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R&WTILLIDIE

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Poor example.

We've gone from being one of the most successful clubs in the league to one of the also rans of the competition, and that has been reflected at the gate.

Putting Covid 2020 aside, how many games have people gone to over the last 10 years?

The new coach is supposed to turn that around, but questions regarding his policies were getting asked not long after his appointment was announced, starting with his "there is no racism in football" comment. Like most people, I'm hoping this was just a glitch.
Wait...what’s the “there is no racism in football” comment?
 

thebigredv

First Grade
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This is fun. Can you tell me more about my needs and what I should be thinking tomorrow?

The need for us to be competitive again.

Let's not politicise this game any further. Money has done a lot to disrupt this game already and soon litigation will mean it becomes a game of touch football. We have lost some great players of late and, in this moment, I can't blame the club for trying their luck with a player who is guaranteed to give us results.
 

boardlumps62

Juniors
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1,481
The need for us to be competitive again.

Let's not politicise this game any further. Money has done a lot to disrupt this game already and soon litigation will mean it becomes a game of touch football. We have lost some great players of late and, in this moment, I can't blame the club for trying their luck with a player who is guaranteed to give us results.
With the constant rule changes, thinking speed the game up, that's what it's becoming "Touch". Thank God (whoops that slipped out) we still have tackling.
 

R&WTILLIDIE

First Grade
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5,696
The need for us to be competitive again.

Let's not politicise this game any further. Money has done a lot to disrupt this game already and soon litigation will mean it becomes a game of touch football. We have lost some great players of late and, in this moment, I can't blame the club for trying their luck with a player who is guaranteed to give us results.

It’s not about how good he is. It’s about what he stands for, and how unrepentant he is.

just because you’re a good player doesn’t mean you can go out and say whatever you want and treat other people like shit and incite violence towards a group of people...ever heard of a bloke called Hitler...this is kind of similar in a way
 
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What happens if he finds out a fellow player is gay, does he cause a shit fight and send the place to hell?

Does he believe all gay dragon supporters should go to hell? (Read that as Shark Park)

Anyway, in my humble opinion, his views belong in the dark ages with Witch burners etc, so stuff him and hope the club wakes up realises the controversy isn’t worth it
 

Willow

Assistant Moderator
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The need for us to be competitive again.

Let's not politicise this game any further. Money has done a lot to disrupt this game already and soon litigation will mean it becomes a game of touch football. We have lost some great players of late and, in this moment, I can't blame the club for trying their luck with a player who is guaranteed to give us results.
Thanks for the reply.

But I've got some news for you, sport and politics have been getting mixed in together since ancient times.

Think about the events that brought about our great game. It was founded on political and social divisions, most notably a breakaway from the class divide where one side thought they were superior to others.

Of course it has been about money, Rugby League was the first professional sport in Australia, the second professional sport in England.

But as always, there are some thimgs that are more important than money.
 

thebigredv

First Grade
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It’s not about how good he is. It’s about what he stands for, and how unrepentant he is.

just because you’re a good player doesn’t mean you can go out and say whatever you want and treat other people like shit and incite violence towards a group of people...ever heard of a bloke called Hitler...this is kind of similar in a way

Didn't Hitler play for the Storm??

I get why people are put off, I do. As I said if we all spoke our minds about touchy subjects and all the players did no one would sign anywhere. He spoke his mind, other players in the NRL agree with his views but they don't broadcast it. If he stops broadcasting and the NRL give the green light then yes, let's take the two-time John Eales winning player and get him scoring us some points.

If you haven't noticed we an absolute rabble of a club as it stands.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

First Grade
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What happens if he finds out a fellow player is gay, does he cause a shit fight and send the place to hell?

Does he believe all gay dragon supporters should go to hell? (Read that as Shark Park)

Anyway, in my humble opinion, his views belong in the dark ages with Witch burners etc, so stuff him and hope the club wakes up realises the controversy isn’t worth it
I dont think he's a bad person, he is just a brainwashed idiot but the controversy that goes with him is probably not worth it, plus they are bringing him to play left centre which may cost us one or both Feagai bro's. I would honestly just prefer to play Max Feagai there and build for the future. He already looks very solid to me.
 

thebigredv

First Grade
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Thanks for the reply.

But I've got some news for you, sport and politics have been getting mixed in together since ancient times.

Think about the events that brought about our great game. It was founded on political and social divisions, most notably a breakaway from the class divide where one side thought they were superior to others.

Of course it has been about money, Rugby League was the first professional sport in Australia, the second professional sport in England.

But as always, there are some thimgs that are more important than money.

Let's not sign him because his views don't align to yours? or let's not sign him because he incites hatred?

My views are not the same as his. I see him as someone whose intentions were to do what he thinks is right in the Eyes of God, as much as we might not agree... it wasn't illegal and it wasn't in the same ball park as Donald Trump calling for a riot.

If the NRL says he can play then he is welcome at the Dragons for mine.
 

2218

Juniors
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Didn't Hitler play for the Storm??

I get why people are put off, I do. As I said if we all spoke our minds about touchy subjects and all the players did no one would sign anywhere. He spoke his mind, other players in the NRL agree with his views but they don't broadcast it. If he stops broadcasting and the NRL give the green light then yes, let's take the two-time John Eales winning player and get him scoring us some points.

If you haven't noticed we an absolute rabble of a club as it stands.
If he adapts. I’m a little sceptical
 

epDragon62

First Grade
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5,213
If he adapts. I’m a little sceptical
A tight contract and the experience that he went through should sort it out.

I think it is true that Folau's views are not unique to him within the ranks of the NRL, and I think there are many unsavoury characters playing the game at that level.

This is a complex issue, no doubt.
 

Gippsy

Bench
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4,817
What, all of them? And they all publicly say this? Do all christians agree with Folau? Because that appears to be your stance.

If we had any player promoting hate against minorities, I don't want them to be part of our club.

I don't care if they're christian, muslim, pagan or jedi. It has nothing to with their so-called beliefs, it's just outright bigotry and ignorance.

Yes, most Muslims would share his opinion. No, the majority of Christians wouldn't, although many would. My "stance" is simply that many people share his opinions and/or beliefs and there are probably a lot of them that already play NRL. It seems his crime was to make his opinion public, combined with his high profile, and of course having an opinion and/or beliefs that a lot of people disagree with.
 

Gippsy

Bench
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How do you know the opinions of any particular Muslim? There are plenty of Christians who don't believe the homophobic elements of Christianity. There could be just as many Muslims who don't agree with the homophobic elements of Islam. I wouldn't assume that all Muslims are homophobic any more than I would assume that all Christians are.


Maximum sentences in countries that criminalise homosexuality:

LIFE:

:flag_gm:Gambia

:flag_gh:Ghana

:flag_tz:Tanzania

:flag_sl:Sierra Leone

:flag_bb:Barbados

:flag_gy:Guyana

:flag_bd:Bangladesh

20 YEARS:

:flag_my:Malaysia

17 YEARS:

:flag_eg:Egypt

15 YEARS:

:flag_ag:Antigua and Barbuda

14 YEARS:

:flag_ke:Kenya

:flag_mw:Malawi

:flag_zm:Zambia

:flag_ae:United Arab Emirates

:flag_pg:Papua New Guinea

:flag_tv:Tuvalu

:flag_sb:Solomon Islands

:flag_ki:Kiribati

:flag_ng:Nigeria

10 YEARS:

:flag_ss:South Sudan

:flag_et:Ethiopia

:flag_dm:Dominica

:flag_gd:Grenada

:flag_jm:Jamaica

:flag_kn:Saint Kitts and Nevis

:flag_lc:Saint Lucia

:flag_lk:Sri Lanka

:flag_to:Tonga

:flag_zw:Zimbabwe

:flag_vc:Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

7 YEARS:

:flag_ws:Samoa

:flag_qa:Qatar

:flag_kw:Kuwait

5 YEARS:

:flag_cm:Cameroon

:flag_sn:Senegal

:flag_km:Comoros

:flag_mu:Mauritius

4 YEARS:

:flag_ly:Libya

3 YEARS:

:flag_ma:Morocco

:flag_tg:Togo

:flag_uz:Uzbekistan

:flag_gn:Guinea

:flag_er:Eritrea

:flag_om:Oman

:flag_sy:Syria

:flag_tn:Tunisia

2 YEARS:

:flag_dz:Algeria

:flag_bi:Burundi

:flag_tm:Turkmenistan

:flag_pk:Pakistan

1 YEAR:

:flag_lr:Liberia

UNDISCLOSED:

:flag_td:Chad

:flag_na:Namibia

:flag_sz:Swaziland

Countries that carry fines for convicted homosexuality:

:flag_ao:Angola

Countries where a homosexuality conviction caries torture as a punishment:

:flag_mv:Maldives - whipping for 20 strokes

Countries that carry the death penalty:

:flag_mr:Mauritania - for Muslim men

:flag_ng:Nigeria - northern states that approve Sharia Law

:flag_qa:Qatar - for Muslims, for extra-marital sex

:flag_so:Somalia

:flag_ir:Iran

:flag_sa:Saudi Arabia

:flag_ye:Yemen

:flag_iq::flag_af:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levent Afghanistan - where controlled by Al-Qaeda

https://www.outlife.org.uk/which-co...MItK-YzZLN7gIV0xx9Ch05HA2kEAAYASAAEgLZ9_D_BwE
 

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