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France U18s beat Australian AIS U18s

miguel de cervantes

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Vendredi, 25 Novembre 2011 22:46

Le XIII de France des moins de 18 ans, au terme d'un duel épique d'intensité, a battu son homologue de l'Australian Institut of Sports, à Plaisance du Touch, sur le score étroit de 35 à 32, après avoir atteint la pause en tête, 26-16. Voici trois ans sur ce même terrain de Haute-Garonne, les Australiens s'étaient imposés 37 à 12. Les moins de 18 ans ont ainsi effacé l'échec des moins de 19 ans tricolores, défaits 12-40 par les moins de 19 de l'AIS, deux jours plus tôt à Saint-Gaudens
site FFR XIII
http://www.ffr13.fr/index.php/component/content/article/128/1647


Two days earlier the same teams but U19s gave a 12-40 result to the Australian AIS.
 
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ParraEelsNRL

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Well done to the youngsters, it shows things over there are moving in the right direction. Lets just hope they stick with the game and not end up being poached by the Top14 teams.
 

VictoryFC

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On one level its good news. On another its not.

How were the teams put together though? Did any of the guys playing in the U19s back up in the U18s? Or were they both completely separate teams?
 

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On one level its good news. On another its not.

How were the teams put together though? Did any of the guys playing in the U19s back up in the U18s? Or were they both completely separate teams?

Completely separate teams, and the u/18 were 90% 17yo's.
 
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A number of the AIS players, maybe as much as half, would be signed to NRL clubs in one way or another. I know the two from around here are. SO what this suggests is that there are a number of French 17 or 18 year olds who could easily be part of an NRL structure. It would be good if the best kids from that side came into the under 20s for a couple of years. Even if they didn't stay with an NRL club after that and returned to SL or the French league they would have learned a lot, and not just better English. If the best half dozen 18 year olds came to an NRL club every year to join NYC squads there's bound to be at least a few who would make first grade down the track so it would benefit the clubs too.
 

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A number of the AIS players, maybe as much as half, would be signed to NRL clubs in one way or another. I know the two from around here are. SO what this suggests is that there are a number of French 17 or 18 year olds who could easily be part of an NRL structure. It would be good if the best kids from that side came into the under 20s for a couple of years. Even if they didn't stay with an NRL club after that and returned to SL or the French league they would have learned a lot, and not just better English. If the best half dozen 18 year olds came to an NRL club every year to join NYC squads there's bound to be at least a few who would make first grade down the track so it would benefit the clubs too.
This should be the case in both NRL and Super League for all developing nations.
 

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A number of the AIS players, maybe as much as half, would be signed to NRL clubs in one way or another. I know the two from around here are. SO what this suggests is that there are a number of French 17 or 18 year olds who could easily be part of an NRL structure. It would be good if the best kids from that side came into the under 20s for a couple of years. Even if they didn't stay with an NRL club after that and returned to SL or the French league they would have learned a lot, and not just better English. If the best half dozen 18 year olds came to an NRL club every year to join NYC squads there's bound to be at least a few who would make first grade down the track so it would benefit the clubs too.

I watched the France under 16's game v England again last night and i thought exactly about the above piece which is highlighted ECT.

The French lock forward Karim Madani was so good i reckon he could play Toyota Cup now, he has it all, size, skill and mobility.
 

miguel de cervantes

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The problem is you can't just take 17 and 18 year olds out of school, fly them to the other side of the world into a foreign culture on a dream of playing rugby league. Despite the lower level of the ESL they would be much better off participating in Europe and staying close to home. The ESL should aim for a Toyota cup of their own.

Also, steps should be taken to reduce the australasian rugby league center of gravity, not increase it! We can't afford for the NRL to become the be-all and end-all of rugby league.
 
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The reason England is so shit is because the junior system there is rubbish. Getting more English players in the NYC would help them immensely, never mind what it would do for French kids. No one is taking them out of school, just as Australian kids aren't taken out of school to play NYC. Although having said that, need I mention the only Frenchman to play NRL in the past generation did actually come here as a schoolboy and then went on to not only speak better English than most of the English team but captain France. If the poms tried to set up their own NYC you can imagine how badly they'd f**k it up. They can't run a decent first grade comp never mind a muti-tiered professional structure. French kids learning RL off them would be like getting Wayne Swan to teach people how to balance a budget.
 

miguel de cervantes

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I meant take them out of their French schools...

The RFL setting up a good youth comp is a more worthwhile solution then just throwing up the hands and saying "send them to Australia". The same goes for the ESL. In fact, setting up a good youth comp would probably do wonders for the ESL.
 
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What schools? Its an under 20s competition. They don't need to be taken from school. And England already has a junior competition and it's not doing the job for their own players. And their clubs are going broke or into administration all the time as it is.
 

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This is a just a suggestion, but why not, instead of spending millions of dollars increasing the NRL club grants to "stop losing players", we spend a little bit of money, setting up a French (and British) u 20s superleague, Televised in Australia (presented with the Toyota cup) featuring a combined finals series.

This would not only give the Europeans a proper junior coaching environment, but it would help them gain off season union players (if good enough), Allow their elite to be spotted, watched and poached by NRL and ESL clubs if they are interested enough, and it would build up the European sides an the Australian media which will only help the interenational game. And all with Zero effect (other than increasing the player pool) on the NRL (or ESL) game.
 
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A second french team is a must for the ESL. Rugby is dominant there like no other nation bar NZ. Their Top 14 is a very strong comp. If the French juniors show promise the RFL are obliged to develop them poperly if they wish to stop a jump to union.
 
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A second french team is a must for the ESL. Rugby is dominant there like no other nation bar NZ. Their Top 14 is a very strong comp. If the French juniors show promise the RFL are obliged to develop them poperly if they wish to stop a jump to union.
RU is not dominant in France, at all :?
 

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A second french team is a must for the ESL. Rugby is dominant there like no other nation bar NZ. Their Top 14 is a very strong comp. If the French juniors show promise the RFL are obliged to develop them poperly if they wish to stop a jump to union.
The RFL or FFR are obliged to develop French talent??
 
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