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Forward Pass Technology

King Ben

Juniors
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Just apply the rule correctly

And f**k that ball strip rule off , it’s another rule change that Bellamy as milked to the full.

I was in favour of that change until we did it perfectly in Round 1 of whatever year it changed (Fifita stripped the ball after another player peeled off) and we still got penalised.
 

Windy70

Juniors
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I like the idea but like you guys can see a ton of issues.

Does this tech look at the pass from multiple angles, beep n boop - calculate and give a green or red light in 1/4 of a second? Or is it something that makes it possible for the video ref to make an "informed" call on with some extra information and data?

Trying to get my head around how this will work when it is all about how the ball leaves the hands and the position of the receiver when it does.
 

Chimp

Bench
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With the amount of cheerleading Buzz is doing for this, I reckon he's on commission - wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for a media 'personality' to be tapped up and have an agenda.

On a related theme, I liked what Annesley said last week about making the game easier to ref - example, 2 players jump for a bomb, 1 comes down with it, does it matter if it brushed his fingertip and then the hair of an opponent (this making it a knock on) - if it's a fair challenge, and one comes down with the ball, play on.
 

Card Shark

Immortal
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Does this tech look at the pass from multiple angles, beep n boop - calculate and give a green or red light in 1/4 of a second? Or is it something that makes it possible for the video ref to make an "informed" call on with some extra information and data?

Trying to get my head around how this will work when it is all about how the ball leaves the hands and the position of the receiver when it does.

Hopefully it just uses 2 frames. 1 when the ball was last touching the player & the very next 1 when it leaves the hand. Direction can be determined from these 2 points.

Seems like a difficult thing to achieve but there are some smart buggers out there.
 

Feej

First Grade
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The funny thing about rule changes and the media is the way that they push an agenda for a rule change and then criticise the shit out of it when it brought in.
 

Eion

First Grade
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The funny thing about rule changes and the media is the way that they push an agenda for a rule change and then criticise the shit out of it when it brought in.
Exactly. It’s absolutely deliberate to keep the news cycle ticking. And the dopey NRL fall for it every time.
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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I like the idea but like you guys can see a ton of issues.

Does this tech look at the pass from multiple angles, beep n boop - calculate and give a green or red light in 1/4 of a second? Or is it something that makes it possible for the video ref to make an "informed" call on with some extra information and data?

Trying to get my head around how this will work when it is all about how the ball leaves the hands and the position of the receiver when it does.

Nope. Receiver is irrelevant.

Annesley on NRL 360 and related article said:
Annesley said that any Hawkeye technology to be used on forward passes would only be implemented in try-scoring situations, and would need to measure what direction the ball travels at the moment it leaves a players hands.

"I asked the question as to what technology is feasibly possible to measure the ball as it comes out of the hands and the movement of the players hands," Annesley said.

"Because that's the only thing that matters in forward passes.

"I was told that similar types of technology exist and are being developed around limb tracking and tracking the movement of players around the field.

"We want to be convinced that it has a high degree of accuracy.

"But if we can determine this one way or another I think it can certainly be of great benefit to the game. Often these last passes leading up to tries are the ones that cause the most angst with fans and clubs."
 

snout

First Grade
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On a related theme, I liked what Annesley said last week about making the game easier to ref - example, 2 players jump for a bomb, 1 comes down with it, does it matter if it brushed his fingertip and then the hair of an opponent (this making it a knock on) - if it's a fair challenge, and one comes down with the ball, play on.
Imagine how the game would open up if we did away with yhe knockon altogether.
Drop a ball? Dive on it.
Drop a bomb? Play on.
Go for an intercept and knock it down? Pick it up and take off.

Just no deliberate throwing it forward.
 
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Windy70

Juniors
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Hopefully it just uses 2 frames. 1 when the ball was last touching the player & the very next 1 when it leaves the hand. Direction can be determined from these 2 points.

Seems like a difficult thing to achieve but there are some smart buggers out there.

Yea mate, looks like it would convert that 10 or 20mm of motion into a drawn path that can be easily judged on. Clever merkins.

Some prick will hack it when we play lol
 

Big Bloke

Juniors
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Imagine how the game would open up if we did away with yhe knockon altogether.
Drop a ball? Dive on it.
Drop a bomb? Play on.
Go for an intercept and knock it down? Pick it up and take off.

Just no deliberate throwing it forward.

Go and watch AFL.
 

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