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Foxtel slams TV rip-off claim

yappy

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No channel hoping to make a profit would not put in a bid for the NRL if they were capable of showing it. Of course.

Ah, so when you wrote "It is difficult to negotiate for more money when there is only one bidder." you were clearly assuming that Seven and Ten are both channels that neither hope to make a profit nor are capable of showing it?

7 has had the AFL since which has done well for them.
They should have got the Iron Chef - he'd have done better in Sydney. (the biggest and richest TV market in the country)

Meanwhile, you bring up articles from 4 years ago to prove a point about what Channel 7 would do now or in the future?

I'll try and type in single syllables for you. I did not bring up a four year old article to prove a point about what 7 would do now or in the future. It was obvious to those with an iq above room temperature that the article countered your bullsh*t assertion that "Seven were not 100% committed to making a suitable bid". That's why I even added your tripe as a quote. There was plenty of public statements made at the time from Seven that they were very keen indeed to bid (especially keen due to not having the AFL), so your assertion about not being 100% committed is simply crap you've made up to support your creaky position. FTA rights haven't been up for grabs since the early 90's. Nine was given the rights as part of the peace deal and had them renewed without ever having to go to tender.

It ain't me trying to prove points about what TV operators may or may not do. You're the one making the assumptions - only problem is you can't decide which side of the street you're on from one post to the next:

No channel hoping to make a profit would not put in a bid for the NRL if they were capable of showing it. Of course.

It is difficult to negotiate for more money when there is only one bidder.
 
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bullsh*tting again are we eastsrule? The last time the rights were up C7 made a bid that even the NRL's own analysis showed was worth at least $50million more than the Foxtel bid that they accepted. That was 2000.

The rights have never come up since then because the NRL in a cosy little deal with the existing rights holders extended them without letting either the FTA or PayTV rights lapse. Seven is on record saying they would be keen to bid on the rights if they went to open tender (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/20/1092972743273.html?from=storyrhs) however they were never given the chance.

even if the NRL only give seven 2 games a week as a starter, that would shake fox up.

would they want to lose 2 of their highest ratings shows a week?

imagine if it were live monday night footy.

fox would go crazy
 
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thats the problem.

fox sports do a good job

channel 9 are the ones who should be under the heat

fox do a good job of paying AFL more whilst the NRL gets 40% more viewers.

that might be a good job for their shareholders, but its not a good deal for RL.

40% more viewers = 40% more money.

its really that simple.
 
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Ah, so when you wrote "It is difficult to negotiate for more money when there is only one bidder." you were clearly assuming that Seven and Ten are both channels that neither hope to make a profit nor are capable of showing it?


They should have got the Iron Chef - he'd have done better in Sydney. (the biggest and richest TV market in the country)



I'll try and type in single syllables for you. I did not bring up a four year old article to prove a point about what 7 would do now or in the future. It was obvious to those with an iq above room temperature that the article countered your bullsh*t assertion that "Seven were not 100% committed to making a suitable bid". That's why I even added your tripe as a quote. There was plenty of public statements made at the time from Seven that they were very keen indeed to bid (especially keen due to not having the AFL), so your assertion about not being 100% committed is simply crap you've made up to support your creaky position. FTA rights haven't been up for grabs since the early 90's. Nine was given the rights as part of the peace deal and had them renewed without ever having to go to tender.

It ain't me trying to prove points about what TV operators may or may not do. You're the one making the assumptions - only problem is you can't decide which side of the street you're on from one post to the next:

mate hes a union fan, dont expect him to really give 2 s**ts about it,
 

Digga Hole

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Ah, so when you wrote "It is difficult to negotiate for more money when there is only one bidder." you were clearly assuming that Seven and Ten are both channels that neither hope to make a profit nor are capable of showing it?

Clearly you are an idiot. His point, which you convieniently left off the quote was "if they were capable of showing it". Post their comment about being interested (4 years ago) they got the AFL rights. Hence not being capable of properly showing RL.



I'll try and type in single syllables for you. I did not bring up a four year old article to prove a point about what 7 would do now or in the future. It was obvious to those with an iq above room temperature that the article countered your bullsh*t assertion that "Seven were not 100% committed to making a suitable bid". That's why I even added your tripe as a quote. There was plenty of public statements made at the time from Seven that they were very keen indeed to bid (especially keen due to not having the AFL), so your assertion about not being 100% committed is simply crap you've made up to support your creaky position. FTA rights haven't been up for grabs since the early 90's. Nine was given the rights as part of the peace deal and had them renewed without ever having to go to tender.
I can't believe you question someones IQ and then post that crap.

Between your artcile from 4 years ago and when the NRL rights were up channel 7 got both the AFL and the V8 Supercars. By the time to bid they were never capable of properly showing RL. Thats the point.

Either you are a head in the sand idiot, or you listen to too many of them! Plenty of conspiracy theories around, we seem to be a little short on facts at times tho.

This is why I mention multi-channeling. Not to troll, but to provide debate. Some would rather whinge than discuss solutions tho.
 
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Dogs Of War

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They may as well have just said we are going to rip you off.

As far as I am concerned, I am going to cancel my foxtel and go to the pub instead and watch the games. Prefer my money to be spent with someone who appreciates it, rather than a company who would prefer to give it to another sport hoping for growth potential.
 
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They may as well have just said we are going to rip you off.

As far as I am concerned, I am going to cancel my foxtel and go to the pub instead and watch the games. Prefer my money to be spent with someone who appreciates it, rather than a company who would prefer to give it to another sport hoping for growth potential.

if you do, tell them why you are cancelling.
 

eastsrule

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Clearly you are an idiot. His point, which you convieniently left off the quote was "if they were capable of showing it". Post their comment about being interested (4 years ago) they got the AFL rights. Hence not being capable of properly showing RL.




I can't believe you question someones IQ and then post that crap.

Between your artcile from 4 years ago and when the NRL rights were up channel 7 got both the AFL and the V8 Supercars. By the time to bid they were never capable of properly showing RL. Thats the point.

Either you are a head in the sand idiot, or you listen to too many of them! Plenty of conspiracy theories around, we seem to be a little short on facts at times tho.

This is why I mention multi-channeling. Not to troll, but to provide debate. Some would rather whinge than discuss solutions tho.

You got it right.

Don't expect much logic from chandos and friends. They still think the SL war is on.
 

El Diablo

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I can't believe you question someones IQ and then post that crap.

Between your artcile from 4 years ago and when the NRL rights were up channel 7 got both the AFL and the V8 Supercars.

Clearly tour IQ is in the minuses

Channel 7 did not have the AFL TV rights by the time the NRL were up for grabs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200507/1405199.htm?queensland

A new television rights deal struck by the National Rugby League (NRL) may reduce Channel Nine's ability to make a competitive bid for the AFL rights

so explain that Digga

if the AFL rights had already been signed by 7 then that sentence would make zero sense. fact is it makes complete sense because the NRL rights were up fir grabs well before the AFL ones were

dickhead
 

Digga Hole

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Clearly tour IQ is in the minuses

Channel 7 did not have the AFL TV rights by the time the NRL were up for grabs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200507/1405199.htm?queensland



so explain that Digga

if the AFL rights had already been signed by 7 then that sentence would make zero sense. fact is it makes complete sense because the NRL rights were up fir grabs well before the AFL ones were

dickhead

OK dickhead, I will.

It NEVER mattered what Nine thought, wanted or planned to do.

Well before the NRL deal was signed Seven and Ten joined forces to bid for the AFL. At this time IT WAS A DONE DEAL. Seven had a first and last rights agreement that they had paid for years ago and were always going to use it, hence Ten jumping ship from Nine to Seven.

When the NRL deal was signed, Seven had already committed to AFL, hence why the NRL jumped early and re-signed Nine.

You can believe all the conspiracy theories and fairytales you like, but by the time the NRL rights were going to be opened for bidding Seven had committed to AFL and hence NRLs sale to Nine.
 

yappy

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Clearly you are an idiot. His point, which you convieniently left off the quote was "if they were capable of showing it". Post their comment about being interested (4 years ago) they got the AFL rights. Hence not being capable of properly showing RL.

you mean left off the quote like here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by eastsrule
No channel hoping to make a profit would not put in a bid for the NRL if they were capable of showing it. Of course.

Ah, so when you wrote "It is difficult to negotiate for more money when there is only one bidder." you were clearly assuming that Seven and Ten are both channels that neither hope to make a profit nor are capable of showing it?

and I'm clearly the idiot. you can't even read you tool.

I can't believe you question someones IQ and then post that crap.

Between your artcile from 4 years ago and when the NRL rights were up channel 7 got both the AFL and the V8 Supercars. By the time to bid they were never capable of properly showing RL. Thats the point.

Oh so the awarding of the NRL TV rights that were extended in JUNE 2005 actually happened AFTER the AFL TV rights deal that finished in JANUARY 2006 when ten/seven matched the nine bid. They actually also happened AFTER the MAY 2006 awarding of the AVESCO rights to Seven. I'll question your IQ all day long when you prove yourself to be a dope. From 2004 Seven were making public statement to the NRL that if the rights were put to tender that they would make a serious bid. They had NO AFL, nor V8 rights when the NRL decided to extend the deal without a tender. It's pretty simple even for a simpleton like you. At the time they had more than enough capacity to show the games, and an expressed desire to do so.

And despite your ignorance they can still show the NRL now if they wanted it bad enough. Nine only gives decent coverage in NSW and QLD so covering the aerial ping pong elsewhere simply doesn't come into it. What do Seven have up against the NRL next Friday in Sydney? Better Homes and Gardens and Princess Diaries 2 - the AFL is shunted to 11:30 because it appears 7 is a channel that wants to make money. They'd kill for leagues Friday night ratings in Sydney and Brisbane. They're showing the Tri-nations tonight, but the Bill will go close to topping that. They only show a couple of tests in this slot a year and would love the week in week out ratings Saturday Night League would give them. Tomorrow Seven has V8's right up until 3pm! Well I wonder if they'd like to use that to lead into the ratings block buster that will be Sydney v Carlton, or the NRL - actually I don't wonder at all, it's the league by so far you can't see the AFL dragging it's sorry arse in the distance. They can fob the AFL off to Fox like they do on other days in NSW and QLD. V8's aren't on every weekend - but those beautiful league ratings just keep on producing the goods all winter long. And of course there's no reason why 7 couldn't show the games on Monday nights with Border Security's good ratings leading into an 8 or 8:30 game to ensure 7 wins the night. No impediement at all to Seven showing as many league games as Nine currently do, or even more if they so chose.

Either you are a head in the sand idiot, or you listen to too many of them! Plenty of conspiracy theories around, we seem to be a little short on facts at times tho.

This is why I mention multi-channeling. Not to troll, but to provide debate. Some would rather whinge than discuss solutions tho.

If I'm a head in the sand idiot at least I'm a head in the sand idiot that can read and doesn't go accusing people of leaving off quotes when it's so easy to prove I not only left the quote completely intact, but highlighted the said part of the quote by commenting on it. If I'm a head in the sand idiot at least I don't believe time goes BACKWARDS!

No conspiracy theories, merely simple demonstrations of when people come in here (not to troll, oh heavens no) sprouting bullsh*t. The shortage of facts is coming from one direction. Shortages of facts like when the various TV deals were in fact finalised.

You are living proof that it's better to stay silent and let people assume you're an idiot rather than speaking up and proving it beyond doubt. You should stop digging that hole mate - you're in deep enough as it is.
 

Digga Hole

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you mean left off the quote like here:



and I'm clearly the idiot. you can't even read you tool.
That is his post and not your quote you lying piece of crap.

Other rambling rubbish...

Read my follow up post.

In regards to the one network showing both codes. So rather than trying to grow both games, your great idea is to spilt the country in half, show it on one channel and you think this will increse TV rights.

Seriously, give up now.
 

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