, more games. We claim quality wise its not that good but thats cause 1 v's 8. Below you find you dont have teams that far apart on the ladder so the games should be more competitive.

- Week 1 - 1 v 4 (A)
- 2 v 3 (B)
- 5 v 8 (C)
- 6 v 7 (D)
Loser(C) & Loser(D) eliminated.

- Week 2 - Loser(A) v Winner(D) (E)
- Loser(B) v Winner(C) (F)
Loser(E) & Loser(F) eliminated.

- Week 3 - Winner(A) v Winner(F) (G)
- Winner(B) v Winner(E) (H)
Loser(G) & Loser(H) eliminated.

- Week 4 - Winner(G) v Winner(H)

This was the system that was used in '96. '95 was similar, except i believe there wasn't the cross-over phase used in Week 2, so, there was the possibility of Week 1 rematches in Week 3

This is the best but its just the AFL format in a slightly different form. Below is the AFL format which is clearly the best around (only prob with it is the byes as has already been said, but i havent seen one that is perfect yet). 1-4 get the home final advantage right through to the final. 5-8 are in elimination rounds from the start and all matches are between teams that are close together on the ladder. Plus the top 4 teams have no chance of being eliminated in the first round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_finals_system

 

[Knight87]

Yeah, I agree with you yosh64. Home ground advantage needs to be extended through to weeks 2 and 3 as well.