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Five Nations: Samoa must stay

maple_69

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Wrong thread?

Anyway on the subject. I think a great investment would be for the ARLC to invest in an elite halves academy in Fiji for the best prospects in the Pacific Islands. Headed by someone world class like Johns or Fitler (plus we wouldn't have to listen to them on nine).

Let's face it, there's some outstanding talent out there but they rarely have decent halves. At a point its going to limit their development as serious nations. Send the top 2/3 halves prospects from each nation there for the summer.
 

Craigo

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This is where I think the PM's XIII needs to expand from just one game against PNG to a tour that also includes Fiji, Tonga and Samoa against local players, no NRL/ESL players.
 

Scubby

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This is where I think the PM's XIII needs to expand from just one game against PNG to a tour that also includes Fiji, Tonga and Samoa against local players, no NRL/ESL players.

No they need to play full tests and stop messing about stringing train-on players along.
 

ozenzud

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Tell the ARL to cancel that overhyped, OTT origin series, and play a couple of tests v England and Australia or from what I've seen, Samoa as well.

The test football on the weekend was better than the on field Origin stuff, which has become so completely overdramatised its a bad joke..
 

Dogs Of War

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Just if you go down this route, it must have the same money for all players in each country to ensure that players are playing for there country, not the cash.

And if you did the 5 nations, would you have the UK do somethign similar with France, Scotland, Wales etc?
 

Canard

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nz v Samoa on a Friday night after origin
Fiji v png Sunday afternoon
Tonga v Cook Islands on fox on sat

I'd watch it

That would kill it, as clubs would just withdraw there players from the game as it would impact on Club games.

To me this is a reason to have Origin on a standalone weekend, with this game on the Fri night before the Sunday or some combination thereof.

Tell the ARL to cancel that overhyped, OTT origin series, and play a couple of tests v England and Australia or from what I've seen, Samoa as well.

The test football on the weekend was better than the on field Origin stuff, which has become so completely overdramatised its a bad joke..

:lol::lol::lol: Good one.
 

paulmac

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There needs to be a Pacific Cup next year - PNG, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji. With NZ committed to England, and Australia not scheduled to play any tests as of yet, I think a schedule like this would be realistic:

October 16: Pacific Cup Round 1
October 23: NZ v Australia one-off, Pacific Cup Round 2
October 30: Pacific Cup Round 3, NZ v England 1
November 6: Australia v Pacific Cup Champions, NZ v England 2
November 13: NZ v England 3

Australia won't be involved in any post season football next year but I agree there should be a Pacific Cup next year with the winner playing in the 2016 SIX nations along with Australia, New Zealand,England,Scotland (2014 Euro Winners) and the 2015 Euro Cup winners.So my 2016 six nations would look like this ( assuming France and Samoa win their championships )
Week one - Australia v England,NZ v France,Scotland v Samoa
Week two - Australia v NZ ,England v Scotland,France v Samoa
Week three - Australia v Samoa,NZ v England,France v Scotland
Week four - FINAL ( 1 v 2 )
 

alien

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it wasnt that long ago tonga and fiji beat samoa, and fiji have been semi finalists in the last 2 world cups, so i dont think samoa should be in the tournament automatically..
 

deluded pom?

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it wasnt that long ago tonga and fiji beat samoa, and fiji have been semi finalists in the last 2 world cups, so i dont think samoa should be in the tournament automatically..

Fiji were robbed of a 4N spot. The original plan was to award the fourth spot to the best placed PI nation at the WC which we all know was Fiji. For whatever reason the powers that be decided they would have a playoff between the two highest placed PI nations. The rest is history.
 

alien

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the winner of the euro cup should play the winner of the colonial cup to qualify for the 4 nations
 

hutch

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Fiji were robbed of a 4N spot. The original plan was to award the fourth spot to the best placed PI nation at the WC which we all know was Fiji. For whatever reason the powers that be decided they would have a playoff between the two highest placed PI nations. The rest is history.

Exactly, and originally the Samoa v tonga test was booked in for 4 more years but they changed it to a Fiji v Samoa playoff for the four nations spot even though Fiji were meant to have already qualified. Only in rugby league hey!
 

miguel de cervantes

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This has been retracted, but where there is smoke, there is fire. Cracks opening up in Samoa. A change of regime in prospect.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ru...ckenham-accusing-hard-union-incompetence.html

Samoa threaten to boycott clash with England at Twickenham after accusing their hard up union of 'incompetence'


  • Senior Samoan players wrote to the International Rugby Board last week
  • They threatened to take strike action in protest at their cash-strapped union
  • 'As players, we're unhappy with the incompetence of the Samoan Rugby Union in its current shape and under its current leadership,’ the letter read
By Sam Peters for MailOnline
Published: 00:16 GMT, 13 November 2014 | Updated: 13:49 GMT, 13 November 2014

Samoa's players have threatened to boycott their side’s clash with England at Twickenham in next week after accusing their cash-strapped union of ‘incompetence’ and financial mismanagement.
It emerged on Wednesday that senior Samoan players wrote to the International Rugby Board last week threatening to take strike action in protest at their union’s failure to pay for flights and transport as well as a lack of financial transparency.
‘As players, we're unhappy with the incompetence of the Samoan Rugby Union in its current shape and under its current leadership,’ said the unnamed source in a letter addressed to the IRB and leaked to the Rugby Paper.
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Samoa's players have threatened to boycott their side’s clash with England at Twickenham in next week

‘We would like to notify you that we have called for the resignation of a number of senior officials within the Samoan Rugby Union and will be boycotting our game against England on the 22nd of November should our feelings not be addressed.
‘As a unified players group, it is felt that these issues are affecting our success on the field and we can no longer play under such poor leadership.
‘This has been coming for years. We're so poorly managed and poorly governed at the top and the players have had enough. There's heavy stuff going on.
'There's no communication between the SRU and the players, no transparency over funding and rugby in Samoa is dying out. The players are unified that the England game will not happen and that it's the only way to make the big-wigs take notice.’


Samoa's players accused their cash-strapped union of ‘incompetence’ and financial mismanagement

The IRB on Wednesday night confirmed the letter was genuine but insisted strike action, which would cost the RFU several million pounds, will be averted following talks between Samoa’s players – who earn a tiny fraction in comparison to England’s players – and union representatives.
‘On October 27, the IRB was made aware of concerns raised by the Samoa senior men's national squad regarding the administration of the Samoa Rugby Union,’ an IRB statement read.
‘This included an indication that the players would withdraw from the match against England on November 22 if their concerns were not heard.
‘Subsequently, the IRB engaged in dialogue with the Samoa Rugby Union and the International Rugby Players' Association to facilitate urgent and collaborative resolution.


Unknown source: ‘As players, we're unhappy with the incompetence of the Samoan Rugby Union'

‘With all parties, including the players, committed to ongoing dialogue, just under two weeks ago the players withdrew their proposed action to withdraw from the England match and the IRB fully expects the Union to undertake its obligation to honour its November Test programme commitment in full.’
The IRB announced a five-player shortlist for their world player of the year award which Ireland's Jonny Sexton the only British or Irish player to be named.
From the PM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/.../Samoan-PM-hits-out-at-childish-rugby-players
Reminding the players there are more sports than rugby, Tuilaepa said it might get to a point where the government will need to divert funding to other developments and focus solely on the Manu Samoa Sevens instead of the 15s.

"We're spending millions on these things and yet there are so much more developments needed by our country."

Tuilaepa played a rugby league card.

"We haven't given Toa Samoa a lot of money and they're now ranked fourth in the world," he said.

"How long have we tried to develop the Manu Samoa and yet we have slipped back to 11th?"
 

hutch

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interesting we (RL) get a mention :)

A bit silly considering they havnt developed rugby league at all. Toa Samoa are all aus/nz juniors, I wish they would start bloody developing the sport there properly.
Still good to see rugby league getting a mention for once though.
 

siv

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Ripe for a RL assault

If Fiji can get a NSW Cup tea. Then bring in Samoa as well
 

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