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Former Panthers in the NRL

soc123_au

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betcats said:
They are really giving it to him lol was he that bad? I didn’t watch.
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He made a few poor defensive reads & Ravalala kept him in check when he had the ball. Not one of his best games, but hardly worth dropping him over. Parra's attack was pretty clunky across the board, the scoring chances he got were off the back of shitty passes. Clean crisp ball & he would have scored at least one or two.
 
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soc123_au said:
He made a few poor defensive reads & Ravalala kept him in check when he had the ball. Not one of his best games, but hardly worth dropping him over. Parra's attack was pretty clunky across the board, the scoring chances he got were off the back of shitty passes. Clean crisp ball & he would have scored at least one or two.
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One guy over there wants him dropped along with Waqa and reckons Nathan brown and Jennings is not far off being dropped hahah bit drastic
 
franklin2323

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soc123_au said:
He made a few poor defensive reads & Ravalala kept him in check when he had the ball. Not one of his best games, but hardly worth dropping him over. Parra's attack was pretty clunky across the board, the scoring chances he got were off the back of shitty passes. Clean crisp ball & he would have scored at least one or two.
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That is the issue I see with him. Doesn't do the basics well. Fast and can streamroll guys but no plan B
 
The_Frog

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betcats said:
One guy over there wants him dropped along with Waqa and reckons Nathan brown and Jennings is not far off being dropped hahah bit drastic
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Nathan Brown was their best player. Jennings has been good all year and so has Sivo. Waqa is just Waqa. That's what you get. Very occasionally he'll show brilliance. His try assist pass looked well forward. RCG starting to return to normal.
 
WestyLife

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Jane Murray said:
It is the way he left that left a sour taste in my mouth.
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Sure but we only have the club's side of the story and by all accounts he's a wonderful man off field who, I'd also remind everyone, didn't bad mouth the club when he left even though journos tried to bait him at the time. I'd say having an issue around position in the team and leaving can be forgiven.
 
mxlegend99

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franklin2323 said:
There were issues we had that got papered over cause we were winning. Was easier to blame hook than the players. So now we see this
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Under hook we gave teams a 2 try hard start every week.

This year we have only conceded one try in the opening 20 minutes of games and it was round 1.

Hook had us fit and that was the end of it. There was no game plan. Even Gus made fun of that while he was still our coach. He liked to play simple risk free footy and hope that we could win with superior fitness. Which is why his record against top 4 teams was pathetic. His superior roster beat the shit teams and that was it.

He could probably be a great resource for a club that used him the right way. Not anywhere near game plans, attacking or defensive structure s.
 
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WestyLife said:
Sure but we only have the club's side of the story and by all accounts he's a wonderful man off field who, I'd also remind everyone, didn't bad mouth the club when he left even though journos tried to bait him at the time. I'd say having an issue around position in the team and leaving can be forgiven.
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Reportedly, he was dropped, then requested, and was given, a re-lease, that is a tad convenient for me.
 
WestyLife

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Jane Murray said:
Reportedly, he was dropped, then requested, and was given, a re-lease, that is a tad convenient for me.
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So? Many players have changed clubs due to wanting a certain position. It's the players career so if they think they have a Better chance for their preferred position at another club than there's no ethical or moral issue with that. It happens in the workforce all the time.
 
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WestyLife said:
So? Many players have changed clubs due to wanting a certain position. It's the players career so if they think they have a Better chance for their preferred position at another club than there's no ethical or moral issue with that. It happens in the workforce all the time.
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He had a sulk and he acted like a child. Also, I do not care what other players, from other clubs do. I think we are better off with out him.
 
WestyLife

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Jane Murray said:
He had a sulk and he acted like a child. Also, I do not care what other players, from other clubs do. I think we are better off with out him.
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Yes I know. You're looking at it from the perspective of a fan who thinks the players owe you something.
 
The_Frog

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mxlegend99 said:
Under hook we gave teams a 2 try hard start every week.

This year we have only conceded one try in the opening 20 minutes of games and it was round 1.

Hook had us fit and that was the end of it. There was no game plan. Even Gus made fun of that while he was still our coach. He liked to play simple risk free footy and hope that we could win with superior fitness. Which is why his record against top 4 teams was pathetic. His superior roster beat the shit teams and that was it.

He could probably be a great resource for a club that used him the right way. Not anywhere near game plans, attacking or defensive structure s.
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Yet for all that he was the first and only coach in the club's history to make the finals three years running.

But if your point is that this team is better its hard to argue.
 
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mxlegend99 said:
Hook had us fit and that was the end of it. There was no game plan. Even Gus made fun of that while he was still our coach. He liked to play simple risk free footy and hope that we could win with superior fitness. Which is why his record against top 4 teams was pathetic. His superior roster beat the shit teams and that was it.

He could probably be a great resource for a club that used him the right way. Not anywhere near game plans, attacking or defensive structure s.
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I think to be fair to Hook, not only did he get us fit, but he was also big on playing aggressive football, our forwards played some really aggressive football under him, both with and without the ball. I will never forget the game against St George in 2018 when we smashed their (more fancied pack) into the turf to take first place. Not only our fitness but our aggression and never say die attitude also won us games.

I have heard those coached by Bennett (such as Wendell Sailor) say on more that one occasion that Bennett also never coached attack. He believed that if the forwards dominated, you had skilled halves and you earned good field position then you’d score points and win. That might have worked well in the past but defenses are too good now.

Griffin had plenty of short comings (and I don’t want to turn this thread into a debate about coaches), but I expect Griffin would do a much better job at Brisbane than Seibold. The Broncos look unfit, lack self belief and play with no aggression despite the size of their pack.
 
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